Big Mi6 James Bond henchperson ranking game - NUMBER 5

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  • Posts: 8,302
    I ranked her #6.
    I'm also an EON fan without much love for the other Bond movies. I prefer all EON Bond movies to NSNA but there are a few things I like (fight against Lippe, motorcycle chase, several stunning women) and there is one thing I love: Barbara Carrera is super hot in this movie (honestly, I don't know any other movies with her) and she is crazy. My english isn't good enough to describe it but @DarthDimi mentions almost everything :)

    She deserved a better movie! Without her, I would maybe never rewatch NSNA. But hey, nsna.

    I know her from the remake of 'The Island of Dr. Moreau', 'Condorman', 'Wild Geese 2' and 'I, the Jury', and some TV work, no classics certainly, but I've always liked her!
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    I googled Wild Geese 2: directed by Peter Hunt. Interesting.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I googled Wild Geese 2: directed by Peter Hunt. Interesting.

    The Wiki page says "Ingrid Pitt as Hooker". Consider me, uh, hooked.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I have the wonderful Fatima Blush in the same spot. Number 7.

    She's easily one of the best characters in the film (if not the best!). After her demise the film limps on, but never recovers.
    It's a shame Barbara Carrera couldn't have appeared in an EON Bond film. I believe she turned down a role in OP in favour of NSNA.
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    I googled Wild Geese 2: directed by Peter Hunt. Interesting.

    I wouldn't bother! Nothing like the excellent first one! This one has a very bored looking Scott Glen as a mercenary, hired to rescue Rudolf Hess from prison!!! Not even the delicious Ms Carrera can rescue it!
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Hench-hench people need some love.

    Adam from LALD. The moustachioed clowns from LTK. le Chiffre's bald accomplice.

    All menacing goons who keep us enthralled.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Hench-hench people need some love.

    Adam from LALD. The moustachioed clowns from LTK. le Chiffre's bald accomplice.

    All menacing goons who keep us enthralled.

    As a Kronsteen fan, I agree. But believe me, these games are already quite a challenge to organise with only one, or on occasion two, participant(s) per film.

    I might consider a secondary henchperson game at some point, providing there is enough interest in it ofc.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Hench-hench people need some love.

    Adam from LALD. The moustachioed clowns from LTK. le Chiffre's bald accomplice.

    All menacing goons who keep us enthralled.

    As a Kronsteen fan, I agree. But believe me, these games are already quite a challenge to organise with only one, or on occasion two, participant(s) per film.

    I might consider a secondary henchperson game at some point, providing there is enough interest in it ofc.

    Kronsteen's death is the greatest death of the series, and Vladek Sheybal nailed it.

    The plaintive 'but I'm Kronsteen' face he pulls just before the end is sheer talent, as is the initial shock.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Almost top 5 time, but first we'll have a look at our #6:

    MR. WINT & MR. KIDD
    by Bruce Glover and Putter Smith
    in Diamonds Are Forever

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    This baddie couple managed to obtain two bronze medals, three 4th places and one 5th place. Six other members ranked it in the lower half of the top 10.

    Only on three occasions they fell outside of the top, one of those being a respectable 11th place. Another one though turned out to be a bottom finish, making them the highest ranked henchpeople who ended up last in someone's ranking.

    Wint & Kidd collected a total of 104 points.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    I had the blazing duo at #7
    Along with Barry's wonderful soundtrack, they are easily the best thing about DAF
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    R1s1ngs0n wrote: »
    I had the blazing duo at #7
    Along with Barry's wonderful soundtrack, they are easily the best thing about DAF

    Hard to disagree with that.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    I have these two a bit higher. My No. 6 was Irma Bunt, but she "only" made #12 in this ranking. Anyway, rearrange most of the top 10 as you like, it's mostly a marginal difference.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Great duo, love their banter and sly theme cue whenever they're about to appear. They look like they're really enjoying Shady Tree's act as well. RIP Bruce Glover.

