Would you rather watch LTK OR QOS?



  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Very tempting to go with Connery, but I really have to say Craig as CR (#1), QOS (#4), and SF (#5). FRWL is my second favorite, and love DN, but GF is only one falling outside of my top 10.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    I know it's a different time and era. I know it's three of the strongest novels. I am still in awe of how EON was able to crank out three wonderful film adventures in 3 years. We will never see that again.

    On the Craig front, dealing with an un-finished script and re-writes during filming I have to say QOS didn't turn out as badly as it may have been. Funny how they rushed QOS and as such we are very unlikely to see a Bond film have 2 year gaps ever again.

    This is a tough one for me to answer. I will go with Connery trilogy as I always gain enjoyment of FRWL and GF. DN has grown on me and has climbed up my rankings.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Venutius wrote: »
    Connery was my first Bond, but CR and QOS mean more to me on a personal level. Shame SF's so far below the standard of those two but, even so, I can't live in a world without Craig's first two, man - so CR-QOS-SF it is.

    Objection, your honor... and I know there's no accounting for taste, but I appreciate SF the most (barely) of all the Craig entries. Next would be CR and NTTD, not necessarily in that order. And between QOS and SP the jury's still out on which I prefer... they're both mediocre at best.
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  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    A tough call, but DN, FRWL and GF are more re-watchable IMO.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Since Connery VS Craig was such fun and spurred some good thoughts and ideas, lets pit Roger against Pierce!

    Roger---LALD, TMWTGG and TSWLM! A great mix as it took a few films for Roger to find his solid footing. One would argue Spy is the best of the three but LALD and even Golden Gun has it's fans.

    Pierce---GE, TND, TWINE! One could argue that GE represented a peak for Brosnan as Bond. But there are fans of TND and TWINE. When you look at the trio you don't see much continuity but you do see the producers changing things up and of course Pierce's Bond is the only one to deal with a female villain.

    Would you rather watch Roger's first three movies OR Pierce's first three movies
  • Pierce’s three for me. I love LALD and TSWLM, plus TMWTGG has its moments, but Pierce is my Bond at the end of the day.
  • PrinceKamalKhanPrinceKamalKhan Monsoon Palace, Udaipur
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    R1s1ngs0n wrote: »
    I would even take TB, YOLT and DAF over any Craig trio, any day.
    That is to say the first three Connery are pretty much unbeatable.

    Ditto. Even though I do love CR'06 but none of Craig's follow up Bond films come close to his 1st while the Connery era as a whole is quite enjoyable and rewatchable.
    thedove wrote: »
    Would you rather watch Roger's first three movies OR Pierce's first three movies

    Definitely Sir Rog's 1st 003. I generally prefer the "old school" Bond films on the whole.
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    Roger’s. I love LALD and TSWLM, and TMWTGG is quite enjoyable too on the right days. I prefer GE over all of those, but would put TND lower than all those (I still enjoy it), and then TWINE I’m not really a fan of.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Ah, an easy one.
    Brosnan's three, and it's also coincidental, because I'm currently watching the Brosnan Era, and they're getting rewatchable for me nowadays, I've watched them last Friday or so, and watched them again yesterday 😅.

    Actually for me, the better of the Moore Era came out later in his tenure, starting with MR (my personal pick in his tenure).

    TMWTGG is my least favorite of the whole series (yes, you've heard it right), due to many things that the film got wrong, then LALD is almost close to my bottom ten, and TSWLM is in the middle part of my rankings (found LALD too overlong and slow, with never ending chase scenes like that boat chase, then there are some other chase scenes in that double decker bus, and that plane runway chase, like the majority of the film was spent in that chase scenes, then nothing happened in the film until the climax, it's just a matter of Bond having a hide and seek with the villains that gets for too long, I'd never found anything enjoyable in that film, it's the slowest paced Bond film for me (probably edging out Thunderball), it's too long and slow with nothing much happened, the only thing that's good in it is the Paul McCartney song).

    Then TSWLM, I appreciate the iconic moments, but I could say that Moonraker did improved for me upon some parts, especially the characters, the characters in TSWLM were not interesting for me, and not much of a personality (Stromberg was lazy as a villain, and have no personality, just a lame version of Blofeld who just wandered inside his lair and sit on his chair commanding his henchmen, Anya had a potential as in her premise, but she ended up being passive and damsel in distress, and quite helpless, doing nothing too, added to that was Bach's monotone and wooden acting, the plot was interesting but again are rehash of YOLT, Holly Goodhead and Hugo Drax in the next film was a big improvement over these two).

    With the Brosnan Era, everything is a big evolution, the Bond Girls had been given way more due and agency, and so are the villains and the plot.

