No Time to Die production thread (MINOR SPOILERS ALLOWED)

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  • Posts: 389
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Yeah, I'm fully expecting the film will be significantly divisive among Bond fans relative to critics/general public. Particularly thinking that
    the kid will cause fandom strife.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Agreed.
    There are some kind of Bond fans that are not going to be happy with
    Bond being a father with a black woman taking the 007 codename. All in the same film. Lol.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    A lot of people have already made up their minds. As soon as the rumour broke, people had their review notes ready - even if the film is great and Nomi is a great character.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    edited August 2021 Posts: 9,619
    To me that recalls the 70s and 80s, reviews regularly read like Mad Magazine satires written sight unseen.

    Takes all kinds.

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    BMB007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Yeah, I'm fully expecting the film will be significantly divisive among Bond fans relative to critics/general public. Particularly thinking that
    the kid will cause fandom strife.
    As Bond becomes a father in the Fleming-novel YOLT (unknown to Bond), this will be not far-fetched. So more or less it's possible in the Fleming-universe for Bond to have a child. So no one should really have a problem with that, when even Fleming made him a father back in the day.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Jan1985 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Yeah, I'm fully expecting the film will be significantly divisive among Bond fans relative to critics/general public. Particularly thinking that
    the kid will cause fandom strife.
    As Bond becomes a father in the Fleming-novel YOLT (unknown to Bond), this will be not far-fetched. So more or less it's possible in the Fleming-universe for Bond to have a child. So no one should really have a problem with that, when even Fleming made him a father back in the day.

    The issue is moreso that most movie-going people will naturally only be familiar with cinematic Bond and not Fleming's Bond, so any of these kinds of decisions will seem more "out there" for them.
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    Jan1985 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Yeah, I'm fully expecting the film will be significantly divisive among Bond fans relative to critics/general public. Particularly thinking that
    the kid will cause fandom strife.
    As Bond becomes a father in the Fleming-novel YOLT (unknown to Bond), this will be not far-fetched. So more or less it's possible in the Fleming-universe for Bond to have a child. So no one should really have a problem with that, when even Fleming made him a father back in the day.

    The issue is moreso that most movie-going people will naturally only be familiar with cinematic Bond and not Fleming's Bond, so any of these kinds of decisions will seem more "out there" for them.

    I fully understand that.
    But they should get to know the source material, before criticizing the cinematic adaptations.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Cary has flown in to the Venice film festival which is Sept. 1-11. He posted a short Story video floating in the canal..

    Any thoughts why? Interviews, promoting NTTD or just visiting as a film director/movie buff in general?
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 6,686
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    Jan1985 wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Yeah, I'm fully expecting the film will be significantly divisive among Bond fans relative to critics/general public. Particularly thinking that
    the kid will cause fandom strife.
    As Bond becomes a father in the Fleming-novel YOLT (unknown to Bond), this will be not far-fetched. So more or less it's possible in the Fleming-universe for Bond to have a child. So no one should really have a problem with that, when even Fleming made him a father back in the day.

    The issue is moreso that most movie-going people will naturally only be familiar with cinematic Bond and not Fleming's Bond, so any of these kinds of decisions will seem more "out there" for them.

    I fully understand that.
    But they should get to know the source material, before criticizing the cinematic adaptations.

    That certainly would be ideal!
  • Posts: 389
    Contraband wrote: »
    Cary has flown in to the Venice film festival which is Sept. 1-11. He posted a short Story video floating in the canal..

    Any thoughts why? Interviews, promoting NTTD or just visiting as a film director/movie buff in general?

    My guess is the latter, though I'm hoping it's some elaborate beginning of a "For Your Consideration" campaign 😂
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    There’s always a good reason to visit the most beautiful city in the world. Venice.
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    A lot of people have already made up their minds. As soon as the rumour broke, people had their review notes ready - even if the film is great and Nomi is a great character.

    I kind of feel the same thing happened with CR, after DC was announced, and then again with SF, when Sam was announced as director.
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    TripAces wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    A lot of people have already made up their minds. As soon as the rumour broke, people had their review notes ready - even if the film is great and Nomi is a great character.

    I kind of feel the same thing happened with CR, after DC was announced, and then again with SF, when Sam was announced as director.

    Unrelated, but would love to know what ol' Mendes thinks about NTTD down the line. Given how much he views Bond as a mythological figure and how his two films really lean into that aspect of the character — and how NTTD is (seemingly) going even further into that — it'd be interesting to know.

    Still crazy to me a director of his acclaim and caliber did not one but two of these (and as one of the few who really, really love Spectre — I'm thankful he came back for more!)
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    Still crazy to me a director of his acclaim and caliber did not one but two of these (and as one of the few who really, really love Spectre — I'm thankful he came back for more!)

    Better make that two. ;)
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,916
    Whenever I watch 1917, it makes me wish Mendes handled SP like that. It's almost as if Mendes used 1917 to remind the world that he's still a great director.

