The What if thread...What if Danny Boyle had directed Bond 25 with Daniel Craig?

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  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Christoph Waltz as Blofeld wouldn’t have been back.
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    It is difficult to be objective here because I don't think Boyle was right for Bond and I'm not a big fan. I was relieved to learn that he quitted. I had a Tamahori feel about him, if that makes sense. So I suspect Craig would have got his DAD.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    Supposedly the script used for NTTD was being worked on prior to Boyle. Then it was binned during the Boyle period and brought back and rewritten. So they weren't working from scratch once Boyle left.

    Not sure if that's spin, though.
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 3,097
    What if Danny Boyle had directed Bond 25 with Daniel Craig?

    It would most certainly have met its release date of 25 October 2019 before the global pandemic and everybody would've seen it by now. 8-X
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Well, it would have a different title.

    Daniel Craig as Ian Fleming's James Bond

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    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel. I may be wrong, but it seems to me that there was talk for a while that Bond was mentoring a young female MI6 agent. And obviously the casting sheets revealed that the main villain was Russian, and that he was accompanied by a female Russian associate and a Maori henchman.

    It's very thin, but I think this movie would have been quit divisive. Expressed this way, it feels like it would have been a mix of classic elements and some new to the series. Plus the political subtext with the modern cold war theme. It also reminds me a bit of William Boyd's Solo which has itself polarized critics. However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year. Thus, the Craig era would have been over sooner. In this context, the pandemic could have served as a time for Eon to think about the future of the series and Bond 26 pre-production could have started much earlier than expected. A 2023 release date would have seemed plausible to me.
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    thedove wrote: »
    Yes not as easy to match up a game release with a movie release. Might be a good idea to just look at the older films and build a game on that. I wasn't a fan of Craig being shoehorned into GE for Wii. I would like to see them just use which ever Bond happened to be in that adventure.

    I remember Nightfall with some fondness and would like to see stand-alone adventures. Who knows it might provide EON with some story material for a future film? LOL!

    Sorry to resurrect this and the Casino Royale 1980's but i want to discuss all 3 of the what if's as this one passed me by completely


    But to Start with Boyle... I dont think it would of happened from what I hear Craig was so angry with the script he said either he goes or Boyle... now assuming Craig and boyle could of worked together what we know about his film likely would off been changed. Possibly Garden of Death of course as i have said multiple times this year if we got Garden of Death in 2019 we would be wondering if we would ever see another bond film rather then if we will ever see the 25th film. I could imagine if there was no covid and bond 25 came out in 2019 I could see No Time to Die (with perhaps a different script) coming in 2021 November with Craig..

    now lets go back to Casino Royale in the 80's

    2 points I want to make

    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    (or maybe with Sam Neil in both films)

    2. if it was with Dalton I think he would of pushed for the film to be as close to the book as always





    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    2. I also loved all of the games even the bad ones are better then having nothing at all... I wish we had video games every year

    even years First person games based on the previous films
    odd years 3rd person games based on the post fleming novels

    that would of been fantastic!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython "I want you looking FABULOUS."
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    I think this is something I can only speculate after seeing NTTD and after more info on Boyle's project is released.
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 84
    I'm interested to know what it was that was too radical for Eon. Bond being imprisoned would've been different, but it might've worked. I dare say there would've been more going on than just Bond being in prison and a 350 ft rocket.
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    I think this is something I can only speculate after seeing NTTD and after more info on Boyle's project is released.

    Exactly. There is too little confirmed information to build conclusions with.
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    2 points I want to make

    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    (or maybe with Sam Neil in both films)

    2. if it was with Dalton I think he would of pushed for the film to be as close to the book as always

    Regarding your first point, McClory actually tried to as he teamed up with Sony in 1997 with the hope to produce a rival Bond franchise, based on the two novels that were at their disposal, Casino Royale and Thunderball. Strange as it may sound, Columbia never seemed interested in the prospect of adapting CR again, and only McClory's canvassing in the late '90s was about to change their minds. This is why it does not seem so improbable to me that MGM or United Artists could have obtained the rights of the novel some years before.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2020 Posts: 7,703
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.

