Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited March 24 Posts: 8,504
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?

    I only read the DL one and it felt like a side note like: this is what The Sun reported earlier today, kind of blurb, and they, and their cousins never picked up the story again— and that’s telling.

    As for Villeneuve, he strikes me as a director who loves working with as many as the same people, or the same types of people on his projects. I wouldn’t be surprised if (hypothetical scenario coming-up!), Purvis and Wade wrote the first draft.

    Villeneuve attaches himself but tells EoN he’d love for Sphaits to have a pass as well— that wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something like that happened.

    And I could see EoN giving it the thumbs up.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 24 Posts: 5,869
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?
    As for Villeneuve, he strikes me as a director who loves working with as many as the same people, or the same types of people on his projects. I wouldn’t be surprised if (hypothetical scenario coming-up!), Purvis and Wade wrote the first draft.

    Villeneuve attaches himself but tells EoN he’d love for Sphaits to have a pass as well— that wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something like that happened.

    And I could see EoN giving it the thumbs up.
    It would make sense. We know EON aren't shy on collaboration.

    And I know some people would like them to step down, but I don't mind if Purvis and Wade are still being involved, especially for a first draft. Like it or not, they know their Bond and in my eyes have provided enough good to outweigh the bad (although I say that as a fan of both Brosnan and Craig's eras).

    Another thing I can hypothetically imagine is another writer maybe being brought in to amp up the humour, but that will also depend on what route they take with Bond as a whole. Villeneuve is a master and may surprise us, but based on what we've seen so far, it might be something the script will need unless Purvis and Wade would have that covered. I quite enjoyed the more subtle humour of Casino Royale to be honest, but EON may want to boost it a bit more with this next era.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 8,504
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?
    As for Villeneuve, he strikes me as a director who loves working with as many as the same people, or the same types of people on his projects. I wouldn’t be surprised if (hypothetical scenario coming-up!), Purvis and Wade wrote the first draft.

    Villeneuve attaches himself but tells EoN he’d love for Sphaits to have a pass as well— that wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something like that happened.

    And I could see EoN giving it the thumbs up.
    It would make sense. We know EON aren't shy on collaboration.

    And I know some people would like them to step down, but I don't mind if Purvis and Wade are still being involved, especially for a first draft. Like it or not, they know their Bond and in my eyes have provided enough good to outweigh the bad (although I say that as a fan of both Brosnan and Craig's eras).

    Another thing I can hypothetically imagine is another writer maybe being brought in to amp up the humour, but that will also depend on what route they take with Bond as a whole. Villeneuve is a master and may surprise us, but based on what we've seen so far, it might be something the script will need unless Purvis and Wade would have that covered. I quite enjoyed the more subtle humour of Casino Royale to be honest, but EON may want to boost it a bit more with this next era.

    For sure @Denbigh , it wouldn’t be out of bounds for another doctor to come on board and do a polish on the humour (or some over all polishes on the characters; I think PWB came on board to punch up the dialogue, work on the women characters and then, she seemingly was great to work with and I heard that CF kept her to massage the “science” behind the nanobots (essentially making this concept easier for audiences to grasp). I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the case. PWB is a great writer, high IQ creator. I’d love to see her back in some capacity).
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,869
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?
    As for Villeneuve, he strikes me as a director who loves working with as many as the same people, or the same types of people on his projects. I wouldn’t be surprised if (hypothetical scenario coming-up!), Purvis and Wade wrote the first draft.

    Villeneuve attaches himself but tells EoN he’d love for Sphaits to have a pass as well— that wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something like that happened.

    And I could see EoN giving it the thumbs up.
    It would make sense. We know EON aren't shy on collaboration.

    And I know some people would like them to step down, but I don't mind if Purvis and Wade are still being involved, especially for a first draft. Like it or not, they know their Bond and in my eyes have provided enough good to outweigh the bad (although I say that as a fan of both Brosnan and Craig's eras).

    Another thing I can hypothetically imagine is another writer maybe being brought in to amp up the humour, but that will also depend on what route they take with Bond as a whole. Villeneuve is a master and may surprise us, but based on what we've seen so far, it might be something the script will need unless Purvis and Wade would have that covered. I quite enjoyed the more subtle humour of Casino Royale to be honest, but EON may want to boost it a bit more with this next era.
    PWB is a great writer, high IQ creator. I’d love to see her back in some capacity.
    100%. I've actually been quite surprised by the lack of projects from her in regards to writing.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,980
    peter wrote: »
    I’ll tell you what I think is happening:

    A script is being written, and Villeneuve will be attached as director, if it’s finished in a time that fits his schedule.

