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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    One little tidbit we can surmise from this list, if Amazon MGM are the ones being pitched by directors then that would suggest that no work on a story-direction has truly happened yet in terms of hiring writers etc. That's already very different to how EON worked where it would be a closed group while they worked out the barebones of a story, and then a director was sought after that.

    I've been saying this all the time. The producers aren't going to write the script themselves.

    Most of these directors don't need to be told what movie to make.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited June 20 Posts: 5,446
    I suppose it depends on what they're pitching. Is it more a vision of a potential Bond film to be moulded to a story Amazon have in mind? Or is it what they think a Bond film should be? It might even be more a case of selling themselves, maybe even saying who they could attach to the project to write dependent on what they want. EON of course had Boyle and Hodge come in and outright pitch their own story, and then presumably asked them to incorporate things like Bond's death, him being retired etc. Maybe it's similar... I suspect in practice there'll always be an element of that, and ultimately it's the producers who are deciding who gets the job based on what they put forward.

    To be honest, I'd be hesitant about going the full 'auteur' route with every Bond film/having these big name directors essentially get full reign over a Bond film (if that's even what's happening, which again I don't think is quite the case). It sounds good in theory but it'll cause problems at some point if big names are simply anointed.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    One little tidbit we can surmise from this list, if Amazon MGM are the ones being pitched by directors then that would suggest that no work on a story-direction has truly happened yet in terms of hiring writers etc. That's already very different to how EON worked where it would be a closed group while they worked out the barebones of a story, and then a director was sought after that.

    I've been saying this all the time. The producers aren't going to write the script themselves.

    Most of these directors don't need to be told what movie to make.

    Deke, no one said producers would be writing the scripts. No one.

    As I said from the beginning, I found it hard that Cuarón was the one and only. Instead, if this news is to be believed (and unfortunately, Empire online has pulled this story only one hour after posting (https://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/denis-villeneuve-edgar-wright-and-edward-berger-among-directors-pitching-for-the-next-james-bond/?fbclid=IwY2xjawLCAidleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHqElzIx0yHg2vd8Y5G1h1W0zbKZkfYE94W8v8o2wcVpaor004z-LyBROWSEb_aem_TwMFHkRucJicYDjPqSdSlQ&sfnsn=scwspwa ), then the producers are doing exactly what producers do:

    They make a list of potentials.
    They invite them and listen to how each would re-invent James Bond. Which pitch is closest to the vision the producers have? Which of them pitched something they didn’t think of.

    This is what happens in early development.
    But, saying that guys, it’s concerning that Empire pulled their story this morning (someone has jumped the gun and this may all be based on nonsense).

    Keep an eye out for why this story is now being pulled…
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Credit where its due, peter was on the money about Cuaron.
    peter wrote: »

    Keep an eye out for why this story is now being pulled…

    How cryptic. @-)
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited June 20 Posts: 9,675
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Credit where its due, peter was on the money about Cuaron.
    peter wrote: »

    Keep an eye out for why this story is now being pulled…

    How cryptic. @-)

    The publication was told to kill the story; it’s telling that Empire published a story and yanked it inside of an hour. The facts weren’t all there, methinks. Perhaps as they dug a little deeper into puck’s story, there was no “there” there.

    If they were confident in the sources and in the story, it doesn’t get pulled (as it’s breaking news).

    Keep an eye on this story and see if it pops up again in Deadline and Variety and HR…
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    It's obviously Jeff putting out some the most discussed Director names and seeing what people online say about these potentials... maybe ;)
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Literally everyone is running with the shortlist story except for those outlets with repute. Seems like the rags have been ravenous for juicy Bond gossip in recent weeks and this Puck peice was just too tempting to pass up.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
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    It's a smart list if you're guessing or reading the forums, I don't blame a blog for doing it but I wish it was under the pretext of just a guess and not likely a lie.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited June 20 Posts: 2,691
    LucknFate wrote: »
    It's a smart list if you're guessing or reading the forums, I don't blame a blog for doing it but I wish it was under the pretext of just a guess and not likely a lie.

    True. I agree.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited June 20 Posts: 6,784
    I think these are just collected old rumors. Not to say some of them can't be true.