    I don't know; you're constraining your writers then. And I'm not sure any of the continuation novels have really come up with any really striking, must-have ideas. The last two movies have really been more original in terms of plot ideas, even if they didn't quite come together in Spectre's case.

    Some of the books have probably had better titles, I'll give them that. Devil May Care and Carte Blanche are proper top notch Bond titles in my book.
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 2,292
    By this point almost all of the continuation novels have dated to such an extent that it doesn't make sense to hire screenwriters to update and adapt those books when they could just write new scripts instead.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Revelator wrote: »
    By this point almost all of the continuation novels have dated to such an extent that it doesn't make sense to hire screenwriters to update and adapt those books when they could just write new scripts instead.

    Yes indeed. I'd say that maybe Colonel Sun has a slightly special place, perhaps because of its proximity to Fleming in terms of time of release, and it feels more authentic than most of the other continuations. But then most of the good stuff from that has been harvested already anyway.
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    Exactly. And nowadays there is very little chance of seeing Bond go up against a depraved Chinese villain, even if he's portrayed as a rogue colonel.
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    mtm wrote: »
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    It was set to be released in November 2019. The only major movie at that time was, it seems to me, Joker which was released early in October and was still at this time a cultural phenomenon. Other major releases include Terminator: Dark Fate and Frozen 2 but I don't think either of the two would have competed with Bond 25: the first one was a commercial failure and the second was aiming for a younger audience. Thus, even if the movie would have been divisive and therefore not gross as much as Skyfall, the landscape of the time would have been favorable for it to be a financial success.
    mtm wrote: »
    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?
    Columbia had held the rights to the novel since the 1960s but never used them after the Feldman's movie. The studio itself was then acquired in the late 80s by Sony that had not been against forming a partnership with McClory in the second half of the 90s. What stopped the project, aside from threats of legal action from Eon, was that MGM traded its share in the rights to adapt Spider-Man on the big screen. Sony was ultimately more interested in the prospect of launching the Spider-Man film series and gave up the rights to Casino Royale.
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    mtm wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.

    I don't know; you're constraining your writers then. And I'm not sure any of the continuation novels have really come up with any really striking, must-have ideas. The last two movies have really been more original in terms of plot ideas, even if they didn't quite come together in Spectre's case.

    Some of the books have probably had better titles, I'll give them that. Devil May Care and Carte Blanche are proper top notch Bond titles in my book.

    The only good thing about Carte Blanche was its title. The rest was painful.
  • Posts: 3,502
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.

    I don't know; you're constraining your writers then. And I'm not sure any of the continuation novels have really come up with any really striking, must-have ideas. The last two movies have really been more original in terms of plot ideas, even if they didn't quite come together in Spectre's case.

    Some of the books have probably had better titles, I'll give them that. Devil May Care and Carte Blanche are proper top notch Bond titles in my book.

    The only good thing about Carte Blanche was its title. The rest was painful.

    I would say the same about Devil May Care!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mtm wrote: »
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    It was set to be released in November 2019. The only major movie at that time was, it seems to me, Joker which was released early in October and was still at this time a cultural phenomenon. Other major releases include Terminator: Dark Fate and Frozen 2 but I don't think either of the two would have competed with Bond 25: the first one was a commercial failure and the second was aiming for a younger audience. Thus, even if the movie would have been divisive and therefore not gross as much as Skyfall, the landscape of the time would have been favorable for it to be a financial success.

    Yes it would have smashed it, wouldn't it?
    mtm wrote: »
    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?
    Columbia had held the rights to the novel since the 1960s but never used them after the Feldman's movie. The studio itself was then acquired in the late 80s by Sony that had not been against forming a partnership with McClory in the second half of the 90s. What stopped the project, aside from threats of legal action from Eon, was that MGM traded its share in the rights to adapt Spider-Man on the big screen. Sony was ultimately more interested in the prospect of launching the Spider-Man film series and gave up the rights to Casino Royale.

    Can't blame them: there was always more prospect of sequels and merch from Spidey than there was from a one-off Bond film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    Posts: 7,703
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.

