No Time to Die production thread

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  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited January 2021 Posts: 3,018
    Since we have nothing on NTTD. From earlier today: Official launch of Cambodia’s 1st Safe Ground with Daniel Craig in his role of un_mineaction Advocate for the Elimination of Mines and Explosives attends the official launch of undp_cambodia Safe Ground

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    Facebook: starts at time code -21:44

    https://www.facebook.com/UNDPCambodia/videos/vb.141301635936966/213878243819168/?type=2&theater
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  • DeerAtTheGatesDeerAtTheGates Belgium
    edited January 2021 Posts: 524
    antovolk wrote: »
    out on the 7th in some countries

    So much for that "Global Release", then... So in the Netherlands it opens on the 7th. Movies in Belgium always open on Wednesdays, so NTTD might open here on the 6th. (I hope, I don't want to wait until the 13th). Last time, Belgium and France shared a date, the 31st of March. So if that strategy still is in place, we might get the same here, with France and the Benelux ahead of the UK, and the US to follow after that.

    Meanwhile, the biggest cinema chain here has just given up trying to put a date on this film. :)
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    Zekidk wrote: »
    Life may never fully return back to the normal we once remembered it pre 2020.

    That's the most pessimistic post I've read recently. Personally I don't believe that we all are wearing facemasks in 2030. Even the spanish flu died out.

    I agree with the OP that "life MAY never FULLY return to normal". Even now, because of the pandemic, some of life has change forever. Studios are already facing the decision whether to rely on blockbusters like Bond, which could lead to downsizing the franchise.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,518
    delfloria wrote: »
    Zekidk wrote: »
    Life may never fully return back to the normal we once remembered it pre 2020.

    That's the most pessimistic post I've read recently. Personally I don't believe that we all are wearing facemasks in 2030. Even the spanish flu died out.

    I agree with the OP that "life MAY never FULLY return to normal". Even now, because of the pandemic, some of life has change forever. Studios are already facing the decision whether to rely on blockbusters like Bond, which could lead to downsizing the franchise.

    Agreed. There will generally speaking be more ongoing mask wearing than there was before, but certainly not to the extent there is now, of course. A lot of restaurants have replaced some of their street parking with street patios, and I hope that sticks around.

    There will be more, worse pandemics in the future and hopefully science and society have learned enough from this one to help us in the future.

    I suppose I don't have any strictly empirical evidence for this but I do feel like there is overpopulation on the planet, and these pandemics are one way of nature sorting itself out.
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    Contraband wrote: »
    Since we have nothing on NTTD. From earlier today: Official launch of Cambodia’s 1st Safe Ground with Daniel Craig in his role of un_mineaction Advocate for the Elimination of Mines and Explosives attends the official launch of undp_cambodia Safe Ground

    yQvS1Ga.jpg



    Facebook: starts at time code -21:44

    https://www.facebook.com/UNDPCambodia/videos/vb.141301635936966/213878243819168/?type=2&theater

    Craig is looking damn good. I wonder if there's any chance Barbara could persuade him to come back for one more?
    None of the Bond potentials tossed about in the media seem to hold a candle to Daniel , IMO.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2021 Posts: 7,518
    Love that he's still doing that stuff. Years ago he partnered with Omaze for UNMAS (United Nations Mine Action Service (or something)), and I donated $200 and got a tshirt with an Aston Martin on it out of the deal. Important cause.
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited January 2021 Posts: 7,518
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

    I'm not sure if you're delegating China to "and other developed countries" and "etc" (and I'm not sure why you would because it's an incredibly important component in this discussion), but if not, the movie won't come out until it can be screened in China as well as these other markets. Hugely important market.

    I agree with you about how "it's not going anywhere" not meaning much. We'll live with this like we live with the flu; vaccinations yearly will be available for those who want it type of situation.

    I think you just appear a little off the rails sometimes with how certain you are about the future.
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    @NickTwentyTwo I'm not worried about China. The Eight Hundred (released in China in Aug 21, 2020) grossed $460 million in China, and My People, My Homeland (released in Oct 1, 2020 in China) grossed $422 million in China. And those two were released before any vaccines.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,518
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    @NickTwentyTwo I'm not worried about China. The Eight Hundred (released in China in Aug 21, 2020) grossed $460 million in China, and My People, My Homeland (released in Oct 1, 2020 in China) grossed $422 million in China. And those two were released before any vaccines.

    Fair enough. They did seem to sort themselves out pretty quickly.
  • Posts: 187
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

    You are also leaving out the right-wing, Trump associated, Q-Anon sanity deniers that absolutely refuse masks and the vaccine as a whole. They are a good 40 percent of the country.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,518
    km16 wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

    You are also leaving out the right-wing, Trump associated, Q-Anon sanity deniers that absolutely refuse masks and the vaccine as a whole. They are a good 40 percent of the country.

