Rate the Various Categories - The Films!!! 2021 - Final Community Ratings

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  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Community Ratings 2016 -

    1. From Russia With Love – 91.8%
    2. Casino Royale – 90.13%
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.94%
    4. Goldfinger – 81.87%
    5. Dr. No – 80.88%
    6. The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    7. GoldenEye – 80.12%
    8. For Your Eyes Only – 79.6%
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    10. Octopussy – 77.73%
    11. Skyfall – 77.39%
    12. Live and Let Die - 76.88 %
    13. Licence To Kill – 76.18%
    14. You Only Live Twice – 76%
    15. Quantum of Solace – 74%
    16. Thunderball – 73.27%
    17. Spectre – 72.60%
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies – 72.22%
    19. A View To A Kill – 71.77%
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    21. The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    22. Diamonds Are Forever – 68.95%
    23. Moonraker – 66.81%   
    24. Casino Royale, ‘54 – 62.68%
    25. Casino Royale, ‘67 - 58.53%
    26. Die Another Day – 49.96%

    Die Another Day is still last.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited November 2016 Posts: 4,422
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 6 (is this the director who helmed The Empire Strikes Back?)
    2. Screenplay – 6 
    3. Script – 7 (although the best line was recycled from an episode of Porridge!)
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond – 9 
    9. Sets – 5
    10. Music – 2 (simply woeful)
    11. Cinematography – 5 (lacks the EON polish)
    12. Fleming - 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 1
    15. Plausibility -3
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 2
    18. Tilt – 2 (only to be re-watched for Connery's performance)


    84/150 =56 % 

    Royale's Ranking -

    1. From Russia With Love – 94.66%
    2. Casino Royale – 94.66%
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 92.66%
    4. Goldfinger – 91.33%
    5. Dr. No – 88.66%
    6. Licence to Kill – 85.33%
    7. Octopussy – 84.66%
    8. The Living Daylights – 84%
    9. Skyfall – 83.33%
    10. Thunderball – 82.66%
    11. For Your Eyes Only – 82.66%
    12. The Spy Who Loved Me – 82%
    13. Quantum of Solace – 81.33%
    14. Tomorrow Never Dies – 80.66%
    15. Spectre – 79.33%
    16. GoldenEye – 79.33%
    17. You Only Live Twice – 79.33%
    18. Live and Let Die – 78%
    19. The World Is Not Enough – 74.66%
    20. Moonraker – 72.66%
    21. Diamonds Are Forever – 72.66%
    22. A View To A Kill – 68.66%
    23. The Man With The Golden Gun – 67.33%
    24. Die Another Day – 62.66%
    25. Casino Royale ‘54 - 57.93%
    26. Never Say Never Again - 56%
    27. Casino Royale '67 - 38.66%

  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,553
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 5
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 5
    4. Plot – 5
    5. Action - 5
    6. Main Villain – 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 9
    9. Sets – 6
    10. Music – 1
    11. Cinematography – 3
    12. Fleming - 8

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles - 1
    15. Plausibility - 2
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 1


