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Are there any bikinis in Skyfall?
SF, my least favourite of them all.
So for me an easy choice for TB.
Good point.
I'd do TB too, although it would depend of my mood and the time of year. TB is my go-to summer Bond, SF is more for #Noirvember.
Skyfall is great though. A good Bond for the times, and Silva's the best CraigBond villain. But it's not as sleek, sexy, iconic and decadent as Thunderball. Skyfall is a great Bond flick from the modern era, but Thunderball is a classic Bond flick from the golden era. Those first four Connery Bonds are almost beyond reproach.
And that’s why I also love the Craig Era. It was as confident in itself as the 60s Golden Era was. But the 60s was so close to the decade Fleming was writing that these films were otherworldly. Love ‘em so much.
I like TB in bits and pieces, fits and starts, but it's kind of a mess overall. And the cast is not great; Celi and Auger are definitely sub-par amid the other '60s actors.
Time for our next match up and this one is interesting to say the least.
Would you watch NTTD (83%) or TSWLM (82%)?
We have the final Bond film produced by EON with Craig ending his tenure permanently with the death of Bond. Echoes of literary YOLT, the film ties up the loose ends of the Craig era. Bond is a Dad for the first time.
Rotten Tomatoes says It isn't the sleekest or most daring 007 adventure, but No Time to Die concludes Daniel Craig's franchise tenure in satisfying style.
OR
Roger Moore hitting his stride and playing to his strengths in this third film of Moore as Bond. We have Bond and Beyond, and who doesn't love some disco Bond77?
Rotten Tomatoes says Although it hints at the absurdity to come in later installments, The Spy Who Loved Me's sleek style, menacing villains, and sly wit make it the best of the Roger Moore era.
Which one are you watching on your screen?
It's like asking 'would you rather have a slap or a hug?'.
Yes. While I like NTTD, TSWLM is just a far more iconic and fun feature for me. I imagine while diehard Bond fans would largely side with TSWLM, casual moviegoers would be much more split.
Would rather watch it than any of the Craigs ever again.
Definitely.
I can see why NTTD has a relatively high score on Rotten. As much as I dislike it as a James Bond movie, I can also see it's not a bad action/romance film. It's technically a much better movie than QoS, which was a bit all over the place. But putting it up against The Spy Who Loved Me in the world of James Bond movie fans . . . well. It's a 'no-brainer', as they say.
No excuse.
TSWLM.
I don't necessarily agree with all that, but it does show TSWLM isn't going to be viewed as a perfect film by everyone who watches it (even I'd agree that Stromberg is a weak villain, and I'm sure if the film were done today Anya's character would be different and arguably a bit more interesting. Some of the disco music is a bit dated too, for sure). It also shows that NTTD isn't seen as a failure of a Bond film by everyone who watches it.
I don't think it's as much a case of 'NTTD is a better film than a Bond film' either. To some extent I think that's a way of fans trying to cope with the idea that a majority of audiences enjoyed something they didn't as much (it's probably more reflective on us if anything and what we believe a Bond film needs to do ultimately, which often can become contradictory and debatable when looking at the entire series). Anyway, everyone who watches it goes in with the understanding it's a Bond film, and particularly one from the Craig era.
Safin almost has a paint by numbers feel to him. He has a clear motivation at the beginning of the film, by the end I am not really sure what his main goal is.
Stromberg is a generic villain with a deformity. Boy does that need a thread to discuss, in this case the webbed hands I guess are tied to his love of the sea? But why have him with webbed hands anyway? It does nothing for the story.
If I am choosing which film to re-watch it will be Spy. For it's flaws, it packs a hell of a punch in terms of entertainment. It is a true popcorn movie and I love it for that very reason.
Says JW Pepper!
I suppose Stromberg's functional, and I do really like the fact that he has these little 'tricks' set up in his lair that Bond has to navigate. But I'd say Safin's more memorable. His motives become a little too cerebral by the last third of the film (ie. vague) but there's a lot going on that's compelling and quite dark.