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The theories of Bond films! Why does Blofeld think the only agent to carry a Walther is Bond?

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  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Yeah it was all Maybelle's idea.

    Buy the church raffle ticket for a trip to Asia, she said. Take a chance, she said. See the world, she said. Get away from the motorboat-gate incident, she said. Forget your troubles for a while, she said.


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  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    The truth is, Maybelle was a controlling, manipulating monster hell-bent on turning both of them into Republicans, and the wooden carving was the final straw. Jay Dubya knew there was only one place he could be safe from her and her evil Republican ways, and went about landing himself in jail. Being in his position, he knew the Thai penalty system was harsh on GTA crimes and thus could be assured a life sentence there.

    And what better way to go out than behind the wheel of a V8? After spotting Eleanor in a showroom downtown, the plan was to launch said ve-hicle through the shop window, and lead the po-lice on a wild chase through the streets of Bangkok. Once arrested, he would pretend to protest the decision and use racial slurs just to ensure he didn't get off lightly. Ten fingers on the ink pad, bwoy.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited April 27 Posts: 1,856
    I don't see the issue. It's like eating at McDonald's in Paris.

    It's something this character would do.
  • BT3366BT3366
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    I don't know about the Peppers being in Thailand, but visiting a car dealership seems like something a guy like that would do because it's one of the only things he can relate to in a foreign culture where people are trying to sell the tourists junk. Maybe the biggest reason to go in: It's an American Motors dealership, something J.W. can relate to even more.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou, but I now hear a new dog barkin'
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Yeah it was all Maybelle's idea.

    Buy the church raffle ticket for a trip to Asia, she said. Take a chance, she said. See the world, she said. Get away from the motorboat-gate incident, she said. Forget your troubles for a while, she said.

    That sounds like a joke where the ticket buyer is ultimately conscripted and sent to Vietnam, while the war still lasted...
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Yeah it was all Maybelle's idea.

    Buy the church raffle ticket for a trip to Asia, she said. Take a chance, she said. See the world, she said. Get away from the motorboat-gate incident, she said. Forget your troubles for a while, she said.

    That sounds like a joke where the ticket buyer is ultimately conscripted and sent to Vietnam, while the war still lasted...

    Well the war was still going on, so J.W. got off easy I guess.

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  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited April 28 Posts: 5,752
    As always some wonderful thoughts here about something that was likely done to bring back a beloved character, or a character that audiences enjoyed seeing.

    There is a small comment in YOLT that has always bothered me, actually now that I think about it there are two small comments in YOLT that bother me.

    Lets tackle this one first...

    Osato and Brandt are summoned to Blofeld. He holds up the x-ray and Osato boastfully remarks that it is a Walther PPK. Blofeld then states "Only one man we know carries a Walther PPK. James Bond."

    After Osato throws Brandt under the bus he is charged with killing Bond NOW!!!

    What's your theory on why Blofeld says only Bond carries a Walther PPK?
    My question is, why does Blofeld say only one man they know carries a Walther PPK? Isn't the Walther standard issue for mi6 at the time? Wouldn't any British agent be carrying the same gun? Or does Bond get a special gun that no others get? Or is Bond the only agent that SPECTRE has had to deal with?

    As Fiona would say...questions, questions questions! Who has got answers?

    To those who would like a refresher on the scene in question:



  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Only three people he knows use such a gun, and he has killed two of them.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
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    Blofeld used to solve crime in Manchester whilst pissed
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    RichardTheBruce wrote: »
    Yeah it was all Maybelle's idea.

    Buy the church raffle ticket for a trip to Asia, she said. Take a chance, she said. See the world, she said. Get away from the motorboat-gate incident, she said. Forget your troubles for a while, she said.


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    Somehow this makes perfect sense.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I’ll admit my almost total ignorance about guns here, but from what I understand the PPK is such a standard issue gun for army and even certain police officers that something about a high ranking secret agent using a weapon is oddly kinda noteworthy (ie. You’d expect them to use something much more obscure).
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    On the handgun, only Bond was issued the Walther PPK (or PPK/S), as his standard issue.

    All others received the larger Walther PP.

    So the rest of the agents had bigger PPs. And yes I'm making this up.


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  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Doylist perspective: I think it's one of these times when for the audiences the Walther PPK was iconic and very closely associated with Bond, although in-universe obviously it should be meaningless.

    But here's how I interpreted it in universe: Blofeld knows in his guts it's Bond. He probably suspected his conveniently timed death was just a charade. The Walther is not proof of anything, anyone could have such gun. But Blofeld knows and to cut it short he just says only Bond uses a Walther. And it's not like anybody in the room would dare to question Blofeld.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited 4:11pm Posts: 17,857
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’ll admit my almost total ignorance about guns here, but from what I understand the PPK is such a standard issue gun for army and even certain police officers that something about a high ranking secret agent using a weapon is oddly kinda noteworthy (ie. You’d expect them to use something much more obscure).

    Yeah I don't think this would have happened in a Bond film a few years later: British use of PPKs became notorious when a police officer's Walther jammed when a gunman tried to kidnap Princess Anne and he was shot (he survived). PPKs were taken out of service after that.

    It's kind of surprising 007 still had one come TSWLM. I wonder if they considered ditching it.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    He actually says he's the only person they know...

    Bond was very famous at the time, which is why they "kill him" at the beginning of the film.
  • GerardGerard
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    mtm wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    I’ll admit my almost total ignorance about guns here, but from what I understand the PPK is such a standard issue gun for army and even certain police officers that something about a high ranking secret agent using a weapon is oddly kinda noteworthy (ie. You’d expect them to use something much more obscure).

    Yeah I don't think this would have happened in a Bond film a few years later: British use of PPKs became notorious when a police officer's Walther jammed when a gunman tried to kidnap Princess Anne and he was shot (he survived). PPKs were taken out of service after that.

    It's kind of surprising 007 still had one come TSWLM. I wonder if they considered ditching it.

    The incident and its consequences were used by John Gardner to explain why Bond changed his pistol in his novels.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    He actually says he's the only person they know...

    Bond was very famous at the time, which is why they "kill him" at the beginning of the film.

    So they never dealt with any other British agents but Bond? I understand he says "we". Which would imply that Bond is the only person SPECTRE knows that carries a Walther PPK?

  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
    edited 6:19pm Posts: 1,856
    thedove wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    He actually says he's the only person they know...

    Bond was very famous at the time, which is why they "kill him" at the beginning of the film.

    So they never dealt with any other British agents but Bond? I understand he says "we". Which would imply that Bond is the only person SPECTRE knows that carries a Walther PPK?

    Yeah, that's my vote. He is the only British agent they know.

    Anyway, Bond ruined many of SPECTRE's plans. It's normal for Blofeld to be a little paranoid.

  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    thedove wrote: »
    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    He actually says he's the only person they know...

    Bond was very famous at the time, which is why they "kill him" at the beginning of the film.

    So they never dealt with any other British agents but Bond? I understand he says "we". Which would imply that Bond is the only person SPECTRE knows that carries a Walther PPK?

    We did see the six other 00s get sent after them in the previous film, but I guess it's possible not one of them found any SPECTRE agents.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    And it's not like anybody in the room would dare to question Blofeld.

    Yeah I was thinking it is kind of odd Blofeld says something like that and no one questions him.

    Pretty surprising. You'd think the workforce would keep their boss informed. And he'd appreciate it.

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