    82/150 = 66,00%

    DD's Ranking

    Casino Royale, 2006 - 93,33%
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service, 1969 - 92,66%
    GoldenEye, 1995 - 86,00%
    Skyfall, 2012 - 84,00%
    The Living Daylights, 1987 - 83,33%
    Dr. No, 1962 – 82.67%
    From Russia With Love, 1963 - 82,00%
    Spectre, 2015 - 81,33%
    For Your Eyes Only - 80,00%
    Thunderball, 1965 - 79,33%
    Octopussy, 1983 - 78,66%
    Goldfinger, 1964 - 78,00%
    Licence To Kill, 1989 - 77,33%
    Quantum Of Solace, 2008 - 76,67%
    Moonraker, 1979 - 75,33%
    You Only Live Twice, 1967 - 74,67%
    TomorrowNeverDies, 1997 - 74,00%
    The Spy Who Loved Me, 1977 - 71,33%
    Live And Let Die, 1973 - 67,33%
    Diamonds Are Forever, 1971 - 66,67%
    Casino Royale, 1967 - 66,00%
    A View To A Kill, 1985 - 66,00%
    Casino Royale, 1954 - 64,33%
    Die Another Day, 2002 - 62,00%
    The World Is Not Enough, 1999 - 60,67%
    The Man With The Golden Gun, 1974 - 60,00%
    Never Say Never Again, 1983 - 54,67%
  • edited November 2016 Posts: 4,025
    @Birdleson - you've missed out the Bond category in your list
  • Major_BoothroydMajor_Boothroyd Republic of Isthmus
    edited November 2016 Posts: 2,721
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 7 (Kershner does good work in sections here. Some parts of this really move. But overall it sags a bit. Although he gets great performances from the lead hero and villains. He captures the 'benign bizarre' very well in this with some creepy scenes - heroin addiction, Fatima seducing Bond, death in the waterbed.)

    2. Screenplay – 5 (The Shrublands sequence is superior to Thunderball's. In fact I enjoy the first half hour of NSNA more than I do TB's. But the final third here is still a problem - very underwhelming.)

    3. Script – 6 (The gyroscopic cigarette case scene is as good as anything in official Bond. Largo vs Bond is always good. And Fatima Blush is delivering over-the-top dialogue. Bond's cheekiness works here a lot better too. 'Free radicals' etc.)

    4. Plot – 6 (Doesn't have the scope of Thunderball, but moves quicker.)

    5. Action - 5 (I like the fight at Shrublands and the bike chase - otherwise it's a little forgettable)

    6. Main Villain – 9 (One of the highlights of this film. Klaus Maria Brandeur is great fun. Fresh of 'Mephisto' and challenging Connery in many scenes. The character information he gets across without dialogue is impressive.)

    7. Main Bond Girl - 6 (Basinger is adequate in this. In many ways her younger/older romance with Connery is more believable than a lot of Moore's around this time period - but that's not saying too much I guess)

    8. Bond – 8 (Connery's most fun performance since Thunderball - funnily enough.)

    9. Sets – 5 (I like the Domination game and casino scene - but the rest of it doesn't stand out)

    10. Music – 2 (The music is forgettable. If only the title track was! I'll bet that is the catchy hook that plays when you ride the elevator in hell.)

    11. Cinematography – 6 (Decent. Has some very good moments.)

    12. Fleming - 6 (but high 8 or 9 for 'McClory'. This follows the original script fairly closely.)

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5 (Fatima, Blofeld, Alergnon and M are all good fun.)
    14. Main Titles - 1 (Non existent really)
    15. Plausibility - 3 (I guess as plausible as TB?)
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 2

    89/150 = 59.30

    I've always had a little soft spot for NSNA. It's rewatchable. And as a kid this was the only Bond film they replayed on the TV in my country (they didn't have the rights obviously to EON's films) and in my town you could only get this, AVTAK and then TLD on VHS for my first two or three years of Bond fever - so I rewatched this quite often. I think the Shrublands sequence is a highlight.
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    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 5
    2. Screenplay – 6
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 8
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 6
    10. Music – 5
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming - 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 1
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 2

    93/150
    62%
  • GBFGBF
    edited November 2016 Posts: 3,195
    @DarthDimi

    I guess it is 54,66%
  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    GBF wrote: »
    @DarthDimi

    I guess it is 54,66%
    Ah I see you have it correct in your ranking


  • GBFGBF
    Posts: 3,195
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 6
    2. Screenplay – 5
    3. Script – 6
    4. Plot – 6
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 7
    7. Main Bond Girl - 6
    8. Bond – 7
    9. Sets – 5
    10. Music – 6 (the title song is horrible but the rest is OK)
    11. Cinematography – 6
    12. Fleming - 6

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 2 (ok it has none)
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 3
    18. Tilt – 3

    90/150
    60%
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,790
    Never Say Never Again, 1983

    /10
    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 7
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action — 7
    6. Main Villain – 8
    7. Main Bond Girl — 7
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography – 8
    12. Fleming — 7

