NO TIME TO DIE (2021) - Critical Reaction and Box Office Performance

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    This is a box office thread for a film that hasn't come out yet. If you don't like forecasts from the biggest box office website around, you're in the wrong thread.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    We had Jurassic Park the last two weeks, at minimum they were half full for all shows. People want to come back to the movie theaters! Our Tenet shows are doing great in presales as well.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    AstonLotus wrote: »
    And can you give it a rest posting links to '' forecasts '' ? Often these things are inaccurate and its kinda tedious.

    Do you mind explaining your logic of not allowing box office links in a thread specifically dedicated to the box office? Or maybe it is best for you to just stop participating in this thread if you don’t want to talk about box office in a box office discussion.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited August 2020 Posts: 8,025
    It's too bad I may never see TENET in theaters, since no indoor theater is allowed to run in California.

    Can't even see THE NEW MUTANTS, which took a hundred years to come out.
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,442
    Tenet did almoost 1,6 million € in first three days in The Netherlands. 149.000 visiters. In January Sam Mendes movie 1917 did a litle bit les with 151.000 people. The movie also get a better start then TDKR in 2012 who did 1,4 million €. Tenet is seen on 137 screens.

    https://www.nu.nl/film/6074284/tenet-breekt-record-beste-openingsweekend-in-bioscoop-ondanks-corona.amp

    Give hope for NTTD, i should remember Skyfall did almoost 25 million in total and Spectre 22 million. Dollars numbers. Whyle those numbers of Tenet also a bit strange with in mind that less people aloud to have a chair and not every cinema have room for maximum of 137 x 100 chairs. Ticket price i expect be € 14,00 / € 14,50, but with 149.000 the price is closer to € 11,00.

    In one or two weaks i think we should expect boxofficemojo numbers and it already be positieve that Trolls 2 even did more money in four weaks then Scooby already did.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    No Time to Die (2020)
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2382320/releaseinfo?ref_=tt_ov_inf
    Release Dates
    France 11 November 2020
    Australia 12 November 2020
    Germany 12 November 2020
    Spain 12 November 2020
    UK 12 November 2020
    Italy 12 November 2020
    Malaysia 12 November 2020
    Netherlands 12 November 2020
    Norway 12 November 2020
    Sweden 12 November 2020
    Singapore 12 November 2020
    Finland 13 November 2020
    Lithuania 13 November 2020
    Turkey 13 November 2020
    Brazil 19 November 2020
    Hungary 19 November 2020
    Russia 19 November 2020
    Slovakia 19 November 2020
    Bulgaria 20 November 2020
    Iceland 20 November 2020
    Japan 20 November 2020
    USA 20 November 2020
    South Korea 25 November 2020
    Argentina 26 November 2020
    Colombia 26 November 2020
    India 26 November 2020
    Portugal 26 November 2020
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    Tenet is sadly underperforming in China. The projected opening weekend of $45 million was lowered to $30 million. Its total theatrical run in China is not looking likely to exceed $50 million.

    Domestic opening weekend projected to be just under $25 mllion.
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 1,394
    Tenet is sadly underperforming in China. The projected opening weekend of $45 million was lowered to $30 million. Its total theatrical run in China is not looking likely to exceed $50 million.

    Domestic opening weekend projected to be just under $25 mllion.

    Tenet actually overperformed over expectations with a 53 million worldwide debut.It was projected at 40 million.

    Sorry,i know you dont like positive news and only insist on being negative.

  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Tenet is sadly underperforming in China. The projected opening weekend of $45 million was lowered to $30 million. Its total theatrical run in China is not looking likely to exceed $50 million.

    Domestic opening weekend projected to be just under $25 mllion.

    Tenet actually overperformed over expectations with a 53 million worldwide debut.It was projected at 40 million.

    I really think you shouldn't comment on this thread anymore since you either 1. get angry that people talk about box office in a box office thread, or 2. you throw numbers around that are meaningless to the current discussion.

    Hence, I ask: why are you mentioning the international debut when we are now talking about the Chinese and US opening weekends?

    If Tenet was going to overperform in China like it did internationally, the projections would be raised, not lowered once Friday numbers were available.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    Posts: 8,034
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Tenet is sadly underperforming in China. The projected opening weekend of $45 million was lowered to $30 million. Its total theatrical run in China is not looking likely to exceed $50 million.

    Domestic opening weekend projected to be just under $25 mllion.

