Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I think "reboot" gets thrown around a lot ("soft reboot", "hard reboot", the term becomes a bit meaningless), without a clear definition. Personally, I wouldn't consider the first film of any of the Bond actors to be reboots, except Craig. If a new actor came in and had a film like LALD, that wouldn't be a reboot, and it wouldn't be hard to avoid. But as @Denbigh said, it could be a chance to do something fresh which probably is needed after Craig.
    Exactly, plus a higher chance of getting more films out of them :)
    Also EON has already taken plenty of inspiration from the Batman universe. Maybe if Pattinson's Batman is successful enough, it will inspire the next-era, as Batman Begins inspired the Craig-era?

    Agreed. Would you say a longer run with one actor is better than multiple shorter runs with different actors? Seems the Connery, Lazenby and Dalton runs are very highly regarded by fans.
    I enjoy either tbh, but I think it's just a matter of if you can get multiple films out of them, why not?

    Yeah. I suppose it's safer.
    I wouldn't say safer because they could easily go for an older actor who they know will only do two films and it could be great, but I think considering how far we've come through the Craig-era, a younger actor would freshen things up a bit and help develop something new.

    This is actually why I think Fukunaga should do this next Bond's first film as he seems to have filled NTTD with this air of freshness and very much feels like modern James Bond - while obviously still honouring what came before (from what we've seen so far I should stress).
  • Denbigh wrote: »
    Also EON has already taken plenty of inspiration from the Batman universe. Maybe if Pattinson's Batman is successful enough, it will inspire the next-era, as Batman Begins inspired the Craig-era?

    Insofar as Reeves himself seems very inspired by Nolan's approach (realism, etc.) with perhaps an additional touch of elements from comic books, I can't see how much Eon could be influenced by this reboot, beside having a younger leading role and a new supporting cast. I even feel like it's Reeves who seems to be inspired by how the Bond series was relaunched with CR, so I don't think The Batman can add much to Bond 26, except maybe the already mentioned two elements. Especially since The Batman will be a hard-reboot.
    If a new actor came in and had a film like LALD, that wouldn't be a reboot, and it wouldn't be hard to avoid. But as @Denbigh said, it could be a chance to do something fresh which probably is needed after Craig.

    I think the most important element on how to judge or not future movies as soft-reboot or loose continuity would be the supporting cast. Like you said, a film like LALD is still a possibility if Fienne, Harris, Kinnear or Whishaw return. But as soon as none of them is brought back and Bond 26 decides not to mention the slightest event of the Craig era, it would be difficult to not see it as a soft-reboot. Anyway, I don't think any of us really want a new origin story. The main thing is to move forward and, as you said, it could be a chance to do something fresh which probably is needed after Craig.

    Personally I would be happy that the new Bond is synonymous with a new supporting cast with the introduction of characters like Loelia Ponsonby, James Molony.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Agent_One wrote: »
    Please, not another reboot.
    It doesn't have to be a reboot - it's like what they're doing with the new Batman with Robert Pattinson. They're reintroducing the character with a "younger" actor but they're not rebooting it in the sense of showing you how he became Batman. The same could work here, a younger actor but we're showing his first mission as a 00.

    I wouldn't mind them doing it with a younger actor, but I also wouldn't want to see a reboot, and to me, if they're showing his first mission as a 00, that's a reboot.

    In both the novels and the films, Bond's first mission is Casino Royale, and should be left that way.

    If they go with a younger actor, fine, just make his first film a mission like any other.

    Exactly.
  • weboffearweboffear Scotland
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    Casino Royale is not Bonds first mission in the novel , he's been doing the job all the way through the second World War , he is a very experienced agent when we met him in the novel
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    weboffear wrote: »
    Casino Royale is not Bonds first mission in the novel , he's been doing the job all the way through the second World War , he is a very experienced agent when we met him in the novel

    In the novel it's more of a setup to the following novels with SMERSH being the main enemy.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Also EON has already taken plenty of inspiration from the Batman universe. Maybe if Pattinson's Batman is successful enough, it will inspire the next-era, as Batman Begins inspired the Craig-era?
    I can't see how much Eon could be influenced by this reboot, beside having a younger leading role and a new supporting cast.
    Exactly, but if this works really well for The Batman, I wouldn't be surprised if EON decide to go down this route.