    Roger Deakins has nothing to do with the script of course, but I think Mendes missed him in SP.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    matt_u wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Still crazy to me a director of his acclaim and caliber did not one but two of these (and as one of the few who really, really love Spectre — I'm thankful he came back for more!)

    Better make that two. ;)

    And three!
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 389
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Whenever I watch 1917, it makes me wish Mendes handled SP like that. It's almost as if Mendes used 1917 to remind the world that he's still a great director.

    Roger Deakins has nothing to do with the script of course, but I think Mendes missed him in SP.

    I get what the look is going for in Spectre (this hazed, ethereal dream) and I think at some places it works wonders (basically any of the locations that have a fantastical quality to them — the lake in Austria leading to White's house, or the desert/Spectre base, or the shell of MI6, or the hotel). But in the more grounded, real locations — M's office or the clinic to name a few — it doesn't entirely work.

    Watched this little Mendes BAFTA interview from a few years ago recently

    I's very cool as a fan of his films. With "Spectre", he says the big difference between it and Skyfall was:

    1. Lack of time

    2. Spectre had a more "web" like story whereas Skyfall was more linear, which made the latter easier to develop

    Even as a huge fan of Spectre, I'll agree on both of those — tried to do a great deal in that film and clearly some of the moving pieces didn't quite fit all the way.

    Nevertheless, I'd rather have something that goes big and doesn't work all the time rather than something that plays it safe and by-the-numbers.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2021 Posts: 3,916
    Yeah @BMB007 I get what you mean. True, Mendes really needed time for SP. But all in all, SP isn't all that bad. I think why we continue to talk about it, is because it had serious potential to be not just a top Bond film, but a top spy thriller. But there's a feeling that if NTTD is super-brilliant, in retrospect, SP might grow in popularity over time.
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    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Yeah @BMB007 I get what you mean. True, Mendes really needed time for SP. But all in all, SP isn't all that bad. I think why we continue to talk about it, is because it had serious potential to be not just a top Bond film, but a top spy thriller. But there's a feeling that if NTTD is super-brilliant, in retrospect, SP might grow in popularity over time.

    Exactly, I think you hit the nail on the head with the "continue to talk about it" portion — the worst thing a film can be, whether some low budget indie film or a massive blockbuster like Bond, is forgettable and apathetic.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    BMB007 wrote: »
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Yeah @BMB007 I get what you mean. True, Mendes really needed time for SP. But all in all, SP isn't all that bad. I think why we continue to talk about it, is because it had serious potential to be not just a top Bond film, but a top spy thriller. But there's a feeling that if NTTD is super-brilliant, in retrospect, SP might grow in popularity over time.

    Exactly, I think you hit the nail on the head with the "continue to talk about it" portion — the worst thing a film can be, whether some low budget indie film or a massive blockbuster like Bond, is forgettable and apathetic.

    Yeah. Exactly.
  • StarkStark France
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Broccoli also said that for Spectre...
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    AM's have diff number plates in Matera. From twitter:

    Do we know why number plates change?


  • JWPepperJWPepper You sit on it, but you can't take it with you.
    edited August 2021 Posts: 512
    I haven't seen this one before! Some new shots and dialogue. Is it new? I guess it is because it says 2021.
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    Should be it has a digital display to change the plates. Modern update of Q branch of the original rotating plates from GF
  • edited August 2021 Posts: 13,273
    Stark wrote: »
    jake24 wrote: »
    Broccoli also mentioned last year that she thinks Cary has directed “one of the best Bond films ever”. I think this film could be a modern-day OHMSS but also quite polarizing to some fans.

    Broccoli also said that for Spectre...

    Did she say that for DIE ANOTHER DAY as well?
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    I don’t recall anyone saying that about Spectre.
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    jake24 wrote: »
    I don’t recall anyone saying that about Spectre.

    Gregg Wilson flatly stated SPECTRE was his favorite James Bond movie when asked during an interview around the time of that film's release.
  • Junglist_1985Junglist_1985 Los Angeles
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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    matt_u wrote: »
    BMB007 wrote: »
    Still crazy to me a director of his acclaim and caliber did not one but two of these (and as one of the few who really, really love Spectre — I'm thankful he came back for more!)

    Better make that two. ;)

    And three!

    And four, he made some great casting choices! It was really the scripts that let certain parts down. As I posted before, I think that some of Paul Haggis, John Logan and Sam Mendes ideas will influence the movie. They have been in charge of some of DC's biggest moments, they will culminate into NTTD.
  • AgentJamesBond007AgentJamesBond007 Vesper’s grave
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    JWPepper wrote: »
    I haven't seen this one before! Some new shots and dialogue. Is it new? I guess it is because it says 2021.

    This TV spot aired when Craig appeared on the Fallon show in October last year.
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