Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Posts: 7,500
    Stamper wrote: »
    They will cast Will Smith I guess.

    They Will for sure.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Stamper wrote: »
    They will cast Will Smith I guess.

    Oh good, then we'll get our gay *and* Black Bond!
  • edited December 2021 Posts: 526
    peter wrote: »
    @00Heaven … My feeling is Amazon will want a say in casting and direction of the new era (after all, they will be “the money” (and every penny of it)). It’s a very reasonable assumption that casting won’t begin in earnest until after the sale is complete. Also;

    Barbara Broccoli is also working on Daniel Craig’s MacBeth set to debut at the end of April and run through early summer (so she will be busy juggling that, as well as working on the release of a Civil Right’s era film she’s producing).

    I get so exhausted with BB doing this project and that, while Bond could be ramping up. They sure never seem to be in a hurry to get these movies out. Probably be 4 or 5 years before we get another one. I wish Amazon would push them to get the films out faster.
  • 007InAction007InAction Australia
    edited December 2021 Posts: 2,341
    Should the next bond get a short hair cut like dc, or long like most of the other bonds ?
    Or it doesn't matter ?

  • Posts: 7,500
    Should the next bond get a short hair cut like dc, or long like most of the other bonds ?
    Or it doesn't matter ?

    Did the other Bonds have long hair cuts? Both Sean and Roger had short hair cuts, didn't they? Brozza and Tim had slightly longer, but I would still not describe them as long hair cuts.

    Anyway, I suppose my answer to the question is that it entirely depends on the actor and his looks.
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    echo wrote: »
    Henry Cavill as
    Pierce Brosnan's James Bond 007
    in
    Nail in the Coffin

    I laughed at this a bit too much

    I hope they don't pick Henry Cavill, especially coming after Craig, it'll feel like a step down.
    Cavill may look like Bond, but that's not enough anymore
  • I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.

    It's because acting isn't just about looks: if it were then we could have a cardboard cutout being waved around in front of the camera :)
  • baerrttbaerrtt United kingdom
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    Craig's success has changed the idea that a perfect James Bond has to look like the once standard ideal. My feeling is that Babs will go for a choice as surprising as Daniel was and Cavill quite frankly isn't.
  • I think the concept of Cavil as Bond as become as tiring as hearing Elba as Bond, or Hardy as Bond. Of coarse, I think Cavil would be fine in the role, it’s not the acting skills that bother me about that decision, it’s the fact that it seems to lazy and uninspiring to go with him. Again nothing against Cavil, I think he’s a good actor, but I’d much rather EON go for another left field choice rather than pick the names that the tabloids throw around.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I would completely survive if he were cast, he'd be fine if never actually great. But I'd much rather be surprised and perhaps even a bit challenged again: I'd like someone brilliant like Craig to pop up and make it his own.
  • Posts: 7,500
    I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.


    You are really setting the barr low aren't you, if having the right looks is the only requirement?
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    I don't think Craig was ever a strange fit for Bond, if he followed Dalton, I don't think anyone would have been shocked....but because he followed Brosnan who was very dandy, Craig seemed a shocking choice. In his screen test with the long hair, Craig looked Daltonesque. Patrick McGoohan was wanted as Bond for Dr. No....and McGoohan looks like Craig.

    It's funny though, I don't understand why anyone that looks like or seems like a Brosnan-type Bond candidate is always bashed....they could still cast someone of that ilk and give him a strong script and director. It's the same Brosnan that was Bond in GoldenEye.
  • I'd like the next Bond actor to look like Fleming's description too. I think perhaps Tim Dalton was the actor nearest to that, or Connery in his first few. Daniel Craig's image was a bit of a stumbling block for me. I suppose the irony is, he's possibly the finest actor that took on the roll, but he's my least favourite actor to play Bond.
    It's the movies, it's okay to say aesthetics are important I think.
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    I don't think Craig was ever a strange fit for Bond, if he followed Dalton, I don't think anyone would have been shocked....but because he followed Brosnan who was very dandy, Craig seemed a shocking choice. In his screen test with the long hair, Craig looked Daltonesque. Patrick McGoohan was wanted as Bond for Dr. No....and McGoohan looks like Craig.

    It's funny though, I don't understand why anyone that looks like or seems like a Brosnan-type Bond candidate is always bashed....they could still cast someone of that ilk and give him a strong script and director. It's the same Brosnan that was Bond in GoldenEye.


    and that film would of been top 5 for me if it was with Dalton... but with Brosnan...

    that being said my top choise Hardy and my second choice Fassbender wont be bond...


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    Should the next bond get a short hair cut like dc, or long like most of the other bonds ?
    Or it doesn't matter ?

    I want a classic Bond look for the next actor, tall and dark with a Jon Hamm Madmen hairstyle to match. Someone who looks tough and has the acting chops and charisma to match. Oh yes, and they must be a MASSIVE fan of the Fleming novels. If they aren't, then for me it would be a deal breaker.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.

    Those two things don't go together.
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
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    Caville looks the part but he's already played Superman, and I don't think the producers would want a Bond actor to be associated with another hugely-popular role. It's too bad Robert Pattison did a Batman movie, otherwise he would've been my first choice.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson Moderator
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    00Heaven wrote: »
    I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.

    Those two things don't go together.

    No fooling. I can’t even watch the guy without noticing how uncomfortable he seems on screen.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Birdleson wrote: »
    00Heaven wrote: »
    I don't get the hate that some people have for Henry Cavill. He is very good looking and looks like Bond unlike Craig. I think some fans doesn't want a good looking, handsome actor to play Bond.

    Those two things don't go together.

    No fooling. I can’t even watch the guy without noticing how uncomfortable he seems on screen.