    I don't know; you're constraining your writers then. And I'm not sure any of the continuation novels have really come up with any really striking, must-have ideas. The last two movies have really been more original in terms of plot ideas, even if they didn't quite come together in Spectre's case.

    Some of the books have probably had better titles, I'll give them that. Devil May Care and Carte Blanche are proper top notch Bond titles in my book.

    The only good thing about Carte Blanche was its title. The rest was painful.
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    So what say you? What if Danny Boyle had directed Daniel Craig in Bond 25 for a November 2019 release date?
    Based on what we know (Bond held prisoner, isolated from the rest of the world for most of the plot, trying a priori to prevent the launch of a 350-foot rocket) I have a feeling we would have had an updated adaptation of the Moonraker novel.

    That's an interesting thought. I do think Boyle would have done something pretty different so you may be right.
    However, I think it would have been a financial success since there were no big releases at this time of the year.

    That's a good point; when was it due out? Would it have been the end of 2019 or earlier?

    Risico007 wrote: »
    1. Why didn't Mclory try and pursue Casino Royale. Again in theory we could of had an unoffical bond duology of

    Casino Royale 1983 (with Connery as 007)
    Never say Never Again 1985 (with Connery as 007)

    Now that's a really good point. Who had Casino Royale at that time?

    Risico007 wrote: »

    as for Video games there are two thing I always wanted


    1. the post Fleming novels to be adapted into video games... it doesn't matter which bond they used but it would of been great for someone like Ubisoft and develop the post Fleming novels in a similar style to the way the films handled the Fleming novels

    That's fun but I guess it's like Eon's logic: why spend money getting the rights to a novel when you can just write your own anyway?

    Knowing that their main writers are why the results have been mixed in the last couple of entries, it won’t hurt to let new writers’ adapt the continuation novels into movies.

    I don't know; you're constraining your writers then. And I'm not sure any of the continuation novels have really come up with any really striking, must-have ideas. The last two movies have really been more original in terms of plot ideas, even if they didn't quite come together in Spectre's case.

    Some of the books have probably had better titles, I'll give them that. Devil May Care and Carte Blanche are proper top notch Bond titles in my book.

    The only good thing about Carte Blanche was its title. The rest was painful.

    I would say the same about Devil May Care!

    As I say though: great titles! :)
  • StarkStark France
    edited November 2020 Posts: 114
    Remember the 4chan leak about Boyle's script :

    "Before he left the film, Boyle had a different vision. His script involved a retired Bond returning after MI6 agents including M were targeted with a poisonous chemical.
    He would return but suffer from depression and alcoholism in his years in isolation. This element is said to still be in the final film.
    The whole scheme to poison individuals was led by a Russian oligarch. The leading lady was to be his trapped wife. The character of a young 00 who Bond is forced to team up with was always in NTTD.
    The film would be all about Bond getting his groove back. The villain would capture him and he'd spend a lot of time trying to escape prison.
    The end of the film was contested and eventually led to Boyle leaving. Boyle had Bond retire and the final scene was him getting knighted by the Queen.
    Boyle's film was said to be cheerier and brighter, than what they expected. It had less onus on action. No Time to Die is said to contain many of the same aspects but is based on a new script."

    This seems credible to me. Lots of good ideas, especially the ending with the Queen.
  • Agent_Zero_OneAgent_Zero_One Ireland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 132
    Stark wrote: »
    Remember the 4chan leak about Boyle's script :

    "Before he left the film, Boyle had a different vision. His script involved a retired Bond returning after MI6 agents including M were targeted with a poisonous chemical.
    He would return but suffer from depression and alcoholism in his years in isolation. This element is said to still be in the final film.
    The whole scheme to poison individuals was led by a Russian oligarch. The leading lady was to be his trapped wife. The character of a young 00 who Bond is forced to team up with was always in NTTD.
    The film would be all about Bond getting his groove back. The villain would capture him and he'd spend a lot of time trying to escape prison.
    The end of the film was contested and eventually led to Boyle leaving. Boyle had Bond retire and the final scene was him getting knighted by the Queen.
    Boyle's film was said to be cheerier and brighter, than what they expected. It had less onus on action. No Time to Die is said to contain many of the same aspects but is based on a new script."

