Big Mi6 James Bond henchperson ranking game - NUMBER 10

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  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    I had Baron Samedi ranked number 15.

    I really memorable character more than a henchman perhaps, but Geoffrey Holder still added at lot of exciting presence to the role. Of course, later on I knew him mostly for ……



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  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I have Baron Samedi in 17th spot. Sure, he's a very memorable villain in a film full of memorable villains. But he doesn't really prove to be a very big threat to Bond in the end.
    He talks the talk, but that's about it. The final confrontation between Bond and the Baron is quite weak, albeit rather memorable. I guess in the end, I'd say he's...memorable.
  • Posts: 66
    I can’t be too disappointed with this result, though I proudly awarded the Baron that bronze medal GoldenGun mentioned.

    These days, I find the quirky henchmen by far the most compelling thing about Guy Hamilton’s 70’s films and most of them hang around in the upper tier of my ranking. But none of them outweirds the glorious Baron Samedi. Granted, I would be curious to read his job description. Jester? Fancy doorman to Kanangas underground lair? Croupier? Graveyard dwelling flutist? Tourist trap? He largely seems to be operating somewhat independently not only within Kanangas organisation but in the film as well, mysteriously wandering in and out of the proceedings, breaking the occasional fourth wall along the way. And while I normally would find these considerable drawbacks, in Live and let Die they actually seem like a positive boon.

    Of course, finally faced with traditional henchmanly tasks Baron Samedi doesn’t seem terribly good at his job. But as long as you are the man who can not die, who needs to be?
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited May 15 Posts: 7,492
    Let's talk top 10 now, starting with our #10, naturally:

    NECROS
    by Andreas Wisniewski
    in The Living Daylights

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    It took us until we arrived at the top 10 for the first Dalton era reveal, which means all his villain sidekicks managed to end up in our top 10. Admittedly, with only two entries that's easier to achieve than with seven, but still another strong showing for Tim's double bill nonetheless.

    As far as Necros is concerned, he's clearly our second favourite big bad blondie after FRWL's original by Robert Shaw.

    Coming with his very own Pretenders tune and with agile fighting skills (apparently Wisniewski used to be a dancer before he became an actor) Necros secured seven top 10's, of which one 4th and one 5th place were the highest scores.

    With four more top 15's and another three top 20's, only one member voted him outside the top 20, which was his lowest score at 24th.

    In total Necros collected 94 points.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    I had Necros at 17. Though I love TLD, and Necros in it, he's a bit "average" for me. Seems like a nice bloke to me in real life, but hardly a menacing foe for Bond.
  • SeanoSeano Minnesota. No, it's not always cold.
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    I had Necros at #4 -- he's clearly one of the more effective henchmen in the Bond canon -- just consider his singlehanded safe house assault to retake Koskov, not to mention his murder of Saunders right under Bond's nose. Plus the aerial fight with Bond is excellent. He was the needed menace to back up Koskov and Whitaker's smarm and bluster.
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    Have to apologise to @GoldenGun , I haven't been participating in the results, must admit my heart wasn't in it, and found it difficult to put a list together! Anyways, delighted both of Daltons film henchmen got in top 10. As for Necros, I had him at 9, probably could have been higher! As @Seano stated , he appears in great set pieces in TLD, two of the series best fight sequences, and he has a spectacular death!
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
    edited May 15 Posts: 2,227
    Necros is ranked 6th on my list. While no henchman, blond or otherwise, will ever dethrone Grant, he's as close to his true heir as we'll ever get.
    Having two underwhelming main villains (no disrespect to the late, great Joe Don Baker) featured beside him, also greatly benefits him.
    Deadly, cunning and gets to do his dirty deeds while listening to his own theme song.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,565
    Necros as deadly milkman is very effective and there is even a great fight without Bond involved. When the same Pretenders music can be heared at the Prater we already now that this won't end nicely for everyone. Two great scenes and there is the cargonet fight as a third highlight with this henchman leading to 11th place in my ranking.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    Necros came in 8th spot for me.
    A great villain, who was a great contrast between Korsakov and Whitaker. His cold blooded menace really helped him to define his spot in the villains gallery of TLD.
    He’s also a real physical threat to Bond as displayed in the climatic cargo net fight.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    I ranked him 5th. He's always been a favourite of mine: athletic, lethal and with an awesome tune accompanying him. I'd say, perhaps not in this contest but in general, he's a bit underappreciated.
  • zebrafishzebrafish <°)))< in Octopussy's garden in the shade
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    Other than several of the henchmen before him, I get a vibe of seriousness from him. His character is believable, he does not fuss about his murders, is cold-blooded and capable. My #7.
    The sliding door murder is still mostly unbelievable to me, but Timothy's earnestness about it saves the scene.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    "Hey, mate. Watch it!"

