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EoN sells up - Amazon MGM to produce 007 going forwards (Heyman and Pascal confirmed as producers)

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    delfloria wrote: »
    Eyes are on the new Superman's success, not on The Batman at this moment. Hope and lightness vs dark and somber and serious.

    Bingo.

    And look at Fantastic Four, Spaceballs 2, Masters of the Universe, The Naked Gun - hope is winning.
  • TroyTroy
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    delfloria wrote: »
    Eyes are on the new Superman's success, not on The Batman at this moment. Hope and lightness vs dark and somber and serious.

    As a pure consumer / viewer, whose eyes are so focussed on this? Many posts are deeply concerned with Box Office figures - will it break $billion? I understand that high earnings influence future spend, but considering that many posters on this forum prefer lower budgets to drive greater creativity, are high earnings and comparisons between Superman and The Batman important?

    I ask, not to be controversial, but because I’m generally interested
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I’d say The Batman’s a very hopeful film, albeit one with a darker tone. I think a Bond film will come off differently to that film and Superman no matter what (and yes, it’ll have a good dash of fun and escapism and try to convey that in the marketing/trailers even if it has a ‘maturity’ to it). I don’t think it’s any indication about what kind of Bond film we’ll get.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    007ClassicBondFan wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    I'm not going to argue this further

    “I’m not going to argue this further” = “I can’t support the argument I was trying to make so I’m done trying.”

    No, I've already talked a lot about GE. You know my opinion. I don't want to sound like a broken record.

    That's all.

    Well we all know that you find the film generic and nothing else because that’s all you really say whenever you post about the film so it’s a bit late to stop yourself from sounding like a broken record but I digress.

    Come on, man, I don't want another discussion about GE. I've fought in that war many times.

    It’s a war you’ll keep losing ;)

    C'mon, guys, there's room for both lace and leather.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Superman has always been the Boy Scout in the skies.He needs to be an optimistic and hopeful character (part of the criticism that came out of the Snyder interpretation was Superman shouldn’t be so glum and dour)

    James Bond has wayyyy more grey to the character. And will have much more nuance. After all, when you have a license to kill, you’re in the death business, so…

    And I’d hold onto pointing out the Fantastic 4 and He-Man as examples of “Hope is winning (and the other two examples are legacy comedy sequels that no one really asked for, but; they’re comedies, @Mendes4Lyfe — of course they’re going to be on the lighter side by nature of the genre, lol).

    Once B26 starts boarding talent (writers, director, and the actor), we will have at least a glimpse of the direction they’ll be going in. If I was to bet, and this means zero, Amazon won’t try and break too much new ground. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a small list of “what makes a Bond film a successful worldwide phenomenon; that makes the brand instantly recognizable “, and they’ll creatively try and stick inside of these lines and deliver this to the marketplace — at least for the first film or two.
  • M_BlaiseM_Blaise
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    Eyes are on the new Superman's success, not on The Batman at this moment. Hope and lightness vs dark and somber and serious.

    Bingo.

    And look at Fantastic Four, Spaceballs 2, Masters of the Universe, The Naked Gun - hope is winning.

    None of those have been released though.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.
  • CrabKeyCrabKey
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    And yet they are Bond films because they contain the elements that make Bond films recognizable and unique. Our familiarity with the gun barrel sequence, the Bond theme, "Bond, James Bond," etc. are what provide the comfort.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.

    Dr. No is the Bond film. ;)

    Yes, there are many types of Bond movies, but if you ask me, I know what to answer. I hope Amazon has a good answer, too.
  • TroyTroy
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    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.

    A Bond film is a film that features the character James Bond in the employ of special operations arm of British intelligence (akin to SOE) defeating a larger-than-life villain threatening the Western world
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    I'm sure they'll follow the trends because the film has to feel modern. But I don't think it matters too much. The issue is how much of Fleming remains.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Troy wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.

    A Bond film is a film that features the character James Bond in the employ of special operations arm of British intelligence (akin to SOE) defeating a larger-than-life villain threatening the Western world

    I’ve seen those! :D
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
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    Troy wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.

    A Bond film is a film that features the character James Bond in the employ of special operations arm of British intelligence (akin to SOE) defeating a larger-than-life villain threatening the Western world

    ...common places to see a Bond film are at local cinemas, although sightings are sadly becoming much rarer.
  • delfloriadelfloria
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    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Troy wrote: »
    delfloria wrote: »
    CrabKey wrote: »
    The mentions of other nonBond films always puts me off. I have no interest in what Batman, Superman, and all the rest are doing. I don't want a Bond film that reminds me of some other blockbuster or picks up on a technique or trend that is fashionable. For me Bond has always been unique and I hope the films remain so. I don't need a one up of Mission Impossible or similar action films. Even with new faces in front of and behind the camera, once the lights fade in the theater and the film begins, I want it to be like it always is, the familiar comfort of a Bond film.

    But what is a Bond film? The differences between Moonraker and Dr. No are astronomical.

    A Bond film is a film that features the character James Bond in the employ of special operations arm of British intelligence (akin to SOE) defeating a larger-than-life villain threatening the Western world

    ...common places to see a Bond film are at local cinemas, although sightings are sadly becoming much rarer.

    True, but in LA we are getting a major showing of a Bond film every other month and socializing at the local pub with other Bond fans after each showing.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Do you think we'll ever get Laz, Broz, Tim or Dan participating in Bond related marketing or interviews again now that it's a part of the Amazon machine? I think Daniel is probably done, unless they pay a massive amount during the promotion tour of Bond 26 for some support, similar to when James Cameron released a video promoting Terminator Genysis saying how much he enjoyed it. Amazon have deep pockets.
  • ImpertinentGoonImpertinentGoon Everybody needs a hobby.
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Do you think we'll ever get Laz, Broz, Tim or Dan participating in Bond related marketing or interviews again now that it's a part of the Amazon machine? I think Daniel is probably done, unless they pay a massive amount during the promotion tour of Bond 26 for some support, similar to when James Cameron released a video promoting Terminator Genysis saying how much he enjoyed it. Amazon have deep pockets.

    Eh, it’s all business. He’ll probably have some project connected to Amazon at some point and they’ll use that to nudge him towards appearing in something promotional. Probably not as flat as just doing a straight piece to camera, but some events or something. Plus, with Bond there’s always the workaround of having them as ‚brand ambassadors‘ for one of the major product partners. A Bond actor in an ad for a vodka or a car or a phone in the run up to a film even if the ad isn’t explicitly connected to the films and they aren’t in that film still kind of works as marketing.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I can’t find a general Bond news thread, so this’ll do. 30 years late, the real MI6 has appointed its first female boss, although she’ll be C rather than M. This report does say she used to be director of Q though, the tech and innovation division(!)
    MI6 appoints first female chief in 116-year history
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