    I don't particularly like Nolan and especially do not like his scripts. He is best when he casts warm actors to interpret his rather pretentious and sexless material. Inception comes to mind--a great, sympathetic cast who really sells the (ridiculous) story.

    That being said, I think Bond 26 is Nolan's best shot to do a Bond. Without Barbara and Michael producing, he can bring his wife on as his producer.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,675
    echo wrote: »
    I think these are just collected old rumors. Not to say some of them can't be true.

    I don't particularly like Nolan and especially do not like his scripts. He is best when he casts warm actors to interpret his rather pretentious and sexless material. Inception comes to mind--a great, sympathetic cast who really sells the (ridiculous) story.

    That being said, I think Bond 26 is Nolan's best shot to do a Bond. Without Barbara and Michael producing, he can bring his wife on as his producer.

    @echo , I don’t think the list mentioned Chris, but mentioned his brother, who is an excellent writer (he and his wife), and as creative producers (as in the couple), they’re awesome. They have a firm grasp on visual storytelling and a strong grasp at entertaining their viewers (unlike a certain sibling who I think is far too intellectual to ever be a down and dirty entertaining director of films).

  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I'm not familiar with Jonathan's directing ability, but if Chris Nolan was given the gig of directing I'd hope his brother is a co writer.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Take this with a pinch of salt, but John Campea is claiming he has a source saying that Alfonso Cuaron hasn't ruled himself out of contention for Bond. Apparently he never got handed the gig, but he's still in the running with the other candidates.

    Source: the John Campea Show on YouTube.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    For Bond 26, I just need them to pick the best director for the job. I don't necessarily have a favorite.
  • HitchBondUSAHitchBondUSA USA
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/007-villeneuve-nolan-more-set-james-bond-director-meetings/ar-AA1H6NE2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=W046&cvid=7e7477169ddb42d1ad0fd79798880c31&ei=15
  • billqsbillqs Birmingham, AL
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    I already feel like there's been too long a break without Bond. But, I also know how important this next film has to be in order to show what they can do with Bond without Eon being in control. Several of the names for possible directors sound great. I just want it all to come together!
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 6:31am Posts: 9,062
    (Take with a pinch of salt) Jeff Sneider says he thinks its a 2 horse race between Berger and Johnathon Nolan. According to Sneider, Berger is actually preferred because he's not a writer, whereas Johnathon being a writer/director could mean the film takes longer to get off the ground.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    (Take with a pinch of salt) Jeff Sneider says he thinks its a 2 horse race between Berger and Johnathon Nolan. According to Sneider, Berger is actually preferred because he's not a writer, whereas Johnathon being a writer/director could mean the film takes longer to get off the ground.

    So it will take longer eventhough there hasn't been mention of any writers?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited 8:49am Posts: 9,062
    ArapahoeBondFan wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    (Take with a pinch of salt) Jeff Sneider says he thinks its a 2 horse race between Berger and Johnathon Nolan. According to Sneider, Berger is actually preferred because he's not a writer, whereas Johnathon being a writer/director could mean the film takes longer to get off the ground.

    So it will take longer eventhough there hasn't been mention of any writers?

    I think what he's getting at is you can easily replace or bring on new writers, but when the whole vision is from one "auteur" you're kinda beholden to them and their process.
  • buddyoldchapbuddyoldchap Formerly known as JeremyBondon
    edited 8:51am Posts: 328
    I'd really like for Wright to get the gig, out of that list. Perhaps team up with Jonathan script wise, best of both worlds. Wright is a very gifted filmmaker, he'd know how to make it a success, with his own twist. Hard pass on Villeneuve, selfindulgent bland meh.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    It's officially been 3 months since the Pascal/Heyman reign began.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    (Take with a pinch of salt) Jeff Sneider says he thinks its a 2 horse race between Berger and Johnathon Nolan. According to Sneider, Berger is actually preferred because he's not a writer, whereas Johnathon being a writer/director could mean the film takes longer to get off the ground.