    So, an easy one, the Brosnan Era for me, and not close.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    GE-TND-TWINE for me. Famke Janssen and Sophie Marceau? I'm there, dude...er, as the kids said 30 years ago.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’m old school and a die hard Moore fan, so I’ll go the LALD, TMWTGG and TSWLM trilogy on this one.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    thedove wrote: »
    Since Connery VS Craig was such fun and spurred some good thoughts and ideas, lets pit Roger against Pierce!

    For sure you're not going to pit Lazenby's one against Dalton's two, right?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Absolutely Moore trilogy over Brosnan.
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Even though TMWTGG is one of the worst films in the series, only surpassed by DAF, MR and DAD, I'd still go for the first three of Moore. Why? Well, first off I really love LALD, but more importantly, I enjoy Moore in any film, no matter how bad it is. Brosnan, allthough his films are superior, they're not as much fun, or as compelling as 3x Moore. I like Brosnan far better in The Thomas Crown Affair anyway.
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    Moores trilogy without a doubt!
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    Really tough one... I'd go by default for Brosnan, even though his films diminish in quality. GE was great and I prefer it to Moore's three, including TSWLM which goes too far into sci-fi territory for my taste. I like LALD, but just not enough. And Christopher Lee alone cannot save TMWTGG. Now I'm not a big fan of TND, the most average Bond movie if there's one, but Carver is fun even though he lacks menace. TWINE is also a big missed opportunity, but at least there's Coltrane and Carlyle. Oh and Sophie Marceau in her gorgeous prime.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    First 3 Brosnan's for me
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    TND is the only Brosnan outing I find more or less bearable, so Moore in a landslide.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    This one is difficult, as Moore was my introduction to Bond but Brosnan was 'my' Bond. These films are pretty evenly matched, with LALD and GE being a little rough around the edges but both solid debuts, while TSWLM and TND would be slicker in style, with larger scope and budget, and imo the peak of either era. TMWTGG and TWINE are weaker entries with sometimes odd or awkward performances from the main actor, but there's still much to like in these films.

    I'm gonna go with Moore era here, simply because they're older classics, but damn this is a close call.
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    Difficult. TSWLM is one of my favourites, and TWINE is one of my least favourites. I do rate GE and LALD highly (although I prefer GE personally, and put it again in my best Bond films category). If it comes down to it I’d say TND beats TMWTGG, and while it’s not a perfect film it’s very rewatchable.

    So I guess it’s Brosnan for me, but it’s between two options with a couple of stinkers.
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    I love Moore. That being said, Brosnan, I’d go with Brosnan’s trilogy.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    The fact that TMWTGG (one of my least favourite Bonds) is unfortunately a part of Moore's first three gives Brosnan an edge here for me, so I'd go with his.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    Early 1970's Bond is the weakest era for me, so easily going with GE-TND-TWINE.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Moore, easily.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Pierce, closely. At least Christmas Jones is nice too look at. Much better than listening to Sheriff Pepper’s outdated humor. Plus, Moore’s first 3 movies have some serious pacing issues: LALD with the boat chase, TMWTGG often when Sir Christopher Lee isn’t on screen in general, and TSWLM with its overall action finale. At least PB tried to go in a different direction, namely with humanizing characters.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    That's really a tough choice to make. I love LALD, not so much the other two (including MR would totally change the picture, by the way). But the alternative contains the more-or-less turd called TWINE, which is only slightly preferable to DAD, which fortunately is not included. Still, if only on a thumbs-up, thumbs-down basis I'll have to hand this to the Broz trilogy. I'll try to sleep during TWINE, as I probably usually do.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    edited September 2023 Posts: 5,132
    Good stuff! I wasn't sure how that would go and I would say that it was closer than I thought. When you view them as three films you see some of the uneven spots and things in the script and how the producers attempted to correct.

    Okay lets move on to another would you rather:

    This is a variation on a previous one we did.

    The last time there was a female villain (antagonist) was in TWINE when Electra King showed her true colours and gave Bond a run for his money. Before that the villains were male and since they have been male. Makes you wonder why we haven't had any since. Many highlight Sophie's performance as a highlight of the film.

    In the history of the franchise we haven't had a female director. There have been some good ones in history and there are some good ones now. One wonders why Patty Jenkins doesn't get considered as she proved with Wonder Woman, and to a lesser degree Wonder Woman 1984 that she can handle a big production. Kathryn Bigelow was another female director that proved she could handle action and a big production.

    So I have to ask the question:

    Would you rather a future Bond film feature a female villain (antagonist) or be directed by a female director?

    Take this wherever you want! Would a female director make different choices and show different things within a movie? Would battling a female villain give Bond a different feel or a different vibe?

    What say you mi6 community?
  • JustJamesJustJames London
    edited September 2023 Posts: 209
    Don’t much mind if they do both. As long as they’re suited.

    But if it comes to a full on suggestion, then give Won Kar Wai (male) the directing job, and have PWB as the villainess. XD
  • Female villain. 100%. But I'm also very open to a female director directing, especially if it's the right female director. Such as Kathryn Bigelow.
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