    If this is the situation, once things start rolling, they move quickly ; is seems like a project that Villeneuve would be squeezing into his very crowded dance card
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 24 Posts: 14,960
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?
    As for Villeneuve, he strikes me as a director who loves working with as many as the same people, or the same types of people on his projects. I wouldn’t be surprised if (hypothetical scenario coming-up!), Purvis and Wade wrote the first draft.

    Villeneuve attaches himself but tells EoN he’d love for Sphaits to have a pass as well— that wouldn’t surprise me in the least if something like that happened.

    And I could see EoN giving it the thumbs up.
    It would make sense. We know EON aren't shy on collaboration.

    And I know some people would like them to step down, but I don't mind if Purvis and Wade are still being involved, especially for a first draft. Like it or not, they know their Bond and in my eyes have provided enough good to outweigh the bad (although I say that as a fan of both Brosnan and Craig's eras).

    Another thing I can hypothetically imagine is another writer maybe being brought in to amp up the humour, but that will also depend on what route they take with Bond as a whole. Villeneuve is a master and may surprise us, but based on what we've seen so far, it might be something the script will need unless Purvis and Wade would have that covered. I quite enjoyed the more subtle humour of Casino Royale to be honest, but EON may want to boost it a bit more with this next era.
    PWB is a great writer, high IQ creator. I’d love to see her back in some capacity.
    100%. I've actually been quite surprised by the lack of projects from her in regards to writing.

    I get the feeling she's been signed up to do big projects like the Tomb Raider thing and they've got a bit mired and bogged down in the studio processes. I guess she might also have been doing more script doctoring, which traditionally doesn't get publicised.
  • Posts: 704
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    Daily mail this time.
  • Informe_James_BondInforme_James_Bond Dominican Republic
    Posts: 77
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    If the river sounds, it is because it brings water.

    ;)
  • edited March 24 Posts: 6,677
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    If the river sounds, it is because it brings water.

    ;)

    Is this a "tears" allegory? You know, as in crying? ;)
  • edited March 25 Posts: 486
    peter wrote: »
    No script.
    No director.
    No coronations (I keep asking: when was the last time Batman was given to someone with zero tests?

    Again, nobody is claiming that there will be a coronation. ATJ has been rumoured to be a contender for well over a year. It's entirely possible that there IS a script and that there IS a director and that they HAVE screentested ATJ.

    We THINK that there is no script and there is no director because they usually announce the screenwriters and the director as soon as they sign the contract. What if it's different this time? What if the director is particulary secretive? What if the director and the writer are the same person? *cough* Nolan *cough*

    No, I am not saying that everything in the article is correct. Articles containing rumours often mix stuff that's true with stuff that isn't. What I do believe is true is that ATJ is a major contender, and probably the frontrunner right now.

    Where there's smoke, there's fire.
  • edited March 25 Posts: 486
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    I genuinely wonder what the UK tabloids would do if EON went full James Gunn and started shutting down these rumours instantly.

    Like this, two days before Craig was announced back in 2005?
    "Eon Productions confirm decision on James Bond #6 has not been made yet"
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=2889

    As for Gunn, he shut down reporting about Superman's budget even though the report was correct and provided confrimation for the budget!! (The website for the Ohio Motion Picture Tax Credit includes public info on the movie's budget.)
  • Posts: 332
    peter wrote: »
    No script.
    No director.
    No coronations (I keep asking: when was the last time Batman was given to someone with zero tests?

    Again, nobody is claiming that there will be a coronation. ATJ has been rumoured to be a contender for well over a year. It's entirely possible that there IS a script and that there IS a director and that they HAVE screentested ATJ.

    We THINK that there is no script and there is no director because they usually announce the screenwriters and the director as soon as they sign the contract. What if it's different this time? What if the director is particulary secretive? What if the director and the writer are the same person? *cough* Nolan *cough*

    No, I am not saying that everything in the article is correct. Articles containing rumours often mix stuff that's true with stuff that isn't. What I do believe is true is that ATJ is a major contender, and probably the frontrunner right now.

    Where there's smoke, there's fire.