    I actually think that figure is a little high. They’re very loud, but it’s a smaller group than that I think. Trump won with very few votes in 2016.
  • Posts: 187
    km16 wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

    You are also leaving out the right-wing, Trump associated, Q-Anon sanity deniers that absolutely refuse masks and the vaccine as a whole. They are a good 40 percent of the country.

    I actually think that figure is a little high. They’re very loud, but it’s a smaller group than that I think. Trump won with very few votes in 2016.

    I also keep reading about how there are some left wing groups hesitant over the vaccine as well due to the fast development and the mutating strains of the virus itself.

    Guess we will see.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    Posts: 7,518
    km16 wrote: »
    km16 wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    @TripAces Actually, he said the end of summer.

    Actually, No he didn’t ...
    Actually he said that "the US can and should vaccinate 70-85% of adults by the end of summer". https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/22/health/us-coronavirus-friday/index.html

    Once the most vulnerable 70% will have been vaccinated, covid deaths will be down something like 95% or more and life will be back to normal. Also, statements like "WHO says no chance of herd immunity this year" are simply fearmongering without context. The WHO said herd immunity won't be achieved worldwide. But it will be achieved in the US, EU, UK and other developed countries.

    And saying things like "it's not going anywhere" don't mean much. For example the plague is still here but it's nowhere near as devastating as it was hundreds of years ago.

    What does all this mean for No Time to Die? It means that it will be screened to audiences in packed theaters in Europe, North America, Japan, Australia, etc. in October.

    You are also leaving out the right-wing, Trump associated, Q-Anon sanity deniers that absolutely refuse masks and the vaccine as a whole. They are a good 40 percent of the country.

    I actually think that figure is a little high. They’re very loud, but it’s a smaller group than that I think. Trump won with very few votes in 2016.

    I also keep reading about how there are some left wing groups hesitant over the vaccine as well due to the fast development and the mutating strains of the virus itself.

    Guess we will see.

    Yeah I do think that’s true as well.
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    It's interesting that people think this will affect the franchise so much considering this is an issue all production companies and films are experiencing, and also that EON and the franchise itself has survived a lot more internal problems.

    Yes, they certainly have a knack of weathering storms but, at some point the luck has to run out, and things can turn nasty. There have been certain times in the franchise history where EON, MGM and everyone else involved have known with resounding certainty "everything is on the line here" and they have somehow managed to make it a success. Live And Let Die, Spy, Goldeneye, Casino Royale and Skyfall. And this is like that again, except the stakes are bigger than ever. If the movie fails to covers its expenses, it'll be 6 years work down the drain, MGM will go belly up, they struggle to begin the ball rolling for a number of years, as the background deals take place. I suspect we won't see another film until Biden has left office.

    With his age and cognitive decline he wont serve more then 1 term. TBH I really dont see where Bond goes from here after NTTD.
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    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    @Mendes4Lyfe Still doesn't understand how fundamentally different the situation will be in October compared to last December when WW 1984 was released.
    No-one can predict or say how anything will be in October or anytime in the future.
    Nothing is written!
    The US, UK, and Germany are all saying everyone who wants to get vaccinated will get vaccinated by fall. It's actually quite easy to predict what the situation will be like in October.

    In Denmark, too. Then we learned about delays and fewer planned doses coming from Pfizer, Moderna etc...
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    fjdinardo wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    It's interesting that people think this will affect the franchise so much considering this is an issue all production companies and films are experiencing, and also that EON and the franchise itself has survived a lot more internal problems.

    Yes, they certainly have a knack of weathering storms but, at some point the luck has to run out, and things can turn nasty. There have been certain times in the franchise history where EON, MGM and everyone else involved have known with resounding certainty "everything is on the line here" and they have somehow managed to make it a success. Live And Let Die, Spy, Goldeneye, Casino Royale and Skyfall. And this is like that again, except the stakes are bigger than ever. If the movie fails to covers its expenses, it'll be 6 years work down the drain, MGM will go belly up, they struggle to begin the ball rolling for a number of years, as the background deals take place. I suspect we won't see another film until Biden has left office.

    With his age and cognitive decline he wont serve more then 1 term. TBH I really dont see where Bond goes from here after NTTD.