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles — 2
    15. Plausibility — 3
    16. Pace — 3
    17. Editing — 3
    18. Tilt – 3

    107/150

    71,33 %

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    From Russia with Love (1963) - 92
    Goldfinger (1964) - 88
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service (1969)/Licence to Kill (1989) - 86,67
    The Living Daylights (1987)/GoldenEye (1995) - 82
    You Only Live Twice (1967)/The Spy Who Loved Me (1977)/Casino Royale (2006) - 75,33
    Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) - 74,67
    Dr. No (1962) - 74
    The Man with the Golden Gun (1974) - 73,33
    Never Say Never Again (1983) - 71,33
    Thunderball (1965)/Skyfall (2012) - 70
    The World Is Not Enough (1999) - 68,67
    Quantum of Solace (2008)/A View to a Kill (1985) - 68
    Octopussy (1983) - 66
    Live and Let Die (1973) - 64
    For Your Eyes Only (1981) - 63,33
    Spectre (2015) - 61,33
    Diamonds Are Forever (1971) - 59,33
    Moonraker (1979) - 57,33
    Die Another Day (2002) - 54,67
    Casino Royale (1967) - 54
    Casino Royale (1954) - 53,33
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,790
    Surprised about NSNA topping TB in my ratings
  • Posts: 4,025
    Never Say Never Again

    1. Direction – 7
    2. Screenplay – 7
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 8
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 3
    11. Cinematography – 9
    12. Fleming - 8

    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles - 2
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 4

    Total - 108/150 = 72.67%

    vzok's ranking:

    From Russia With Love - 94
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 92
    Casino Royale - 86
    Octopussy - 82
    Spectre - 80.67
    The Living Daylights - 80
    Diamonds Are Forever - 78
    Live And Let Die - 78
    For Your Eyes Only - 76.67
    Licence To Kill - 76.67
    GoldenEye - 74
    Skyfall - 74
    A View To A Kill - 74
    Never Say Never Again - 72.67
    You Only Live Twice - 70.67
    Dr No - 69.33
    Quantum Of Solace - 68
    Goldfinger - 68
    Thunderball - 67.33
    Moonraker - 66
    Tomorrow Never Dies - 66
    Casino Royale 54 - 64.67
    The Spy Who Loved Me - 64.67
    Casino Royale 67 - 60
    The World Is Not Enough - 60
    The Man With The Golden Gun - 58
    Die Another Day - 56.67
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Any more voters out there, I do wonder?
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Never Say Never Again

    1. Direction – 5
    2. Screenplay – 4
    3. Script – 4
    4. Plot – 4
    5. Action - 4
    6. Main Villain – 5
    7. Main Bond Girl - 3
    8. Bond – 5
    9. Sets – 7
    10. Music – 1
    11. Cinematography – 5
    12. Fleming - 5

    13. Supporting Cast – 3
    14. Main Titles - 1
    15. Plausibility - 3
    16. Pace - 2
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 1

    66/150=44%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    Community Ratings 2016 -

    1. From Russia With Love – 91.8%
    2. Casino Royale – 90.13%
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.94%
    4. Goldfinger – 81.87%
    5. Dr. No – 80.88%
    6. The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    7. GoldenEye – 80.12%
    8. For Your Eyes Only – 79.6%
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    10. Octopussy – 77.73%
    11. Skyfall – 77.39%
    12. Live and Let Die - 76.88 %
    13. Licence To Kill – 76.18%
    14. You Only Live Twice – 76%
    15. Quantum of Solace – 74%
    16. Thunderball – 73.27%
    17. Spectre – 72.60%
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies – 72.22%
    19. A View To A Kill – 71.77%
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    21. The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    22. Diamonds Are Forever – 68.95%
    23. Moonraker – 66.81%   
    24. Casino Royale, ‘54 – 62.68%
    25. Never Say Never Again - 60.96%
    26. Casino Royale, ‘67 - 58.53%
    27. Die Another Day – 49.96%

    That's it folks!
  • Posts: 3,336
    DAD is a much better film then CR 67.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
    Posts: 45,489
    DAD is a much better film then CR 67.