    Tenet actually overperformed over expectations with a 53 million worldwide debut.It was projected at 40 million.

    Sorry,i know you dont like positive news and only insist on being negative.

    This is ironic considering the one causing a negative atmosphere is you with posts like this. Stop being a child. Go enjoy the trailer.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    I had not noticed that second line in his post. I have now flagged that post for his constant bickering.
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Sorry,i know you dont like positive news and only insist on being negative.

    As far as I am concerned, you are no longer welcome in this thread as you add nothing to the discussion apart from personal attacks. And you are becoming extremely tedious. I sincerely hope you never respond to any of my posts again as I am tired of your lies.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,570
    Lets all try and avoid the inflammatory comments folks. this is only going in one direction, so I would like to nip it in the bud.

    Please PM me if you wish to make any further points.
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
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    Regardless of how well Tenet does or not does at the box office and I understand that it's the first major picture back after the long hiatus, I'm still not 100% sure that it needs to be the template that needs to be set for NTTD's box office projections. Outside of the Dark Knight trilogy, Bond has surpassed Nolan's films for the most part. Bond is such more of a World wide phenomenon. Unless i am missing the point about how many theaters around the world are actually open or will be open by mid November.
  • AstonLotus wrote: »
    Tenet is sadly underperforming in China. The projected opening weekend of $45 million was lowered to $30 million. Its total theatrical run in China is not looking likely to exceed $50 million.

    Domestic opening weekend projected to be just under $25 mllion.

    Tenet actually overperformed over expectations with a 53 million worldwide debut.It was projected at 40 million.

    I really think you shouldn't comment on this thread anymore since you either 1. get angry that people talk about box office in a box office thread, or 2. you throw numbers around that are meaningless to the current discussion.

    Hence, I ask: why are you mentioning the international debut when we are now talking about the Chinese and US opening weekends?

    If Tenet was going to overperform in China like it did internationally, the projections would be raised, not lowered once Friday numbers were available.

    Very interesting.

    I said above that Tenet passed it's first test last weekend with flying colours. However, it looks to be faltering this weekend. China was really pegged as its saviour, however, latest tracking has Tenet pulling in $55m across it's entire gross in the middle kingdom. That's pretty dismal.



    So attention moves back to Europe and the USA. The latter is only operating 70% of cinemas, with major hubs in NY and CA out of action. Tenet would be be lucky to clear $25-30m.

    I think if Tenet can clear $200m this weekend overall, then it's release strategy has been a success. Unquestionably. If not, then we may really be playing a very long game here. Which is no bad thing. The odds are that Tenet, Wonder Woman, Black Widow and Bond will be the only films at cinemas this year (and maybe into February next). In that sense, people may not rush out now to see them now, but they will catch them eventually.

    The other two big problems Tenet has are (1) It's not a franchise and has no proven stars; and (2) it isn't very good and word-of -mouth is negative/mixed.

    I think the real saviours of the box office are destined to be Bond (internationally) and Wonder Woman (domestic). Once the latter comes out, we'll get a real impression of how things look.

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    But the latest marketing suggests Eon really are intent on keeping that November date. If Black Widow moves (which may happen as Marvel most likely will shift Black Panther 2 in the wake of Chadwick Boseman's tragic death and Eternals hasn't even started its marketing), then Bond owns November and theatres through to Xmas and into 2021.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    My biggest fear is that by November theaters will be closed again.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    Yesterday, Tenet grossed $4.4 million from all international markets combined (except China and Canada). Canada currently stands at a total of $3.7 million (since August 27th). Its opening day in Russia earned $510,000. Its opening day in China earned $9.5 million (including previews), so it is possible that Tenet will finish it's opening weekend there below $30 million, for a total run of about $55 million (a significant drop from projections earlier this week).

    Tenet currently stands at $68.8 million internationally ($53 million from its opening weekend).
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    matt_u wrote: »
    My biggest fear is that by November theaters will be closed again.

    Yeah, that would be mine too.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,111
    matt_u wrote: »
    My biggest fear is that by November theaters will be closed again.

    Yeah, that would be mine too.

    Me three, I work at one!
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    Posts: 3,157
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    My biggest fear is that by November theaters will be closed again.

    Yeah, that would be mine too.

    Me three, I work at one!

