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  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Benny wrote: »
    I would argue that, “Double sixes. Fancy that!” was effortlessly cool. The way he keeps his eyes trained on Kamal was perfect.

    Great example! Moore and Jourdan are outstanding in the scene.

    Moore is also the epitome of cool when he has Locque at his mercy. The way Moore delivers the line then tosses the pin into the car is cooler than cool!
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I was told that this sideboard is featured in a '60s or '70s Bond film. Other sources say it's merely inspired by one that is featured in a '60s or '70s Bond film. Either way, my memory can't seem to point me in the direction of such a Bond film. Can anyone help me?
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Is the band in AVTAK at the wedding on the boat playing a version of the theme tune?

    Is Octopussys army of Women working in partnership with Bond and Q arriving on the hot air balloon or is it just a coincidence?

    Why does Kamal the villain more or less accept his death instead of trying steer out similar to Brosnan at the start of Goldeneye?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Is the band in AVTAK at the wedding on the boat playing a version of the theme tune?

    Is Octopussys army of Women working in partnership with Bond and Q arriving on the hot air balloon or is it just a coincidence?

    Why does Kamal the villain more or less accept his death instead of trying steer out similar to Brosnan at the start of Goldeneye?

    Great questions, yes I believe that is correct about the band playing the theme song, or I always took that as implied. Too bad the lads of Duran Duran couldn't rock the stage. LOL!

    Bond arriving was coincidence as Octopussy left Bond at the circus and didn't share her plans.

    My read was Kamal panics and throws his hands up instead of the control stick. Also not sure how skilled a pilot Kamal was and that might factor in as well.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Well he wants to screw up Sanchez's organisation, if he doesn't have the coke then he's lost all that money for nothing. Plus Bond is vaguely moral, I'm sure he's not keen on drugs being sold!

    Both TLD and LTK were released at the time of President Reagan's War on Drugs and both films had drug related plots. Hard drugs get destroyed on a large scale in both films too. As you say, Bond is a moral sort of chap (after a fashion) and even in Fleming's work the dangers of heroin were referred to in 'Risico' as like a giant hypodermic plunged into the heart of England.

    Bingo. This is definitely it.

    Also, did Bond inhale all that cocaine from the water while he was destroying it?
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Well he wants to screw up Sanchez's organisation, if he doesn't have the coke then he's lost all that money for nothing. Plus Bond is vaguely moral, I'm sure he's not keen on drugs being sold!

    Both TLD and LTK were released at the time of President Reagan's War on Drugs and both films had drug related plots. Hard drugs get destroyed on a large scale in both films too. As you say, Bond is a moral sort of chap (after a fashion) and even in Fleming's work the dangers of heroin were referred to in 'Risico' as like a giant hypodermic plunged into the heart of England.

    LTK refers to Sanchez' law 'north of the border'. It's much more nuanced and instructed than simple Reaganism.

    Bond surely isn't the class a type. Just good ol' booze in his veins, the massive hypocrite.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Well he wants to screw up Sanchez's organisation, if he doesn't have the coke then he's lost all that money for nothing. Plus Bond is vaguely moral, I'm sure he's not keen on drugs being sold!

    Both TLD and LTK were released at the time of President Reagan's War on Drugs and both films had drug related plots. Hard drugs get destroyed on a large scale in both films too. As you say, Bond is a moral sort of chap (after a fashion) and even in Fleming's work the dangers of heroin were referred to in 'Risico' as like a giant hypodermic plunged into the heart of England.

    LTK refers to Sanchez' law 'north of the border'. It's much more nuanced and instructed than simple Reaganism.

    Bond surely isn't the class a type. Just good ol' booze in his veins, the massive hypocrite.

    Well, yes, that was merely the real world context behind the film. Not all Bond films take notice of current trends or issues though. Some are just pure fantasy.

    And as well as booze and fags Bond did also take benzedrine from time to time which is known as speed nowadays.
  • edited May 24 Posts: 2,289
    In The Living Daylights….

    Koskov reacts surprised when Kara calls him… however

    Before that, Necros is in Vienna and kills Saunders, but he does see Bond and Kara. Would he not report this back to Koskov?

    Also, how does Necros know Bond and Co are in Vienna?
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I'm guessing the Czech police and the army that is involved in chasing Bond and Kara might have either made news or been something that was shared with the Russians. I would imagine that would have tipped Necros or Koskov off as to their location.

    Koskov didn't know how Bond was playing it with Kara and had to believe that he wouldn't expect her to call him. Hence was surprised by the call from her.
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    Koskov assumes Bond killed her during his defection. He does ask Bond about it who says he rather wouldnt talk about it.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Yes I always took his surprise to be not that she was alive but that she was calling him when he knew she was with Bond.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Is the OHMSS theme becoming an unofficial MI6 theme in the films? It doesn't seem to just refer to that one film anymore with how it's used in marketing. Imagine if the TLD or OP theme randomly appeared in a trailer, it would seem a bit weird wouldn't it?
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Mallory wrote: »
    In The Living Daylights….

    Koskov reacts surprised when Kara calls him… however

    Before that, Necros is in Vienna and kills Saunders, but he does see Bond and Kara. Would he not report this back to Koskov?

    Also, how does Necros know Bond and Co are in Vienna?

    I think Koskov isn't arsed about Kara, and neither is Necros.

    A bigger question is why he doesn't have Bond and Kara clipped in or even before Afghanistan.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Is the OHMSS theme becoming an unofficial MI6 theme in the films? It doesn't seem to just refer to that one film anymore with how it's used in marketing. Imagine if the TLD or OP theme randomly appeared in a trailer, it would seem a bit weird wouldn't it?

