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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yeah that's my favorite poster of the Craig era too. I had it hanging up on my bedroom wall for the longest time.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    Because Eon can get away with it. Nobody looked at the poster for SKYFALL and thought “wow, I’m skipping that one”.

    I don’t mind the minimalistic approach. Not everything needs to be pop art. The NTTD teaser poster is my least favorite though. It just looks like a still image with typeface slapped on.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah, I love the posters for CR. That teaser poster said everything there was to say about Craig's Bond.

    I really loved the ones that had him walking from one side to the other, although they perhaps weren't perfectly executed.
    What the CR posters really got, and maybe all the other Craig posters in fact, was that the point of these films is to celebrate Bond himself- so you didn't need much else apart from Craig looking supercool.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Quite interesting news:

    NEW from Rome! #MissionImpossible director Christopher McQuarrie tells Fandango that #DeadReckoning Parts 1 & 2 are not the end of the series, and they already have ideas for what comes next.

    It doesn't necessarily mean Cruise is in them of course, things may yet change, and it may not be true at all but McQ's way of keeping an ending secret, but interesting nevertheless if he is being truthful.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    mtm wrote: »
    Quite interesting news:

    NEW from Rome! #MissionImpossible director Christopher McQuarrie tells Fandango that #DeadReckoning Parts 1 & 2 are not the end of the series, and they already have ideas for what comes next.

    It doesn't necessarily mean Cruise is in them of course, things may yet change, and it may not be true at all but McQ's way of keeping an ending secret, but interesting nevertheless if he is being truthful.

    That's cool if true, but I do remember in 2019 at the Jamaica launch of NTTD, some of the interviews made it sound like Daniel could be persuaded to do one more and we know how that turned out

    I'm hoping MI8 doesn't end with Ethan's death but I do think MI7 will end with death or cliff hanger to push us to the next installment
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah, I love the posters for CR. That teaser poster said everything there was to say about Craig's Bond.

    I really loved the ones that had him walking from one side to the other, although they perhaps weren't perfectly executed.
    What the CR posters really got, and maybe all the other Craig posters in fact, was that the point of these films is to celebrate Bond himself- so you didn't need much else apart from Craig looking supercool.

    Yeah. So true. The focusing and celebrating of Bond himself, made CR's posters ultra-cool. I think my favourite is the side shot one with the silencer and Bond almost looking like a silhouette, except that his left eye shows.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah that is a really nice one. The Spectre teaser in the turtleneck is pretty striking and great too.
    I think Bond works well on posters when it's really great, kind of fashion-level studio photography. The over-processed ones (like say the CR main release poster of him walking away from the Casino with Vesper stood on the steps) or the ones which just look like snaps (the NTTD blue wall teaser) aren't as good. They should have gone more for stuff like that Spectre teaser or the CR one you mention, or even Girl With the Dragon Tattoo teaser with Craig holding Mara: I thought that poster looked great.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah that is a really nice one. The Spectre teaser in the turtleneck is pretty striking and great too.
    I think Bond works well on posters when it's really great, kind of fashion-level studio photography. The over-processed ones (like say the CR main release poster of him walking away from the Casino with Vesper stood on the steps) or the ones which just look like snaps (the NTTD blue wall teaser) aren't as good. They should have gone more for stuff like that Spectre teaser or the CR one you mention, or even Girl With the Dragon Tattoo teaser with Craig holding Mara: I thought that poster looked great.

    Aaah! Yes! The turtleneck SP one is really good. Sure, the Dragon Tattoo poster is really good too. Quite Bondian at times.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    :-bd

    Getting back on topic slightly: everyone is at the Spanish Steps in Rome (is there even a cinema nearby? I don't remember one! :D ) right now for the premiere of the film- we should hear the first reactions tonight, so that will be exciting. I can't imagine it not being fantastic, but I guess we'll find out.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Just finishing up Rogue Nation in my rewatch marathon and it's still so hilarious to me that this film released the same year as SP, holds so many similarities - shadowy organizations, the villain in a glass box, lead heroes going rogue, Austria and Morocco-set sequences, bad guys are captured in the end instead of being killed, integral side characters hooked up to bombs, etc. etc. etc. - yet this one is vastly superior across the board. I can't think of a single thing SP does that was stronger, better, or more engaging than its RN counterpart.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    SP is probably a weaker film, yet I find it more engaging. I never really feel a desire to rewatch RN the way I do for SP.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Rogue Nation is a better film than Spectre. But as a James Bond fan, I've seen SP more than RN. I also discovered that no matter how bad a Bond film is, I feel more connected to it.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I can’t chalk it up to just simply being a Bond film, cause I’d probably rather watch any M:I film over TND all the way. But I do connect more with the atmosphere and music of SP. there’s something comforting about it that hits me.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Just finishing up Rogue Nation in my rewatch marathon and it's still so hilarious to me that this film released the same year as SP, holds so many similarities - shadowy organizations, the villain in a glass box, lead heroes going rogue, Austria and Morocco-set sequences, bad guys are captured in the end instead of being killed, integral side characters hooked up to bombs, etc. etc. etc. - yet this one is vastly superior across the board. I can't think of a single thing SP does that was stronger, better, or more engaging than its RN counterpart.