    They can hire both, then :D
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    We all knew Bond 26 would be an important Bond film. But it's even more important now without EON, so I don't blame Amazon for going at it with absolute care. They have to pick the right director for this film.
  • SomethingThatAteHimSomethingThatAteHim
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    Jonathan Nolan has never directed a movie before, there’s no way they would choose him to helm a Bond film. Berger I could see.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Yeah, Berger I can see.

    But to be honest, until a director is confirmed, I’m not going to assume anything’s the full truth.
  • dewiparrydewiparry
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    I dont think you can build a Bond film around a director. You build around Bond, that's the ship the director steers.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I just worry that Berger would a repeat of Mendes and Fukunaga, reaching too hard to create something weighty and ending up overstuffed with ideas. If he's willing to let his hair down and have some fun, then I'm willing to give him a chance.

    It only took 2 years for him to Conclave after All Quiet, so at the very least we'd get Bond 26 in a speedy manner.
  • AgentM72AgentM72
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    We've seen whispers and rumors that writers have already secretly been hired, as well. I'm taking all of this latest speculation with a truckload of salt. Though I will say:
    • I'm not opposed to any names on that list.
    • Jonathan Nolan intrigues me the most because he's a ferociously good writer and seems very ready to take a leap into big-ticket directing.
    • If I could wave a wand and pick one of them, I'd still likely choose Denis. But with him plunging into Dune 3, another behemoth, I don't see how he's possible on any reasonable timeline.
    • I still have this sneaking suspicion they're going to try and make a Force Awakens Bond. Safe, familiar, an injection of classic 007 vibes to reinvigorate that dimension of the brand -- but very much with an emphasis on quality and delivering a film that's widely considered very good. When Lucasfilm needed to do that, they hired (arguably) the "safest" director with strong geek cred who was available at the time, JJ Abrams. Makes me wonder who on this list (or elsewhere) would be considered that for 007, if that is in fact the direction they go.

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 9,062
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    We've seen whispers and rumors that writers have already secretly been hired, as well. I'm taking all of this latest speculation with a truckload of salt. Though I will say:
    • I'm not opposed to any names on that list.
    • Jonathan Nolan intrigues me the most because he's a ferociously good writer and seems very ready to take a leap into big-ticket directing.
    • If I could wave a wand and pick one of them, I'd still likely choose Denis. But with him plunging into Dune 3, another behemoth, I don't see how he's possible on any reasonable timeline.
    • I still have this sneaking suspicion they're going to try and make a Force Awakens Bond. Safe, familiar, an injection of classic 007 vibes to reinvigorate that dimension of the brand -- but very much with an emphasis on quality and delivering a film that's widely considered very good. When Lucasfilm needed to do that, they hired (arguably) the "safest" director with strong geek cred who was available at the time, JJ Abrams. Makes me wonder who on this list (or elsewhere) would be considered that for 007, if that is in fact the direction they go.

    If Johnathon Nolan is available right now to begin work and he thinks he's ready to start directing a blockbuster, then that would be very convenient, and he already has a relationship with Amazon.
  • AgentM72AgentM72
    Posts: 862
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    AgentM72 wrote: »
    We've seen whispers and rumors that writers have already secretly been hired, as well. I'm taking all of this latest speculation with a truckload of salt. Though I will say:
    • I'm not opposed to any names on that list.
    • Jonathan Nolan intrigues me the most because he's a ferociously good writer and seems very ready to take a leap into big-ticket directing.
    • If I could wave a wand and pick one of them, I'd still likely choose Denis. But with him plunging into Dune 3, another behemoth, I don't see how he's possible on any reasonable timeline.
    • I still have this sneaking suspicion they're going to try and make a Force Awakens Bond. Safe, familiar, an injection of classic 007 vibes to reinvigorate that dimension of the brand -- but very much with an emphasis on quality and delivering a film that's widely considered very good. When Lucasfilm needed to do that, they hired (arguably) the "safest" director with strong geek cred who was available at the time, JJ Abrams. Makes me wonder who on this list (or elsewhere) would be considered that for 007, if that is in fact the direction they go.

    If Johnathon Nolan is available right now to begin work and he thinks he's ready to start directing a blockbuster, then that would be very convenient, and he already has a relationship with Amazon.

    Those stars do seem awfully well-aligned, don't they?
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