    Great henchman and match for Bond. Other than the blond hair and being in one of the best fights of the series, another comparison to Grant is that Necros had the disguised-as-something-else gadget weapon which no doubt was inspired by the theme song music video from the previous film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah the gadget walkman was kind of the most memorable Bond gadget to never actually be in a Bond film.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    But Necros' walkman had the bomb detonator function too.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I like that even though their paths cross throughout the movie, Bond and Necros don’t go one on one till the plane fight.
    Because we know what Necros is capable of it makes the showdown with Bond all the more thrilling and exciting.
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    I must admit, Necros is a bit more on the middling end of henchmen for me. I love his walkman weapon though, and he does come off as legitimately dangerous. But in terms of blonde henchman he's not up there with Grant, nor do I find him quite as charismatic as Stamper.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 10:32am Posts: 18,025
    QBranch wrote: »
    But Necros' walkman had the bomb detonator function too.

    I guess it did, good point!
    007HallY wrote: »
    I must admit, Necros is a bit more on the middling end of henchmen for me. I love his walkman weapon though, and he does come off as legitimately dangerous. But in terms of blonde henchman he's not up there with Grant, nor do I find him quite as charismatic as Stamper.

    My slight issue with Stamper vs Necros is purely looks-based: Necros is clearly a super-fit guy who can do beautiful high kicks etc.(!) - Wisniewski was a dancer I think? Whereas Stamper is supposed to be big and intimidating, but he doesn't really look it to me. They even stick him in a very tight T shirt and it does him no favours. And I think looks are quite important in these roles.
  • edited 10:41am Posts: 5,213
    mtm wrote: »
    QBranch wrote: »
    But Necros' walkman had the bomb detonator function too.

    I guess it did, good point!
    007HallY wrote: »
    I must admit, Necros is a bit more on the middling end of henchmen for me. I love his walkman weapon though, and he does come off as legitimately dangerous. But in terms of blonde henchman he's not up there with Grant, nor do I find him quite as charismatic as Stamper.

    My slight issue with Stamper vs Necros is purely looks-based: Necros is clearly a super-fit guy who can do beautiful high kicks etc.(!) - Wisniewski was a dancer I think? Whereas Stamper is supposed to be big and intimidating, but he doesn't really look it to me. They even stick him in a very tight T shirt and it does him no favours. And I think looks are quite important in these roles.

    Fair enough. I think for me what stands out about Stamper is the impression the character gives off. Gotz Otto's not a bad looking guy or anything, but there's something about his facial expressions in that film which make him look mad and a bit ghoulish at times (especially when he's fighting Bond at the end). In many ways it reminds me more of Red Grant towards the end of FRWL when he's smirking sadistically at Bond - you can tell this character is genuinely nuts and dangerous.

    Necros is a much more stone cold, emotionless killer by contrast. That's threatening in its own way and it works, although I find it doesn't give the character as much personality. It's an issue I have with most of the 'blonde, tall and muscular' henchmen in Bond though.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    mtm wrote: »
    I guess it did, good point!
    007HallY wrote: »
    I love his walkman weapon though
    It's a very cool and overlooked gadget. Don't think anyone's made it yet.
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    I don't think Stamper was charismatic at all! Just a forgettable goon!
  • edited 10:47am Posts: 5,213
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    I don't think Stamper was charismatic at all! Just a forgettable goon!

    Perhaps my tolerance for Grant-esque henchmen in Bond isn't that great then, haha. I find them a wee bit boring, and I find there's more about Stamper that stands out (not a perfect henchman by any means, but I genuinely find him more interesting than Necros).

    Perhaps a controversial opinion too, but I also prefer the final fight between Bond and Stamper to the Necros/Bond one in TLD (although both are great!) But then again I'm a bigger TND fan than a TLD one in general really.
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