    The yellow moon buggy above reminds of the multicoloured Corgi toy.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    MR. WINT & MR. KIDD are one of the highlights of DAF. It doesn't make DAF a good Bond film (IMO), but their presence is most welcomed.

    On a related note, every time 1955's noir classic THE BIG COMBO is broadcast, I always note that Fante (Lee Van Cleef) and Mingo (Earl Holliman) remind me of Wint and Kidd - making allowances for the production code at the time. The "gay" theme is hinted at in the 1955 film but very watered down.

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I had the illustrious duo at #9.
    Kidd and Wint show little physical menace to Bond, which makes them even more exciting in my opinion. They work in the shadows, in a cunning and surprising manner. Though essentially meant as comedic, there's something wickedly menacing about them. Both actors are also delightful in their performances.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    DarthDimi wrote: »
    I had the illustrious duo at #9.
    Kidd and Wint show little physical menace to Bond, which makes them even more exciting in my opinion. They work in the shadows, in a cunning and surprising manner. Though essentially meant as comedic, there's something wickedly menacing about them. Both actors are also delightful in their performances.

    Agreed 100%. They came in 11th for me, the honourable mention spot, as I like to call it.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’m almost ashamed to say I put them in 20th spot.
    On reflection I may have been too harsh on the menacing duo. I think my ranking is based on there overall threat on Bond by the pair.
    When introduced with the killing of the dentist, the helicopter pilot and Mrs Whistler, were shown two sadistic killers who pose a threat. However when it comes to attempting to kill Bond, there only successful attempt comes at the funeral parlour.
    Shoving Bond in a pipeline that has the most efficient construction crew in history, to perform the work they did in a day is weak.
    The fact that Blofeld doesn’t punish them with death, is a far cry from the Blofeld of old. New Blofeld tolerates failure!
    Also there lack of screen time after the failed pipeline fiasco is a bit odd. Despite their failure to kill Bond, they are probably the most exciting and enjoyable characters in the film.
    They do however have interesting deaths in a pretty exciting climax to a very odd James Bond adventure.
    Slightly higher than 20th…maybe. But middle of the road at best for me.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
    edited June 6 Posts: 4,434
    Benny wrote: »
    The fact that Blofeld doesn’t punish them with death, is a far cry from the Blofeld of old. New Blofeld tolerates failure!

    Well, Bambi and Thumper might have been hired as their replacement, but after Bond did away with them with ease, the odd couple might have been given a last chance by Blofeld - which they blew.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
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    Wint & Kidd got my bronze medal. Maybe it is a bit too generous because it is easier to stand out in a movie I don't like too much. As in NSNA, the hench(wo)men are also in DAF the best thing for me. Yes, the idea with putting Bond in a tube for the pipeline isn't smart but they are always fun and threatening in a wierd way which I absolutely love. How they comment the scenery after a killing is great, imo. And I also love the final confrontation helping to pull out the movie out of boredom after the oil rig part.

    Interesting point from @Benny that it is weird that Blofeld didn't punish them. I never thought about that. But how could I: I don't try to think too much when watching DAF.
  • Posts: 8,302
    I had Wint and Kidd at this exact placing. Two of the saving graces of DAF, they are a combination of goofiness and threat, and the film comes alive whenever they are on screen! I'm not in favour of spin offs, but these two would be great in their own 'Fargo' style t.v. series!
  • Posts: 5,419
    Wint & Kidd got my bronze medal. Maybe it is a bit too generous because it is easier to stand out in a movie I don't like too much. As in NSNA, the hench(wo)men are also in DAF the best thing for me. Yes, the idea with putting Bond in a tube for the pipeline isn't smart but they are always fun and threatening in a wierd way which I absolutely love. How they comment the scenery after a killing is great, imo. And I also love the final confrontation helping to pull out the movie out of boredom after the oil rig part.

    Interesting point from @Benny that it is weird that Blofeld didn't punish them. I never thought about that. But how could I: I don't try to think too much when watching DAF.