    I wouldn t say that. I think they are equally bad.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,553
    I rather like the ranking. With several if not all of my favourite Bonds firmly in the top 10... Hm... perhaps I would have put QOS and SP in there too, replacing Spy and 8Pussy perhaps. Uh... doesn't matter.

    @royale65, thank you for hosting this thread, sir! :)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,422
    The pleasure was all mine.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 23,553
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Great came @royale65 , thank you.

    @royale65 came?

    I was enjoying the game while I played it but not that much.
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Once again, bravo, sir @royale65!
  • Posts: 4,025
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    Birdleson wrote: »
    Great came @royale65 , thank you.

    @royale65 came?

    I was enjoying the game while I played it but not that much.

    You just weren't doing it right.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    edited January 2021 Posts: 4,422
    Five years since we last done this? How time flies.

    For reference -

    Community Ratings 2016 -

    1. From Russia With Love – 91.8%
    2. Casino Royale – 90.13%
    3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service – 89.94%
    4. Goldfinger – 81.87%
    5. Dr. No – 80.88%
    6. The Living Daylights – 80.73%
    7. GoldenEye – 80.12%
    8. For Your Eyes Only – 79.6%
    9. The Spy Who Loved Me – 78.59%
    10. Octopussy – 77.73%
    11. Skyfall – 77.39%
    12. Live and Let Die - 76.88 %
    13. Licence To Kill – 76.18%
    14. You Only Live Twice – 76%
    15. Quantum of Solace – 74%
    16. Thunderball – 73.27%
    17. Spectre – 72.60%
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies – 72.22%
    19. A View To A Kill – 71.77%
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun – 69.6%
    21. The World Is Not Enough – 69.03%
    22. Diamonds Are Forever – 68.95%
    23. Moonraker – 66.81%
    24. Casino Royale, ‘54 – 62.68%
    25. Never Say Never Again - 60.96%
    26. Casino Royale, ‘67 - 58.53%
    27. Die Another Day – 49.96%

    Community Ratings, 2014

    1. From Russia With Love - 92.0083%
    2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service - 88.50%
    3. Casino Royale - 87.85%
    4. The Spy Who Loved Me - 80.83%
    5. GoldenEye - 78.94%
    6. Dr No- 78.7%
    7. The Living Daylights - 78.61%
    8. For Your Eyes Only - 77.68%
    9. Thunderball - 77.47%
    10. Goldfinger - 77.23%
    11. Licence To Kill - 77.04%
    12. Octopussy - 76.61%
    13. Skyfall - 75.4%
    14. Live and Let Die - 74.52%
    15. A View To A Kill - 72.22%
    16. You Only Live Twice - 70.27%
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies - 70.20%
    18. Moonraker - 67.4%
    19. The World Is Not Enough - 63.85%
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun - 61.33%
    21. Quantum of Solace - 59.40%
    22. Diamonds Are Forever - 56.05% 
    23. Never Say Never Again – 53.08%
    24. Casino Royale 1954 - 52.24%
    25. Die Another Day - 39.92% 
    26. Casino Royale '67 - 34.5%

    The top three are pretty much entrenched. But the other films fluctuate somewhat. I'm surprised that TB didn't do as well I expected on the 2016 ranking. Will SP sink or swim, now that it's been over 5 years since its release?

    Yes, it is back for 2021. Will we see a new Bond in theatres this year? Probably not, but let’s have some fun. And it’s been 5 years since we last done one of these. Time to remedy that, methinks.