    So there's truth to it but not this truth? Are these alternative facts?
  • edited March 25 Posts: 2,901
    I’ve said it many times, but when EON get to a certain point with this film, the auditions (ie. the fact that they’re going on) won’t be a secret. They’ll announce their director, writers, release dates, perhaps the title etc. and then begin official pre-production from there. We won’t know the specific candidates obviously, but when the project is officially greenlit we’ll know.

    Just be patient. It might not be this year, but something will eventually happen with this film. There’s no scenario where a magic wand is waved and EON come out with everything about this film completely ready to go.
  • edited March 25 Posts: 486
    M_Blaise wrote: »
    So there's truth to it but not this truth? Are these alternative facts?

    ?? What do you mean by that? I am saying that ATJ being the fronrunner is likely true but for example there being a 'fantasy' twist probably isn't.
    007HallY wrote: »
    There’s no scenario where a magic wand is waved and EON come out with everything about this film completely ready to go.
    But it's not like the rumour about ATJ's imminent casting came completely out of the blue. He has been rumoured for one and a half years now! Longer than Craig had been rumoured for before he was officially announced!
  • Posts: 2,901
    007HallY wrote: »
    There’s no scenario where a magic wand is waved and EON come out with everything about this film completely ready to go.
    But it's not like the rumour about ATJ's imminent casting came completely out of the blue. He has been rumoured for one and a half years now! Longer than Craig had been rumoured for before he was officially announced!

    I genuinely don’t see what any of that proves. They’re still rumours. And nothing at the casting level is currently happening.
  • Posts: 486
    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    There’s no scenario where a magic wand is waved and EON come out with everything about this film completely ready to go.
    But it's not like the rumour about ATJ's imminent casting came completely out of the blue. He has been rumoured for one and a half years now! Longer than Craig had been rumoured for before he was officially announced!

    I genuinely don’t see what any of that proves. They’re still rumours. And nothing at the casting level is currently happening.
    Of course it's a rumour. I am not arguing that ATJ has been cast. I am arguing that it is possible these rumours are true.
  • Posts: 2,901
    007HallY wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    There’s no scenario where a magic wand is waved and EON come out with everything about this film completely ready to go.
    But it's not like the rumour about ATJ's imminent casting came completely out of the blue. He has been rumoured for one and a half years now! Longer than Craig had been rumoured for before he was officially announced!

    I genuinely don’t see what any of that proves. They’re still rumours. And nothing at the casting level is currently happening.
    Of course it's a rumour. I am not arguing that ATJ has been cast. I am arguing that it is possible these rumours are true.

    Well… the rumours are that ATJ has been cast. That’s the point.

    But I get what you mean. I think there’s a reason he’s the subject of these stories. But it doesn’t give us any indication about his chances of even getting an audition, much less the role.
  • edited March 25 Posts: 3,279
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    Daily mail this time.

    This story is adding new details to the rumours, particularly `The insider added: 'They would like it to be a little more of a fantasy, with interesting and iconic bad guys and over the top action and not as real as Daniel Craig's films were.

    'They are looking to steer it more towards the Pierce Brosnan films in terms of tone and referencing Bond's past that people loved, but still incorporating moments to move the films forward.'


    Casting ATJ would be a step in that direction if this is the path EON are taking next. Where are they getting this info from?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,551
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    Daily mail this time.

    This story is adding new details to the rumours, particularly `The insider added: 'They would like it to be a little more of a fantasy, with interesting and iconic bad guys and over the top action and not as real as Daniel Craig's films were.

    'They are looking to steer it more towards the Pierce Brosnan films in terms of tone and referencing Bond's past that people loved, but still incorporating moments to move the films forward.'


    Where are they getting this info from?

    Nothing more than some geek's wishful thinking? Honestly, I cannot for the life of me see BB and MGW leak things like that to some journalist, especially when no big announcements have been made yet.
  • Posts: 486
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Honestly, I cannot for the life of me see BB and MGW leak things like that to some journalist

    Me neither but they aren't the only people who could leak Bond 26 related information. I mean it wasn't BB or MGW who in the spring of 2005 leaked to the tabloids that Craig was their favourite.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,551
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Honestly, I cannot for the life of me see BB and MGW leak things like that to some journalist

    Me neither but they aren't the only people who could leak Bond 26 related information. I mean it wasn't BB or MGW who in the spring of 2005 leaked to the tabloids that Craig was their favourite.

