Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • Posts: 14,840
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    I thought he looked his best in TWINE, and looking back looked great in DAD. I don’t think he soaked up the sun as much as Rog.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited January 20 Posts: 40,492
    I only noticed his age come DAD and the bits of gray in his hair. I think he looks excellent in TWINE too, never really felt he looked overly old there.
  • Posts: 725
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 14,882
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,983
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    … he matured beautifully into the role.
  • Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.

    I’ll always maintain that not giving Brosnan a final film that’s more grounded and perhaps more influenced by Fleming is one of the series biggest missed opportunities. Much as I love Casino Royale with Craig, there is still a sense of unfinished business with Brosnan’s Bond.
  • Posts: 2,952
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.

    I’ll always maintain that not giving Brosnan a final film that’s more grounded and perhaps more influenced by Fleming is one of the series biggest missed opportunities. Much as I love Casino Royale with Craig, there is still a sense of unfinished business with Brosnan’s Bond.

    It’s an interesting what if, but part of me thinks it’s not something that would have worked. TWINE was, at least in part, an attempt to make a darker, more drama heavy Brosnan instalment, and I think they lost sight of his strengths as Bond. I think it could potentially have been the same with a hypothetical fifth film. Anyway, we already have GE which, while not grounded as such, was influenced by Fleming and gave Brosnan enough to work with that didn’t go beyond his capabilities.
  • edited January 18 Posts: 725
    007HallY wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.

    I’ll always maintain that not giving Brosnan a final film that’s more grounded and perhaps more influenced by Fleming is one of the series biggest missed opportunities. Much as I love Casino Royale with Craig, there is still a sense of unfinished business with Brosnan’s Bond.

    It’s an interesting what if, but part of me thinks it’s not something that would have worked. TWINE was, at least in part, an attempt to make a darker, more drama heavy Brosnan instalment, and I think they lost sight of his strengths as Bond. I think it could potentially have been the same with a hypothetical fifth film. Anyway, we already have GE which, while not grounded as such, was influenced by Fleming and gave Brosnan enough to work with that didn’t go beyond his capabilities.

    The Brosnan formula was the Brosnan formula. It coudn't be more grounded than TWINE.



  • edited January 18 Posts: 2,080
    007HallY wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.

    I’ll always maintain that not giving Brosnan a final film that’s more grounded and perhaps more influenced by Fleming is one of the series biggest missed opportunities. Much as I love Casino Royale with Craig, there is still a sense of unfinished business with Brosnan’s Bond.

    It’s an interesting what if, but part of me thinks it’s not something that would have worked. TWINE was, at least in part, an attempt to make a darker, more drama heavy Brosnan instalment, and I think they lost sight of his strengths as Bond. I think it could potentially have been the same with a hypothetical fifth film. Anyway, we already have GE which, while not grounded as such, was influenced by Fleming and gave Brosnan enough to work with that didn’t go beyond his capabilities.

    What I should’ve said was another film in the vein of GE for his 5th installment, as opposed to “grounded.” I mean even something like FRWL isn’t incredibly “grounded” in our reality. But mainly speaking, what I was trying to say was that I think Brosnan’s Bond became a victim of the technology they were showing both in front of and behind the camera, whereas GE feels a bit more subdued when it comes to that stuff, and like you said, does take influence from Fleming. So if we had a 5th Brosnan Bond film that dropped all of the ridiculous elements like invisible cars and stopping his heart-rate willingly, and perhaps even cut back on the amount of Machine Gun shootouts his Bond was known to engage in, we could’ve gotten something quite special I think. I think GE had that balance down perfectly.
  • Posts: 2,952
    007HallY wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Brosnan started at 42 and he definitely didn't look it. Theo James can definitely pull it off if production starts in 2026

    The only issue with that comparison is we still got four installments in seven years during Brosnan's time. I imagine this next era will yield half that amount in a similar timeframe.

    And even Brosnan started ageing pretty quickly. Not as much as Moore, who suddenly started showing his age round FYEO, but still. It struck me when I saw TWINE.

    Yeah, his "Remington Steele look" disappeared quickly.

    He looked very young in GE and then...

    There would few fans that would disagree that Pierce could've played Bond for a fifth time.

    I’ll always maintain that not giving Brosnan a final film that’s more grounded and perhaps more influenced by Fleming is one of the series biggest missed opportunities. Much as I love Casino Royale with Craig, there is still a sense of unfinished business with Brosnan’s Bond.

    It’s an interesting what if, but part of me thinks it’s not something that would have worked. TWINE was, at least in part, an attempt to make a darker, more drama heavy Brosnan instalment, and I think they lost sight of his strengths as Bond. I think it could potentially have been the same with a hypothetical fifth film. Anyway, we already have GE which, while not grounded as such, was influenced by Fleming and gave Brosnan enough to work with that didn’t go beyond his capabilities.

    The Brosnan formula was the Brosnan formula. It coudn't be more grounded than TWINE.