    It's the go-to theme for IMPORTANCE.

    If it's in use, you know the producers/manufacturers/whatever know their shit and this or that product is ESSENTIAL.

    Octopussy has a brilliant score, also, save for the theme which at least makes great incidential music.

    It'd make a brilliant game. Better than the Craig-lite game they're going with.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Should Ben Whishaw return as Q?
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    Should Ben Whishaw return as Q?

    I don't know if he should, but like Ralph Fiennes for M, I think he will: he's now pretty famous, thanks in parts to Paddington, he's young enough to play the role for a few years still and he's already in it. It will just be simpler and easier to have these roles already filled. But hey it's Amazon, so who knows.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    @AnotherZorinStooge you need to use the edit function.
    The cog wheel will appear on the right side of your post if you move your cursor near it.
    Please stop with the multi posting
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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Is the OHMSS theme becoming an unofficial MI6 theme in the films? It doesn't seem to just refer to that one film anymore with how it's used in marketing. Imagine if the TLD or OP theme randomly appeared in a trailer, it would seem a bit weird wouldn't it?

    I'd be quite happy if the game used He's Dangerous from AVTAK. It's an ersatz OHMSS anyway and works as a kind of general Bond action theme. I prefer it as such to 007 anyway.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Should Ben Whishaw return as Q?

    No, and the role should be greatly reduced, too.
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    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.

    My great frustration with Koskov and TLD in general. He was not menacing enough, but he could so easily have been. They wasted a great actor.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 6 Posts: 3,951
    Is the OHMSS theme becoming an unofficial MI6 theme in the films? It doesn't seem to just refer to that one film anymore with how it's used in marketing. Imagine if the TLD or OP theme randomly appeared in a trailer, it would seem a bit weird wouldn't it?

    Only in NTTD, I think because that film was (heavily) inspired by OHMSS, so it makes sense, but probably we wouldn't likely to hear it again in the tenure of the next Bond, especially with Amazon handling the production, they would try to make it different from the EON Bonds, so no homage.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.

    My great frustration with Koskov and TLD in general. He was not menacing enough, but he could so easily have been. They wasted a great actor.

    Reminds me of Javier Bardem's Silva, though he at least got a cool monologue.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Is the OHMSS theme becoming an unofficial MI6 theme in the films? It doesn't seem to just refer to that one film anymore with how it's used in marketing. Imagine if the TLD or OP theme randomly appeared in a trailer, it would seem a bit weird wouldn't it?

    Great question. I would love to see someone do something with the 007 theme from FRWL, TB, MR. But it does seem that OHMSS is becoming a de facto theme. I think since it was most recently used in NTTD I think it was used as a recent call back. Hardcore fans like it because of the original. I liked Calvin's thought that this is being over-used and he would have preferred a big bombastic James Bond theme. Methinks they might be doing a CR and not having that theme appear till the end of the game?

  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.

    My great frustration with Koskov and TLD in general. He was not menacing enough, but he could so easily have been. They wasted a great actor.

    Agreed. Koskov was a wet napkin, unfortunately. The protagonists as a duo bring down the excellent TLD by a few points for me, due to no external threat. There was a mystery woven very well (what was Koskov up to? What was his relationship with Brad Whittaker…)…and Dalton-Bond does a fantastic job leading with his instincts, but, yeah, two of the weakest villains in the series.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    peter wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.

    My great frustration with Koskov and TLD in general. He was not menacing enough, but he could so easily have been. They wasted a great actor.

    Agreed. Koskov was a wet napkin, unfortunately. The protagonists as a duo bring down the excellent TLD by a few points for me, due to no external threat. There was a mystery woven very well (what was Koskov up to? What was his relationship with Brad Whittaker…)…and Dalton-Bond does a fantastic job leading with his instincts, but, yeah, two of the weakest villains in the series.

    I like Whittaker, but he shouldn't be the final battle. JDB, bless him, did a brilliant job and the scene with Pushkin is a series highlight.

    But, I agree, TLD'a villains just don't convey enough menace.
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    Except for Necros, of course.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    I think the problem of TLD is the same problem as with most of the Bond films with dual villains (OP, QoS, TWINE, and to the lesser extent, NTTD).

    Especially this:
    peter wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Koskov is scheming and brutal, he didn't care what happened to Kara. I only wish they had elaborated on that further, and had him betraying and killing Whittaker and the fight at end being between Koskov and Bond.

    Koskov being more dangerous than one'd think would be great. He's a good villain (brilliant actor) but veers dangerously close to comedy by the end.

    Yeah, agreed it really feels like a missed opportunity not to see the over-jovial giddiness masking some Waltz-style deeper menace. I think people are correct that TLD has weak villains, but it's not enough to spoil the movie for me. They're at least functional.

    My great frustration with Koskov and TLD in general. He was not menacing enough, but he could so easily have been. They wasted a great actor.

    Agreed. Koskov was a wet napkin, unfortunately. The protagonists as a duo bring down the excellent TLD by a few points for me, due to no external threat. There was a mystery woven very well (what was Koskov up to? What was his relationship with Brad Whittaker…)…and Dalton-Bond does a fantastic job leading with his instincts, but, yeah, two of the weakest villains in the series.

    I like Whittaker, but he shouldn't be the final battle. JDB, bless him, did a brilliant job and the scene with Pushkin is a series highlight.

    But, I agree, TLD'a villains just don't convey enough menace.

    But really, in all seriously, writing a strong villain is really difficult and hard if they're two because of the tendency to split the scenes and their way of executing their plans, just my observation.

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