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Would you rather watch TLD (71%) OR FYEO (69%)? Rotten Tomato Ranking battles!

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  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,617
    YOLT
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,716
    YOLT.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 327
    LTK
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,812
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,812
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,596
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited May 20 Posts: 5,249
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    Oh, it's definitely interesting seeing how RT scores fare against a small portion of people on a fan site. I like thinking about why a 'majority' will have a lesser or better opinion of a film in comparison to me. Makes you reflect on the film, which is cool. Thanks as always for these!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited May 20 Posts: 7,502
    thedove wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.

    That's what I thought too, but then NSNA scores 71% and TLD 73%, the former isn't certified but the latter is.... You won't hear me complain since I adore TLD, I just can't figure out their criteria :p

    Anyway, I am quite enjoying this @thedove. Thanks for organising :)
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,536
    peter wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆

    I definitely see where you’re coming from @peter. All of that stuff in YOLT is superb - and I’m hard pressed to think of a climax that rivals the Volcano Lair Assault at the end of the film.

    For me, it comes down to the Bond actors for this battle - and while Classic Connery is in a league of his own, Dalton’s portrayal in LTK has grown to be one of my favorites on screen and I see it only going up as time goes by for me. In fact I walked away from both TLD and LTK this last time feeling as if Brosnan may have some serious competition for my favorite Bond.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 327
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    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    The match-ups work on their own.
    peter wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆

    Aye, LTK has all the characterisation and plot, whilst YOLT is little nellie and a volcano.

    LTK gets the nod as, despite its insistence of edge, it never stops daring to be fun.

    YOLT drags at times, but packs a punch alright.

  • echoecho 007 in New York
    edited May 20 Posts: 6,716
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.

    That's what I thought too, but then NSNA scores 71% and TLD 73%, the former isn't certified but the latter is.... You won't hear me complain since I adore TLD, I just can't figure out their criteria :p

    Anyway, I am quite enjoying this @thedove. Thanks for organising :)

    Seconded. I appreciate all the thought you put into this thread.

    Also, I have to give YOLT the edge on its score alone. Barry at his peak.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 327
    echo wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.

    That's what I thought too, but then NSNA scores 71% and TLD 73%, the former isn't certified but the latter is.... You won't hear me complain since I adore TLD, I just can't figure out their criteria :p

    Anyway, I am quite enjoying this @thedove. Thanks for organising :)

    Seconded. I appreciate all the thought you put into this thread.

    Also, I have to give YOLT the edge on its score alone. Barry at his peak.

    Good shout.

  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,668
    Not a fan of either TBH, for very different reasons. I have to say YOLT because I used to really like it and for the iconic stuff in it.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,812
    Good stuff with both films getting some love. I am a sucker for YOLT and I think its the grandness of the film. It pushes the limits but yet it seems to work. I only wish we had a more menacing Blofeld than what we got.

    Time for our next battle. We are sticking with the official films for now and so our next would you rather is...

    Would you rather watch TLD (71%) OR FYEO (69%)

    We have Dalton's debut. The final John Barry score for a Bond film. We have Bond romancing one woman and having a more serious or grounded tone, though some lighter moments come in.

    Rotten Tomatoes says Newcomer Timothy Dalton plays James Bond with more seriousness than preceding installments, and the result is exciting and colorful but occasionally humorless.

    OR

    Roger Moore getting serious! A grounded follow up to MR finds Moore playing straighter. We have some wonderful casting here with Topol being a stand out. The singer appears in the Title Sequence of the film. Bill Conti delivers an energetic score, though it is now dated.

    Rotten Tomatoes says For Your Eyes Only trades in some of the outlandish Bond staples for a more sober outing, and the result is a satisfying adventure, albeit without some of the bombastic thrills fans may be looking for.

    So which one is going on your screen?
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,583
    TLD.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 327
    Those rotten tomato grades are disturbing. Seriously poor.

    Can't decide which is better. Might rewatch both!

  • FoxRoxFoxRox
    Posts: 12,680
    FYEO
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 7,502
    TLD, although FYEO is very enjoyable as well. In my book, only LTK or OHMSS might win from TLD, so it's not a choice to discredit FYEO by any means.
  • Mathis1Mathis1
    Posts: 8,173
    TLD of course,
    but again agree with @GoldenGun FYEO is a very good Bond movie!
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    Posts: 2,233
    TLD
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    Posts: 1,978
    TLD. It's a little slow when they get to Afghanistan, but it's a minor flaw.

    Both of Dalton's films are above average. If things didn't work out so well, it wasn't for lack of trying.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited 8:49am Posts: 5,249
    Neither are my favourite of the series, but I prefer TLD (although it’s a Bond film that’s always sat outside my top ten).
  • LudovicoLudovico
    Posts: 15,668
    I'll go for FYEO. Moore is far more comfortable as an ageing Bond than Dalton was as well, Bond, and the villain is better. FYEO is more of a classic spy film as well.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,076
    TLD, a top 5 for me, while FYEO, the first one I saw sits around 10th-11th spot, falling in line with average fan rankings. Both very good Bond films. Right now I feel like watching them back-to-back.

    As for the RT rankings:

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  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,716
    TLD for me too.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
    Posts: 16,499
    TLD
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited 1:22pm Posts: 2,583
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    TLD. It's a little slow when they get to Afghanistan, but it's a minor flaw.

    Both of Dalton's films are above average. If things didn't work out so well, it wasn't for lack of trying.

    I love the Afghanistan bit. I really do. John Barry also gives the Afghan scenes a nice middle-eastern flavor, but still makes the music Bondian. Dalton Bond planting the bomb and constantly evading Necros, is also very suspenseful at first watch. Bond & Kara's love also peaks in Afghanistan.
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,617
    FYEO
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
    Posts: 9,245
    FYEO was long my favourite Moore film. I'm not so sure any more and tend to prefer MR and even LALD. It has its shortcomings (as has been discussed endlessly), but I still like it. However, TLD is the closest the Bond movies have ever come to be a grand adventure film, and I mean that in the sense of Alfred Hitchcock meeting David Lean and Carol Reed. There is silly stuff in there (the car chase on ice, the cello ride), but overall it works nicely even in the "serious" department. Not a fan of the a-Ha theme, but the Barry score is one of his best, at least for the franchise. So TLD it is for me.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 2,583
    Yeah. TLD does have that epic scope to it. I can see the Hitchcock, Lean & Reed influence.
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