    Also I'm gonna post this clip again cause I know it might seem far from what we're looking for, but just this whole scene makes me want to see Taylor-Johnson give 007 a go. Although maybe don't watch if we wanna watch Outlaw King at some point. Chris Pine is the lead in this film, and this scene stole the whole show for me.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Got to hit back against the 'Jamie Dornan can't act crowd'. I mean, he's not exactly Lawrence Oliver, but he can certainly act. He was terrific in A Private War; his role is fairly insubstantial but he often does his best work when silently conveying emotion. Especially during the film's final emotional beat in Homs, Syria......It's not a flashy part but it certainly a promising bit of career rehabilitation following the 50 Shades films (which I'm so intrigued to see quite how bad they are).

    Also, Rosamund Pike is a bloody great actress (even when given pretty mundane scripts). Officially starting the campaign to reboot Miranda Frost in Bond 26.

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    Also, Dakota Johnson is hot......Imagine if they cast Dornan as 007 and then Johnson as a Bond girl. That would either be terrific or the worst idea ever. There will be no inbetween.

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    It’s a matter of opinion. You like him and others like myself think that he looks the part but has limited, wooden and limited acting prowess.

    He is an actor because of his looks, not acting talent. IMO.

    You can say this of A LOT of actors. especially folk such as Pierce Brosnan, Henry Cavill, Robert Pattinson, Margot Robbie, Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, etc.

    Some rose to the occasion and displayed the serious acting chops required. On the other hand, others have faltered hugely and shown themselves to just be a pretty face.

    I think Dornan could very well just be that 'pretty face', but there is mounting evidence that he is an actor worth paying attention to.

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    Bar Robert Pattinson I don’t regard those actors you mention as ‘wooden’ though. But I do regard Dornan as such. 🤷‍♂️
  • edited May 2020 Posts: 4,400
    suavejmf wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Got to hit back against the 'Jamie Dornan can't act crowd'. I mean, he's not exactly Lawrence Oliver, but he can certainly act. He was terrific in A Private War; his role is fairly insubstantial but he often does his best work when silently conveying emotion. Especially during the film's final emotional beat in Homs, Syria......It's not a flashy part but it certainly a promising bit of career rehabilitation following the 50 Shades films (which I'm so intrigued to see quite how bad they are).

    Also, Rosamund Pike is a bloody great actress (even when given pretty mundane scripts). Officially starting the campaign to reboot Miranda Frost in Bond 26.

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    Also, Dakota Johnson is hot......Imagine if they cast Dornan as 007 and then Johnson as a Bond girl. That would either be terrific or the worst idea ever. There will be no inbetween.

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    It’s a matter of opinion. You like him and others like myself think that he looks the part but has limited, wooden and limited acting prowess.

    He is an actor because of his looks, not acting talent. IMO.

    You can say this of A LOT of actors. especially folk such as Pierce Brosnan, Henry Cavill, Robert Pattinson, Margot Robbie, Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, etc.

    Some rose to the occasion and displayed the serious acting chops required. On the other hand, others have faltered hugely and shown themselves to just be a pretty face.

    I think Dornan could very well just be that 'pretty face', but there is mounting evidence that he is an actor worth paying attention to.

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    Bar Robert Pattinson I don’t regard those actors you mention as ‘wooden’ though. But I do regard Dornan as such. 🤷‍♂️

    Pattinson is one of the most exciting and terrific actors working today. If you haven't seen Good Time, High-Life or The Lighthouse yet, then I recommend you spend some time in quarantine correcting that.

    If Pattinson wasn't Batman already, he'd be my No.1 choice for Bond. In fact, the Batman fans are in turmoil that Batman has decided to not be an overly-muscly Batman. Some are even saying Pattinson should step down from the role.


    I love Batman as a character, but it be a dream if he ditched Batman and went to Bond. Even the one-time Bond 25 director, Danny Boyle thought Pattinson had what it took to be be 007.


    Daniel Craig was a 'Steve McQueen style' Bond. Pattinson would of been a 'James Dean style' Bond.

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    But he's Batman, so I think Dornan would be a terrific choice...........................

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    Or....Richard Madden figures out a way to grow a few more inches.