    This seems credible to me. Lots of good ideas, especially the ending with the Queen.
    A "brighter and cheerier" Craig film would've definitely been a breath of fresh air for me. I quite like that proposed ending as well, although it maybe would've been more in character for Bond to refuse the knighthood (as he did in the book of TMWTGG). Did the leak specify whether M died?
  • StarkStark France
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    No the leak only specifies that, and I haven't seen any rumors about a possible death of M.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2020 Posts: 7,703
    Stark wrote: »
    Remember the 4chan leak about Boyle's script :

    "Before he left the film, Boyle had a different vision. His script involved a retired Bond returning after MI6 agents including M were targeted with a poisonous chemical.
    He would return but suffer from depression and alcoholism in his years in isolation. This element is said to still be in the final film.
    The whole scheme to poison individuals was led by a Russian oligarch. The leading lady was to be his trapped wife. The character of a young 00 who Bond is forced to team up with was always in NTTD.
    The film would be all about Bond getting his groove back. The villain would capture him and he'd spend a lot of time trying to escape prison.
    The end of the film was contested and eventually led to Boyle leaving. Boyle had Bond retire and the final scene was him getting knighted by the Queen.
    Boyle's film was said to be cheerier and brighter, than what they expected. It had less onus on action. No Time to Die is said to contain many of the same aspects but is based on a new script."

    This seems credible to me. Lots of good ideas, especially the ending with the Queen.

    Yeah that doesn't sound so awful. No idea if it's true but it sounds fine.
    It also sounds quite credible- not completely formulaic like a fan would make up, but also not completely crazy like someone would invent to say how awful it was.
    Stark wrote: »
    Remember the 4chan leak about Boyle's script :

    "Before he left the film, Boyle had a different vision. His script involved a retired Bond returning after MI6 agents including M were targeted with a poisonous chemical.
    He would return but suffer from depression and alcoholism in his years in isolation. This element is said to still be in the final film.
    The whole scheme to poison individuals was led by a Russian oligarch. The leading lady was to be his trapped wife. The character of a young 00 who Bond is forced to team up with was always in NTTD.
    The film would be all about Bond getting his groove back. The villain would capture him and he'd spend a lot of time trying to escape prison.
    The end of the film was contested and eventually led to Boyle leaving. Boyle had Bond retire and the final scene was him getting knighted by the Queen.
    Boyle's film was said to be cheerier and brighter, than what they expected. It had less onus on action. No Time to Die is said to contain many of the same aspects but is based on a new script."

    This seems credible to me. Lots of good ideas, especially the ending with the Queen.
    A "brighter and cheerier" Craig film would've definitely been a breath of fresh air for me. I quite like that proposed ending as well, although it maybe would've been more in character for Bond to refuse the knighthood (as he did in the book of TMWTGG).

    I agree there, I don't see him accepting it, but maybe the film would have sold it to us; maybe the change in character it took Bond on ending in him accepting it is what turned them off the script.

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    Stark wrote: »
    This seems credible to me. Lots of good ideas, especially the ending with the Queen.
    Although I like a number of these narrative elements, it is still strange that this synopsis does not make any mention of the 350-foot rocket which was being built on the famous 007 stage. Such a construction couldn't be a secondary part of the plot and should probably have been mentioned. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if this so called synopsis is fake.
  • StarkStark France
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    But I still hope Boyle will make a Bond film one day. Mark Tildesley, who loved the script, lobbied Barbara Broccoli to rehire him in the future.
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    The issue here is what do we want out of bond and who can best bring that and as much as Boyle doing bond has his fans like Nolan I sit back and wonder why
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    I finally got around to catching THE DARK KNIGHT RISES and I couldn't help but think of the lost Danny Boyle Bond during those scenes in which Christian Bale is imprisoned.
    I wonder if Boyle's B26 would have been compared unfavorably as another TDK trilogy ripoff?
    I can remember some suggesting SKYFALL being too influenced by TDK whereas the other Craig's were compared to Bourne.
    Regardless, had Boyle done his thing, I'd probably be watching my Blu-ray copy for the umpteenth time now instead of wondering when NTTD will be delayed yet again?
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