    I'd like to think it's the fact that Wint and Kidd admitted they failed that let them off with Blofeld ('If at first you don't succeed... try and try again' etc). Usually when Blofeld kills his operatives it's when they pass the buck in terms of their mistakes or are actively scheming behind his back. Wint and Kidd are clearly quite loyal employees too. They even returned to try and finish the job when their boss had died.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    Entering our top 5, well, with our #5:

    TEE HEE
    by Julius W. Harris
    in Live and Let Die

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    LALD entered the competition with two candidates, but unlike colleagues FYEO and DAD, both entries ended up high on the list.

    The highest of the two, steel-clawed and with an infectious laugh, Tee Hee, managed to obtain one gold medal, one bronze medal, one 4th and two 5th places.

    LALD is therefore the only film that acquired two gold medals by different characters, the other one being Baron Samedi.

    Additionally, Tee Hee also ended up in the lower top 10 spots on four occasions, and on five instances it finished between 11th and 15th.

    Just one member ranked him lower than the top 15, also his lowest score, a still respectable 17th place. There's only one participant who has a higher lowest ranking.

    In total Tee Hee collected 106 points.
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    Butterhook gets the bronze medal from me.
    I love absolutely everything about this character: the menace, the attitude, the humor, the dress style.
    His exchange with Bond at the crocodile farm is one of the greatest in the whole series and the fight aboard the train is also great. Terrific performance from the charismatic Harris.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    I had Tee Hee on #12, but that does not mean I do not highly enjoy this character. LALD consciously tapped into the success of the Blaxploitation genre of the early 70s. Only because Bond and Solitaire are "white" main characters, LALD is not really typical for the genre.
    Tee Hee, just like Baron Samedi, seems to enjoy his henchman job a lot and the criminal actions they are doing appear to be balanced by their good-humored nature.
    My reading of how these characters were set up is that the stereotype of a criminal black person like Kananga (the essence of the Blaxploitation genre) had to be counter-balanced by making his goons humorous and therefore basically good-natured persons.
    I love Tee Hee's big smile and charming coolness. He participated in several films of the Blaxploitation genre and actually must have come straight from the set of "Superfly" (with the ultra-sweet Curtis Mayfield soundtrack) before joining the cast of LALD.

    Here is a tribute:
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I had Tee Hee at number 10. He's good, but the final conflict with Bond is a bit weak, hence the loss of a few points.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    Love Tee Hee - great henchman and sort of a proto-Jaws with the tall stature, appearance on the train later and wrestling with apex predators. Gets more dialogue with Bond than the typical heavy and looks immaculate in that red jacket. Did you know Tee Hee *Johnson* is related to Jinx? He's not, but in a perfect world he would be serving drinks at the Fillet of Soul, smile on face and martini in pincer.

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  • Posts: 8,302
    I have Mr Johnson at number 4! Love the character, cool and smooth, with that air of menace about him! Even though you can see him awkwardly holding that hook with his real hand, he is still a charismatic henchman! I like their final fight on the train, nice use of props! And he has a great commanding voice ".....and I MEAN tonight!"
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    Where does that supposed last name "Johnson" come from? Have I been missing it being mentioned for the last 51 years? Anyway, I had him at # 14, still good.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited June 17 Posts: 7,588
    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Where does that supposed last name "Johnson" come from? Have I been missing it being mentioned for the last 51 years? Anyway, I had him at # 14, still good.

    It's mentioned in the novel, if I remember correctly. Not in the film though.

    I also had a spot in my top 10 for Tee Hee, 9th to be precise. Hilarious and memorable, all in all a great henchman if you ask me.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,290
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    It's mentioned in the novel, if I remember correctly. Not in the film though.
    You're right, I should have just checked it before. He is mentioned twice as Tee-Hee Johnson. First in Chapter 5, whose title has certainly been changed in the latest editions.
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