    I'd say GE was as 'grounded' as it got. And again, that's a film where Bond commandeers a tank.

    But honestly, that's fine. Bond doesn't need to be 'grounded' all of the time, and I'm not sure if I can see Brosnan doing the sort of stuff Craig did in CR (slightly different Bonds anyway, and I'm not sure if Brosnan had a hair out of place post action sequences after a certain point in his films).
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
    edited January 18 Posts: 2,934
    It's a strange one, this. I do think Brosnan had another one in him and he definitely deserved to end on something better than DAD, but...trade that for Dan and Eva in CR in 2006? Not a world I want to live in, man.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Venutius wrote: »
    It's a strange one, this. I do think Brosnan had another one in him and he definitely deserved to end on something better than DAD, but...trade that for Dan and Eva in CR in 2006? Not a world I want to live in, man.

    Seconded. We are singing from the same hymn sheet here.
  • To be honest, a fifth Brosnan Bond film in 2004 would have pushed Casino Royale back to 2007, allowing Quantum Of Solace not to suffer from the 2007–08 Writers Guild of America strike. In a perfect world, it would thus have been released in 2009 with a better script. This could have been a somehow better scenario.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    Venutius wrote: »
    It's a strange one, this. I do think Brosnan had another one in him and he definitely deserved to end on something better than DAD, but...trade that for Dan and Eva in CR in 2006? Not a world I want to live in, man.

    Completely agree mate. Pierce was the Bond I grew up with, but it was time for a change, Casino was the perfect change
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 18 Posts: 1,381
    Before Craig, I wanted a 5th Brosnan Bond film. It's not compulsory for it to have been Casino Royale. I just enjoyed Brosnan's Bond slickness and wanted to see more of his Bond. For me, to this day, no Bond escapes stylishly like Brosnan's Bond.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Before Craig, I wanted a 5th Brosnan Bond film. It's not compulsory for it to have been Casino Royale. I just enjoyed Brosnan's Bond slickness and wanted to see more of his Bond. For me, to this day, no Bond escapes stylishly like Brosnan's Bond

    A 5th film with a similar tone and sense of style as "The Thomas Crown Affair" would have been a great curtain call; Brosnan was so good in it.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
    edited January 18 Posts: 1,381
    talos7 wrote: »
    Before Craig, I wanted a 5th Brosnan Bond film. It's not compulsory for it to have been Casino Royale. I just enjoyed Brosnan's Bond slickness and wanted to see more of his Bond. For me, to this day, no Bond escapes stylishly like Brosnan's Bond

    A 5th film with a similar tone and sense of style as "The Thomas Crown Affair" would have been a great curtain call; Brosnan was so good in it.

    Yes, something of that ilk. You've nailed it! For me, it felt like Brosnan took the spirit of Tomorrow Never Dies into The Thomas Crown Affair. He was so good in it. So sure-footed.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Not a red herring
    edited January 18 Posts: 566
    Just going on looks, Broz could've even stuck around for a sixth.

    Broz in 2007:
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    I'm glad he didn't though.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,561
    Brosnan could have easily played Bond well beyond DAD -- and probably would have if CR hadn't become a possibility.
  • Pierce has definitely aged like fine wine in his older years compared to some of the other Bond actors. Perhaps even more so than Connery himself.
  • I think the shaggy hair in Goldeneye aids Brosnan in looking younger. Get a haircut, hippy!
  • It makes you think what the perfect age is for each actor to make their debut.

    I think apart from Rodg and possibly Daniel they all debuted at a youthful enough age 8r at least looked younger than their years when they started.
  • Posts: 14,840
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I only noticed his age come DOD and the bits of gray in his air. I think he looks excellent in TWINE too, never really felt he looked overly old there.

    Not overly old but he started looking his age. In the previous two movies he looked younger than his age. Especially GE. Moore was the one who aged the most and the most suddenly between films, even taking into account his age.

    So yeah, back on topic, I think they should cast someone in their early to mid 30s, ideally.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    I think like with the CR case, if they don't find a suitable young actor, they could go with someone older. Maybe 37-38 like Craig.
  • SatoriousSatorious Brushing up on a little Danish
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    Briefly met Brosnan mid-2006 whilst filming Butterfly On A Wheel (later renamed Shattered) in Vancouver and he looked younger then than he did in DAD which was four years earlier. I guess some of this comes down to make-up + stylist - but he easily had one more in him.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Another young actor who should be considered; my 26 year old Daughter is an admirer.

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    He'll never happen, either due to his domestic violence allegations or the fact that he's impossible to work with and his career has pretty much stalled out ever since. Hell, even back then, he wasn't very good in anything I saw him in.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Yeah, I’m unaware of any of his legal issues.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,492
    talos7 wrote: »
    Yeah, I’m unaware of any of his legal issues.

    They still seem to be only allegations, but regardless, I think that guy burned his bridges. I'm surprised he's still getting cast in some of the things he is, but I see those are rare offerings sprinkled throughout all the DTV garbage he does.
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