    And of course they both even share a big key location for a set-piece (and Rogue Nation cheekily adds a silver Aston Martin DB6 to the car park outside it).
    Rogue Nation is a better film than Spectre. But as a James Bond fan, I've seen SP more than RN. I also discovered that no matter how bad a Bond film is, I feel more connected to it.

    I've probably seen them similar amounts, but I do know what you mean. Spectre is a bit of a mess of a film, but it does really nail feeling like a Bond film, in a way that NTTD doesn't for my money. And there is just enough in it to entertain a Bond fan like me, even if it's a bit disjointed and not quite stuck-together well enough.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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    “Spectre is a bit of a mess of a film, but it does really nail feeling like a Bond film, in a way that NTTD doesn't for my money.”

    Yes I very much agree.

    Rouge Nation is quite a bit better though I must say. Also realized on a recent watch that the Vienna opera scene is like an amped up version of Tosca in QOS. They even alternate shot between the action and the opera.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Reviews are starting to appear, and they're as glowing as hoped. Apparently the villain is... AI !


    #MissionImpossibleDeadReckoning is incredible. The fastest 2 hr 30 min movie I’ve seen in a long time. One of the best films I’ve seen this year and @TomCruise has done it again. Demands to be seen on the biggest screen. Cannot recommend this movie enough.


    #MissionImpossibleDeadReckoning this phenomenal! Hayley Atwell STEALS ever scene she’s in. This is now my favorite #missionimpossible film. With the AI being the villain, this feels like a cautionary tale. The action had my heart rate elevated. That train scene is mind blowing!


    MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE – DEAD RECKONING PART ONE works as Christopher McQuarrie’s ambitious examination of/meditation on AI and the dangerous path we might be on. (He doesn’t like it) With the inherent nature of being “part one” (said that a lot lately), not as satisfying as FALLOUT



    #MissionImpossibleDeadReckoning is the best movie of the year!
    @TomCruise has done it again! Jaw-dropping action, high stakes, and a pulse-pounding third act that’ll have you on the edge of your seat! #TomCruise is better than ever, and #HayleyAtwell is incredible!



    I don't think this is a spoiler, I don't really regard it as one, but it does involve the ending so:
    Apparently there's no cliffhanger- it has an ending.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I’ve thought that the misuse of AI would be a possibility for a future Bond; it sounds like MI has beaten them to it.
  • MalloryMallory Do mosquitoes have friends?
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    A.I eh? That’s another year added to Bond 26’s development, as Cruise got there first 😂
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Mallory wrote: »
    A.I eh? That’s another year added to Bond 26’s development, as Cruise got there first 😂

    It really is impressive considering how long ago this began development; AI, and it's possible dangers really hasn't been in the public spotlight for that long.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Mallory wrote: »
    A.I eh? That’s another year added to Bond 26’s development, as Cruise got there first 😂

    It really is impressive considering how long ago this began development; AI, and it's possible dangers really hasn't been in the public spotlight for that long.

    It's possible that it didn't get added to the plot until fairly recently, knowing how McQ writes these things on the hoof.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    True… he is able to pivot with great agility.
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    I’m so glad to read al mlbof these formidable reviews. Cruise never fails.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    The positive reviews aren't surprising. This means EON are going to make Bond 26 an electric banger than earlier imagined or thought.
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    Shoot is that a spoiler
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    I guess I best avoid this place till I see the film
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Just finishing up Rogue Nation in my rewatch marathon and it's still so hilarious to me that this film released the same year as SP, holds so many similarities - shadowy organizations, the villain in a glass box, lead heroes going rogue, Austria and Morocco-set sequences, bad guys are captured in the end instead of being killed, integral side characters hooked up to bombs, etc. etc. etc. - yet this one is vastly superior across the board. I can't think of a single thing SP does that was stronger, better, or more engaging than its RN counterpart.

    James Bond? 😁
    Joking aside, I watch the MI movies, and despite the elaborate staging of set pieces, the one thing it will never have is Bond himself, Cruise may risk life and limb for his art, but Ethan Hunt is just too dull a character to make me fully engage with the films. I will certainly go see the new one (probably with my Service users) and think the same as I did with the rest of the series, enjoy but no desire to watch again!
  • MalloryMallory Do mosquitoes have friends?
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    Just finishing up Rogue Nation in my rewatch marathon and it's still so hilarious to me that this film released the same year as SP, holds so many similarities - shadowy organizations, the villain in a glass box, lead heroes going rogue, Austria and Morocco-set sequences, bad guys are captured in the end instead of being killed, integral side characters hooked up to bombs, etc. etc. etc. - yet this one is vastly superior across the board. I can't think of a single thing SP does that was stronger, better, or more engaging than its RN counterpart.

    And if memory serves correctly, Spectre was supposed to come out first, before Paramount moved it forward by six months or so (presumably reading all the leaks, noting the similarities, and wanting to be out of the gates first).

    In many ways RN shared the same production issues SP had, including a poor third act that required substantial reworking well into production. They got theirs by and large right.
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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Never say never, he did not say no. 🤔
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