    He has admitted he not only acts for "the art", but for the money... He finds money very important in his life.

    Saying that, and it may be something @Birdleson has picked up on: he very often does appear uncomfortable in front of the camera, almost like it's the last place he wants to be, so I wonder: does he take on roles he's unfit or incapable of doing for the paycheck?

    It's not unheard of that an actor turns down roles because s/he felt they weren't right for the part being offered (hell, Daniel Craig almost didn't accept Bond until he read the script), but is Cavill's approach the opposite? Does he weigh the financial gains first, and then worry about playing the character, second (or at all)?

  • edited December 2021 Posts: 12,837
    Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way about Cavill, he’s just so wooden in everything I’ve seen him in. Jack O’Connell is still my favourite suggestion, and I like the idea of them going younger again, but I’m trying my best to just be open minded about it. I think going into it with the mindset of “the next guy MUST be this and look like this” is potentially setting ourselves up for disappointment. I don’t think anyone saw Daniel Craig coming until it hit the press, and they’ve only gotten more and more unpredictable with these films since casting him. I think it’s probably best to leave our preconceptions and expectations at the door. That might help us all give the next guy a chance, even if he’s not who we would’ve picked ourselves.
  • If it’s Cavill or Aidan Turner I’ll be a happy camper
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    If it’s Cavill or Aidan Turner I’ll be a happy camper

    If and when we get a new James Bond movie or product, I’ll be a happy camper.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Cavill would be asked to screen test almost certainly (looks), and then would make it no farther (acting). In fact, I think this is actually what happened.
  • VenutiusVenutius Yorkshire
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    I've only seen Cavill in Night Hunter and I can't remember much about him/it.
    That's not goood...
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Venutius wrote: »
    I've only seen Cavill in Night Hunter and I can't remember much about him/it.
    That's not goood...

    He's simply a very good looking man, with no charisma. Since he's been an A-lister, I don't think his screen presence has improved one iota.
    I say this knowing he's a super nice guy in real life (a good friend of mine was his co-star in Immortal and The Tudors, and they've kept in contact over the years), but his acting leaves much to be desired.
  • See I completely disagree with all the comments about Cavil’s acting abilities. I find him to be perfectly fine in anything I’ve seen him in. His Superman films may be incredibly divisive, but Cavil was always doing the best that he could with that material. I think the issue is (and I haven’t seen much films w/ Cavil), is that he always seems to play the strong, stoic type of characters, and when your typecasted to play those kind of parts, there is only so much you can do w/ your abilities.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @007ClassicBondFan … check out Craig in CR… if he was a one dimensional actor, his “strong and stoic” characterization would have been robotic. And he would be type-cast.

    But because Craig is an exceptional talent, he filled HIS characterization of strong and stoic with all kinds of nuance and dimension so what we got instead was a secret agent who was considered a blunt instrument…. But that was just on the surface; underneath the stoicism was something deeper and far greater.

    If Cavill had more talent, he could turn his “typecasting” into a deeper characterization. But he can’t. He plays his roles to the best of his abilities, and it always ends up kinda flat. And outside of Superman, he has no film career; he’s doing TV series for Netflix (which is fine since he can make oodles of $$$ in residuals); Gerard Butler has more of a film career than Cavill at this time. That’s saying something…
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited December 2021 Posts: 7,518
    See I completely disagree with all the comments about Cavil’s acting abilities. I find him to be perfectly fine in anything I’ve seen him in. His Superman films may be incredibly divisive, but Cavil was always doing the best that he could with that material. I think the issue is (and I haven’t seen much films w/ Cavil), is that he always seems to play the strong, stoic type of characters, and when your typecasted to play those kind of parts, there is only so much you can do w/ your abilities.

    Cavill is a great Superman, I agree, but that's a part where the character is new to Planet Earth, and sometimes it feels like Cavill is new to Planet Earth.

    Bond is the opposite.

    EDIT: I should clarify, I really do enjoy him as Superman, and those films.
  • edited December 2021 Posts: 2,010
    peter wrote: »
    @007ClassicBondFan … check out Craig in CR… if he was a one dimensional actor, his “strong and stoic” characterization would have been robotic. And he would be type-cast.

    But because Craig is an exceptional talent, he filled HIS characterization of strong and stoic with all kinds of nuance and dimension so what we got instead was a secret agent who was considered a blunt instrument…. But that was just on the surface; underneath the stoicism was something deeper and far greater.

    If Cavill had more talent, he could turn his “typecasting” into a deeper characterization. But he can’t. He plays his roles to the best of his abilities, and it always ends up kinda flat. And outside of Superman, he has no film career; he’s doing TV series for Netflix (which is fine since he can make oodles of $$$ in residuals); Gerard Butler has more of a film career than Cavill at this time. That’s saying something…

    You’re not going to get any disagreements from me about Craig, I think what he did was absolutely superb, but I’m going to disagree with you on Cavil. Your observations about Cavil’s “lack of abilities” are merely just opinion based. I’ve talked to many people who think Cavil is a great actor, and to dismiss his film career to just Superman is a bit of a disservice to him. He’s been in plenty of other memorable appearances outside the Superman films, his role in one of the MI films being one of them. That Netflix show, is one of the biggest shows on that platform, and he’s proved to be a big reason as to why that is. What I think is saying something is all the people who seem to be pile driving on the guy because they don’t really want him for Bond, which I get, it’s a boring choice that’s been said over and over to where it’s no longer interesting in the slightest, but for everyone here to act like Cavil isn’t a great screen presence is just something I don’t agree with in the slightest, and while most of us seem to be on the same page, it’s kind of hard to deny that to many people outside the hardcore faction of the fandom, he is, in a way, perfect for Bond.
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