    Personally Id want period movies but thats probably a minority wish.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
    Posts: 14,813
    I'm not sure what the big deal is, it's not like NTTD is the only film that has been rescheduled multiple times due to this pandemic. This has affected the whole film industry, it's not only Bond.
    No matter when it's released it's going to be tough. People are not likely to flock to cinemas for a while. Here in Australia, and particularly Perth, the virus has been all but eliminated, except for a dozen or so cases that are in hotel quarantine. Despite this people are still not going to the movies in droves. There is still a trepidation for people.
    As others have said, this is something we're likely to have to live with for the foreseeable future sadly. The world has changed, this is not the same as Cubby and Harry parting way's and the delay that gave us TSWLM, or the six year delay that gave us GE. This is a pandemic that is still ongoing. To predict anything for the release of NTTD still isn't concrete. We can hope that it gets released in October, and I really hope it does. Maybe by October the time is right and it'll be a huge success.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,861
    It’s funny how people are now starting to sulkily say “I’m losing interest in this movie” and yet it’s the only movie delay which has made the headlines here.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited January 2021 Posts: 23,449
    I simply don't understand why people are losing interest in the movie at all. I don't understand the psychology behind that. This isn't another episode in some low-quality TV series that may or may not be made because the series is flirting with cancellation. This is a Bond film, something that I, quite frankly, am willing to wait a decade for if needs be, and it's a finished Bond film. But certain circumstances temporarily prevent the release of this film. A sad truth, but not a shocking one. Still, the end of the tunnel is in sight. Who knows, maybe in a year from now, it'll all be over. Optimists say even sooner than that. Perhaps I'm a different "brand" of Bond fan, but I'm perfectly willing to wait another year if that's what it takes.

    Fortunately, those dramatic "I am losing interest" episodes are also a temporary thing. I'm sure that when we're getting the film for real, even the "Fire Barbara Broccoli" and "I don't think I'll be seeing this film" crowd will hurry to their local theatres as if their lives depended on it.

    And as I've said countless times before. If people want to watch a Bond film, it's not like their options are limited... There are 24 (or 26?) perfectly enjoyable films to watch. Then again, maybe I really am a different brand of Bond fan, someone who actually appreciates the good stuff we've been given so far, without craving more this very instant.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 14,861
    Yes it's just attention-seeking really. It's only a film, you don't need to be hyped up to see it; when it comes out and you fancy watching it, you can watch it. And most people who are interested in Bond movies probably will (safety concerns notwithstanding).
  • It’s funny how people are now starting to sulkily say “I’m losing interest in this movie” and yet it’s the only movie delay which has made the headlines here.
    Probably because it's one of the films that's been delayed the most (even before the pandemic of course) and because it's a Bond film the delays are therefore deemed more newsworthy by the media and the general public are therefore made far more aware of delays to that film than any other (particularly here in Britain of course). That's just my view of of it, of course.
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    I remember my nan said during the war she was supposed to see George Formby at Barnsley hippodrome and that got cancelled
    Due to the lighting man getting held up at the battle of El Alamein. After that she lost interest in George formby and never watched one of his films again. She smashed her Ukulele up. And never cleaned her windows again either. 🧐
  • None of the coverage I've seen so far has been negative - more just matter-of-fact. Bond is of course among the most famous, but it's also being discussed in the context of other big tentpoles that have been postponed.
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    Mr_Beach wrote: »
    I am 100% confident that life in Europe will be back to normal for good by this June.
    It’s funny how people are now starting to sulkily say “I’m losing interest in this movie” and yet it’s the only movie delay which has made the headlines here.
    Probably because it's one of the films that's been delayed the most (even before the pandemic of course)

    I think there are at least 100 other movies, that have been delayed several times.

    The pre-Covid-story with Danny Boyle and the script has nothing to do with Corona.
    So Bond has been delayed three times because of corona. Each time for about half a year.
    There are movies, that have only been delayed once, but that delay was from spring 2020 to summer 2021, ober a year with ONE delay.
    So would it have been better if last year in march they announced, that NTTD will be delayed to April 2022. That would have been only ONE deleay, but everyone would have said: "You're crazy, delaying to for 2 years."

    Whats's better? To announce a new date every 6 months?
    Or to delay less, but longer?
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    Posts: 4,247
    The wait is even tougher for those of us who are Zimmer fans. It's not easy knowing there's a Zimmer Bond score out there, locked in a vault somewhere. Like I having been aching for Zimmer and Marr's score, but most times I simply listen to their Inception score to ease my pain. But I understand the situation of things. I need NTTD to come out properly and make some profit, so the wait for Bond 26 wouldn't be longer than we're already anticipating.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    Posts: 7,971
    octofinger wrote: »
    None of the coverage I've seen so far has been negative - more just matter-of-fact. Bond is of course among the most famous, but it's also being discussed in the context of other big tentpoles that have been postponed.

    Agreed.

    That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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    What im frustrated is that how EON always took their slow ass time to make Bond movies in the Craig era. There should of been a 3rd Craig film in 2010. I dont believe the MGM bankruptcy accord until late 2010 so they could of got a film out then. Plus Skyfall in 2012. The 3 year gap between SF & SP is fair cause they wanted Mendes back. But what was the excuse to wait to make another one after SP? There should of been a Bond film in 2017 or 2018. Cubby would have never let EON only have 4 Bond movies in 14 years.
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