    Wasn't that Craig's mom? Or is my memory letting me down? ;-)
  • Posts: 3,279
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Red_Snow wrote: »
    Exclusive: Inside Aaron Taylor-Johnson's Bond deal: Daniel Craig's 007 replacement could sign up for FOUR films after 'endless discussions' with bosses - who could add a 'fantasy' twist to the beloved spy franchise
    https://dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13225041/inside-aaron-taylor-johnson-james-bond-film-deal.html

    Daily mail this time.

    This story is adding new details to the rumours, particularly `The insider added: 'They would like it to be a little more of a fantasy, with interesting and iconic bad guys and over the top action and not as real as Daniel Craig's films were.

    'They are looking to steer it more towards the Pierce Brosnan films in terms of tone and referencing Bond's past that people loved, but still incorporating moments to move the films forward.'


    Where are they getting this info from?

    Nothing more than some geek's wishful thinking? Honestly, I cannot for the life of me see BB and MGW leak things like that to some journalist, especially when no big announcements have been made yet.

    If this is true, I doubt it would be either of them leaking this stuff anyway. Whoever this insider is (if true) is either on a hell-bent mission to put pressure on Bond 26 getting made quickly, or is on a mission to get fired off the production.
  • Posts: 704
    Denbigh wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Genuine question, Im intrigued to know why ATJ? Don’t get me wrong, as we all know, I’m down for him in the role, no matter what others may think, but I’m just curious as to why the tabloids have picked him?
    Kind of related to this, why did the big industry sites (Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter), either gave a quick blurb (not using any of the investigative reporters) to The Sun’s article, or said nothing at all, and the week since the “breaking news” have dropped this story all together? That kinda tells me something.
    It’s also strange to me because of how long each took their time to report on it themselves? If they were waiting for confirmation from their own sources, why bother positing? Did they panic and not wanna be behind the news in case there was truth to it? And then found out for themselves that it was bull?

    Also @peter, going back to Villeneuve quickly, I'll be interested to see if Denis plans on collaborating with Jon Spaihts again after Dune?
    Variety, Deadline, etc, don't trust EON.

  • Informe_James_BondInforme_James_Bond Dominican Republic
    Posts: 77
    What surprises me most about this Daily Mail publication is about the special event with the other living Bonds to introduce the new one.

    I mean, they couldn't get them together to celebrate "60 Years of Bond" but they're going to do it to announce Aaron.

    Naaaaahhhhh!!

    :D
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited March 25 Posts: 5,869
    Thought I'd just post the top five from the who should be James Bond next elimination game, not including "none of the above" which is technically in fourth place.

    pokodOR.jpeg

    1) Leo Suter
    2) Theo James
    3) Callum Turner
    4) Aiden Turner
    5) Sam Claflin
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,474
    Claflin's another one that I haven't focused too heavily on for the most part but the last couple of things I saw him in (Peaky Blinders and Last Night in Soho) really sold me on him possibly playing Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,980
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Thought I'd just post the top five from the who should be James Bond next elimination game, not including "none of the above" which is technically in fourth place.

    pokodOR.jpeg

    1) Leo Suter
    2) Theo James
    3) Callum Turner
    4) Aiden Turner
    5) Sam Claflin

    I wholeheartedly believe that if these 5 were actually auditioned and screentested, one would stand out and be cast.

    While I have a current favorite, I could be happy if any of those gents were cast.
  • Posts: 704
    talos7 wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Thought I'd just post the top five from the who should be James Bond next elimination game, not including "none of the above" which is technically in fourth place.

    pokodOR.jpeg

    1) Leo Suter
    2) Theo James
    3) Callum Turner
    4) Aiden Turner
    5) Sam Claflin

    I wholeheartedly believe that if these 5 were actually auditioned and screentested, one would stand out and be cast.

    While I have a current favorite, I could be happy if any of those gents were cast.

    Most of them are too old.
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    We're judging on looks which if fair, you must look the part. However I think that they won't be able to play the part correctly, I think none of them have their own interpretation.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    Posts: 5,869
    We're judging on looks which if fair, you must look the part. However I think that they won't be able to play the part correctly, I think none of them have their own interpretation.
    That’s why we have auditions. Like @talos7, while I have my doubts about a couple of them for various reasons, there’s no reason why any of them couldn’t audition, where EON will find out for themselves.
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