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  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    I’d be far, far happier with Pattinson than with Dornan.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Yeah Pattinson would've been a great possible Bond, but he'll be Batman no matter what these fanboys complain about. He's gonna be a good Batman, and the fact that he'll have some Bondian-looking Bruce Wayne moments are enough for me to let him go as a possible choice. Plus with Kravitz as his Catwoman, it's gonna be a great project.
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    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.
    You never know any of the younger actors that's been mentioned could potentially grow into someone you see as Bond in the next decade?
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.
    You never know any of the younger actors that's been mentioned could potentially grow into someone you see as Bond in the next decade?
    Perhaps, @Denbigh. I don't know. But right now...nop, none, not one.
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.

    I don’t think you have anything to worry about. I’m on the same page as you.
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    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.

    I don’t think you have anything to worry about. I’m on the same page as you.

    Same here to be honest.

    Although maybe now is time for me to suggest me son again. He's three and a half so at this rate he'll have the right age when the role is available.
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    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.

    Precisely. Trying to envision Robert Pattinson as Bond for me is like trying to picture Keanu Reeves as an appropriate choice back in the '90's.
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    I watched The Man Who Killed Hitler and then the Bigfoot yesterday and Aiden Turner's first scene made me quite like the idea of him as Bond. Even though he only says one word, in German.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    I have seen most of pattison film's as ladies i know like to watch him. Didn't saw anything remotely bondian in him neither does dornan. Richard Madden Maybe but his height create a problem for me, although he does have very commanding voice. Turner is still first choice for me.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    I’ve been watching ‘The Great’ with Nicholas Hoult and Elle Fanning.
    I’m starting to see Hoult as a very strong potential contender.
    Good actor, growing into his looks and looking a lot less childlike.
    Can do humour, drama and action.
    Also has a descent resume of work, without pricing himself out of the role. I suggested him several years ago. I think now or soon could be the time for him to make the role.
  • Although he is not my first choice either, Hoult has his youth in his favor. Being only 30 now, he would still be able to perform the role, and this for a long term, if Bond 26 were to go to production in three or four years. He may be a little too youthful today, but that will undoubtedly change over the next few years. I have no doubt that Eon will eventually consider him.
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.

    Precisely. Trying to envision Robert Pattinson as Bond for me is like trying to picture Keanu Reeves as an appropriate choice back in the '90's.

    I'm sure Keanu Reeves was mentioned by some gossip columns back in the days. I see two arguments for him: 1)he'd attract barely pubescent teenage girls. 2)he's Canadian so not American.

    For the record I know they're rubbish ones.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    Posts: 5,131
    suavejmf wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Got to hit back against the 'Jamie Dornan can't act crowd'. I mean, he's not exactly Lawrence Oliver, but he can certainly act. He was terrific in A Private War; his role is fairly insubstantial but he often does his best work when silently conveying emotion. Especially during the film's final emotional beat in Homs, Syria......It's not a flashy part but it certainly a promising bit of career rehabilitation following the 50 Shades films (which I'm so intrigued to see quite how bad they are).

    Also, Rosamund Pike is a bloody great actress (even when given pretty mundane scripts). Officially starting the campaign to reboot Miranda Frost in Bond 26.

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    Also, Dakota Johnson is hot......Imagine if they cast Dornan as 007 and then Johnson as a Bond girl. That would either be terrific or the worst idea ever. There will be no inbetween.

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    It’s a matter of opinion. You like him and others like myself think that he looks the part but has limited, wooden and limited acting prowess.

    He is an actor because of his looks, not acting talent. IMO.

    You can say this of A LOT of actors. especially folk such as Pierce Brosnan, Henry Cavill, Robert Pattinson, Margot Robbie, Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, George Clooney, etc.

    Some rose to the occasion and displayed the serious acting chops required. On the other hand, others have faltered hugely and shown themselves to just be a pretty face.

    I think Dornan could very well just be that 'pretty face', but there is mounting evidence that he is an actor worth paying attention to.

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    Bar Robert Pattinson I don’t regard those actors you mention as ‘wooden’ though. But I do regard Dornan as such. 🤷‍♂️

    Pattinson is one of the most exciting and terrific actors working today. If you haven't seen Good Time, High-Life or The Lighthouse yet, then I recommend you spend some time in quarantine correcting that.

    If Pattinson wasn't Batman already, he'd be my No.1 choice for Bond. In fact, the Batman fans are in turmoil that Batman has decided to not be an overly-muscly Batman. Some are even saying Pattinson should step down from the role.


    I love Batman as a character, but it be a dream if he ditched Batman and went to Bond. Even the one-time Bond 25 director, Danny Boyle thought Pattinson had what it took to be be 007.