    Me four, and honestly I'd be very annoyed if that happened because our government decided to re-open country borders after we all stayed home for three months.
  • In the UK cases are increasing and we're still in late Summer. My guess is 50/50 as to whether NTTD opens in November

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-coronavirus-hospital-death-toll-133740264.html
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 440
    In the UK cases are increasing and we're still in late Summer. My guess is 50/50 as to whether NTTD opens in November

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-coronavirus-hospital-death-toll-133740264.html

    Absolutely. I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Universal decided to move it to Jurassic World: Dominion's June 11 slot next year.

    Right now we just have to wait and see because release dates and production on new films will be in a state of flux for at least the next 6 months.
  • Posts: 12,268
    Honestly, I hope they just cut their losses at that point if it can’t make it by November and distribute it online. How many more millions can they afford to lose in advertising anyway?
  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    Posts: 4,416
    FoxRox wrote: »
    Honestly, I hope they just cut their losses at that point if it can’t make it by November and distribute it online. How many more millions can they afford to lose in advertising anyway?

    I paid $20 to rent Scoob for my kids, I would seriously pay $100 if they released it online.
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 2,436
    In the UK cases are increasing and we're still in late Summer. My guess is 50/50 as to whether NTTD opens in November

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-coronavirus-hospital-death-toll-133740264.html

    Deaths aren't. Cases are increasing due to more testing (and are still nowhere near the number of cases in Spain and France), and there's some speculation that a number of those cases are actually picking up dead virus from old infections and therefore those cases are not infectious. My guess is that NTTD is 100% coming out in November.
  • Deaths aren't increasing because many of the most vulnerable people are now dead. Younger people are now being affected and they are much less likely to suffer a severe illness. However, this is a dangerous virus. As schools and Universities start back in UK, older members of families will again be vulnerable particularly as Christmas approaches.
  • Deaths aren't increasing because many of the most vulnerable people are now dead. Younger people are now being affected and they are much less likely to suffer a severe illness. However, this is a dangerous virus. As schools and Universities start back in UK, older members of families will again be vulnerable particularly as Christmas approaches.

    To say that many of the most vulnerable people are now dead is frankly ridiculous.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    Tenet going towards an opening weekend in China of just over $30 million. Total run projection now increased from $50 million to $58 million.

    The film should cross $120 million world-wide by tomorrow.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited September 2020 Posts: 15,690
    Tenet opening weekend in China: $35,050,000.

    Tenet US opening weekend: between $9,750,000 to $10,500,000.

    Tenet second international weekend: $52,000,000.

    Tenet current word-wide total: approximately $150,000,000.

    UPDATE: Warner Bros. has finally released the official numbers: Tenet has grossed an estimated $20.2M through Labor Day weekend domestically (including all preview & Canadian grosses).

    That is a 4 day domestic opening weekend of $20,2 million, instead of the normal 3 days. If you remove the Canadian box office results, Tenet has barely grossed $10 million at the US box office this weekend. It was projected to open at $25 million.
  • edited September 2020 Posts: 1,394
    I had not noticed that second line in his post. I have now flagged that post for his constant bickering.
    AstonLotus wrote: »
    Sorry,i know you dont like positive news and only insist on being negative.

    As far as I am concerned, you are no longer welcome in this thread as you add nothing to the discussion apart from personal attacks. And you are becoming extremely tedious. I sincerely hope you never respond to any of my posts again as I am tired of your lies.

    Oh no! daltoncraig doesnt like me and im not welcome in HIS thread ! How will i ever sleep at night.Dont worry by all means continue posting links to articles no one bothers to read!

    By the way,i love the way Pierce2daniel claims Tenet '' isnt very good '' like its a fact,not a statement of opinion.

    I think WB and the other major studios know they are not going to be making big profits ( if any profit ) from any of these big blockbusters.Its all now a case of getting the films out and making as much box office dollars as they can to get SOME return on their investments.Billion dollar movies are a thing of the past now.At least for the next few years in my opinion.
  • AstonLotus wrote: »
    Billion dollar movies are a thing of the past now.At least for the next few years in my opinion.

    I wonder how strong the impact will be on films' budgets. Whether it's a Marvel CGI fest or a practical effects-driven blockbuster like Bond, M:I or Tenet, tent pole films go usually north of $200 million in production costs. Some (e.g. M:I-7 are already filming with an approved gargantuan budget. Surely, they're relying on a full return-to-normal cinema capacity come 2021-22?
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