    In this thread gentle readers, and like it's sister threads, Rate The Various Categories – The Musical Scores! and ”Rate The Various Categories – The Fleming Novels! ” we are going to do a little experiment. I have always loved numbers, and I think I have devised a good way in order to rate and rank the Bond films, in imperial ratings;

    I want us to rate the following categories, out of ten -

    1. Direction (does the director do a good job?)
    2. Screenplay (the written form of a movie that also includes instructions on how it is to be acted and filmed. Is the screenplay balanced, or is it too inconsistent or erratic?)
    3. Script (A script contains the words, dialogue, actions for a film. DAF has an excellent script, but it has an average screenplay, just to give you some examples)
    4. Plot
    5. Action
    6. Main Villain
    7. Main Bond Girl
    8. Bond
    9. Sets
    10. Music
    11. Cinematography
    12. Fleming (does the film capture the spirit of Ian Fleming?)

    And these categories, these can make a good film into a great film, out of five -

    13. Supporting Cast
    14. Main Titles
    15. Plausibility
    16. Pace
    17. Editing (e.g. QoS has iffy editing. I wanted to include this to differentiate between the directions and editors)
    18. Tilt (this category is a reflection of how you feel, just to provide a little human touch)

    Given us a grand total of 150.

    This way I think we have found a good idea of how our community feels about certain Bond films, quantitative anyways... . In time, how does this differ from your own personal rankings? I hope to generate some good discussions. Sort of gut feeling into numbers. I know it is a waste of time trying to rate and rank the Bond films such, but I was trying to have some empirical evidence in our discussions, to see what our rankings were like, and if they match our my/yours rankings. And please, try to be objective in your reasons.

    I shall be hosting one RANDOM film per week, including the non – official Bond films and the TV film adaption of
    CR ‘54.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    It's back baby!

    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9 (Young deserves maximum praise. Dips slightly during the countdown sequence in Dr. No’s lair)
    2. Screenplay – 9
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond – 9 (Even if he was a bit too uncouth with certain characters)
    9. Sets – 9 (Phenomenal from Adam, belying the modest budget.)
    10. Music – 6 (The one thing I can criticise this film for. Still, at least we got the Bond Theme)
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming – 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 5
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt – 5

    127/150 = 84.66%

    Royale's Ranking -
    1. Dr No – 84.66%

    Have at it peeps.
  • Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 8
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 9
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 9
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 7
    11. Cinematography - 9
    12. Fleming – 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 4
    17. Editing -4
    18. Tilt – 5

    130/150 = 84.66%

    GeneralGogol's Ranking -
    1. Dr No – 86.67%
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    Posts: 6,790
    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 7
    5. Action - 6
    6. Main Villain – 9
    7. Main Bond Girl - 8
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 9
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 10

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 4
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing -3
    18. Tilt – 4

    121/150 = 80.66%

    GoldenGun's Ranking -
    1. Dr No – 80.66%
  • R1s1ngs0nR1s1ngs0n France
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    Dr. No, 1962

    /10
    1. Direction – 9
    2. Screenplay – 8
    3. Script – 9
    4. Plot – 8
    5. Action - 7
    6. Main Villain – 10
    7. Main Bond Girl - 7
    8. Bond – 10
    9. Sets – 10
    10. Music – 6
    11. Cinematography - 8
    12. Fleming – 9

    /5
    13. Supporting Cast – 4
    14. Main Titles – 5
    15. Plausibility - 4
    16. Pace - 3
    17. Editing - 4
    18. Tilt – 4

    Final Score: 83,33%
  • M_BaljeM_Balje Amsterdam, Netherlands
    edited January 2021 Posts: 4,444
    One litle note: I wish we can use 0.5 points too, so we can give 2.5 (5/10) 3.5 (7/10) or 4.5 (9/10) for last 6 or for example can give 7.5 or 8.5. Let me us know that and tell again how it work with the %.


  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Great to see you chaps again.
    M_Balje wrote: »
    One litle note: I wish we can use 0.5 points too, so we can give 2.5 (5/10) 3.5 (7/10) or 4.5 (9/10) for last 6 or for example can give 7.5 or 8.5. Let me us know that and tell again how it work with the %.


    I'd prefer if you used whole numbers, but half points are acceptable. (But don't expect me to count up your 8.2467565/10)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Mid week bump!!
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