    Daniel Craig was a 'Steve McQueen style' Bond. Pattinson would of been a 'James Dean style' Bond.

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    But he's Batman, so I think Dornan would be a terrific choice...........................

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    Or....Richard Madden figures out a way to grow a few more inches.

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    I disagree. Comparing Pattinson to Dean is laughable. ‘The Batman’ is yer to be released and it’s success and performance is TBC.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I don't like a single one, not one of them. I can't see anyone playing Bond now. I hope someone interesting will pop up in the next decade.

    Precisely. Trying to envision Robert Pattinson as Bond for me is like trying to picture Keanu Reeves as an appropriate choice back in the '90's.

    👏👏
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I think Aidan Turner is becoming less like Bond as he gets older.
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    Again with the James Dean nonsense. The guy was a quintessentially American bad boy, and we're talking about a lookalike to play our man Bond? Utter nonsense.

    There isn't a single candidate that looks the part or is an apt promise in itself.

    If people want a thread to talk about how cute boys are, do create one, alright? Bond is not about cuteness or handsomeness, as Craig so aptly showed us for the past 13 odd years.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Just let people talk about they want - if you don't agree, fine. We don't have to police every single message. Some people could see Robert as Bond, some people don't. Some people see Aidan as Bond, some people don't. It's as easy as that.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Fair enough.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    I was gonna post this in a discussion but I'm just gonna put it here. So this includes one of my top choices for James Bond, Callum Turner, although I know a lot of you are sceptical about him, I just think he has a lot of potential, and could be a possible dark horse. But I've also included some other choices I'd go for - for other characters.

    The other cast I would choose includes Lennie James as M, Vanessa Kirby as Moneypenny, Riz Ahmed as Q, Joel Edgerton as Felix Leiter, and Daniel Bruhl as Ernst Stavro Blofeld. I think the only thing about this that is unrealistic is Callum and Vanessa appearing in those roles together, as they used to date, so I don't think that would end up happening, but I believe these would be pretty solid choices.

    Some of you may have seen this before by the way.

    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098102981/
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
    edited May 2020 Posts: 7,526
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I was gonna post this in a discussion but I'm just gonna put it here. So this includes one of my top choices for James Bond, Callum Turner, although I know a lot of you are sceptical about him, I just think he has a lot of potential, and could be a possible dark horse. But I've also included some other choices I'd go for - for other characters.

    The other cast I would choose includes Lennie James as M, Vanessa Kirby as Moneypenny, Riz Ahmed as Q, Joel Edgerton as Felix Leiter, and Daniel Bruhl as Ernst Stavro Blofeld. I think the only thing about this that is unrealistic is Callum and Vanessa appearing in those roles together, as they used to date, so I don't think that would end up happening, but I believe these would be pretty solid choices.

    Some of you may have seen this before by the way.

    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098102981/

    Looks like he could be a good Gustav Graves when he grows up. ;)

    Reminds me a little of Simon Quarterman from Westworld for some reason.
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0702945/?ref_=tt_cl_t10
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited May 2020 Posts: 5,869
    Denbigh wrote: »
    I was gonna post this in a discussion but I'm just gonna put it here. So this includes one of my top choices for James Bond, Callum Turner, although I know a lot of you are sceptical about him, I just think he has a lot of potential, and could be a possible dark horse. But I've also included some other choices I'd go for - for other characters.

    The other cast I would choose includes Lennie James as M, Vanessa Kirby as Moneypenny, Riz Ahmed as Q, Joel Edgerton as Felix Leiter, and Daniel Bruhl as Ernst Stavro Blofeld. I think the only thing about this that is unrealistic is Callum and Vanessa appearing in those roles together, as they used to date, so I don't think that would end up happening, but I believe these would be pretty solid choices.

    Some of you may have seen this before by the way.

    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls098102981/

    Looks like he could be a good Gustav Graves when he grows up. ;)

    Reminds me a little of Simon Quarterman from Westworld for some reason.
    https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0702945/?ref_=tt_cl_t10
    I think it's just his face a little, but apart from that they're very different haha :D
    I just Callum Turner has something, like I've said before, I wouldn't cast him now, but in four or five years time, I think he'd be great and could potentially be a mixture of Craig and Brosnan in terms of tone and style. This image was six years ago, and he's become a bit more of a leading man already in a few years so given more I think we have a potential James Bond. He has a good voice too - again in my opinion.

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