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  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    WillyGalore wrote:
    Shoreline wrote:
    1. Goldeneye
    2. Thunderball
    3. For Your Eyes Only
    4. Dr No
    5. The World Is Not Enough
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Casino Royal
    8. From Russia With Love
    9. Tomorrow Never Dies
    10. License To Kill
    11. The Living Daylights
    12. Skyfall
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Octopussy
    15. Die Another Day
    16. The Man With The Golden Gun
    17. Live And Let Die
    18. Moonraker
    19. A View To A Kill
    20. You Only Live Twice
    21. Quantum Of Solace
    22. Diamonds Are Forever


    23. On Her Majestys Secret Service

    That's certainly going to stir up a debate ;-)

    As will #15 ;)

    I give him credit for one thing though- at least he isn't trying to convince himself that NSNA or CR54 or CR67 are actually Bond films worthy of inclusion in his rankings.

    Apart from the obviously farcical position of OHMSS I find it rather difficult to know what to say about this.

    He has DN, FYEO, FRWL and CR, which are some of the most Flemingesque films, all top 10 but then OHMSS down there. Rather schizophrenic.

    Clearly some sort of Brosnan die hard (which I suppose is fair enough) as he inexplicably has DAD midtable and the others all in the top 10.

    But OHMSS bottom and with an ignominious gap pointedly left to denote not only bottom but bottom by miles? Its so tragic I can't in all conscience berate him. I actually just feel pity for him.




  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    To actually think that there are 8, yes count em 8, Bond films worse than DAD? The mind boggles.
  • ShorelineShoreline
    Posts: 251
    If I want Fleming, I read the books.
    I find the films an entirely different thing altogether.
    The fact is I find DAD no more over the top than many of the Bond films, but ranking the bottom ten is tricky, with the exception of OHMSS, which is handicapped by a chimp lookalike in the leading role, who really can't act.
    You should not feel the need to berate people who have a different opinion yo yours, you may find life gets hard for you!
  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,400
    Really? A CHIMP lookalike? Don't jump on the bandwagon too hard, kid. You might break it.

    The man was the highest paid male model in the world at the time.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    Posts: 2,044
    1) Casino Royale
    2) From Russia With Love
    3) Skyfall
    4) Thunderball
    5) The Man With The Golden Gun
    6) Quantum of Solace
    7) Licence To Kill
    8 ) Dr. No
    9) On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    10) Goldeneye
    11) Goldfinger
    12) You Only Live Twice
    13) Live And Let Die
    14) Die Another Day
    15) The Living Daylights
    16) Octopussy
    17) The Spy Who Loved Me
    18) Tomorrow Never Dies
    19) Diamonds Are Forever
    20) For Your Eyes Only
    21) Moonraker
    22) The World Is Not Enough
    23) A View To A Kill
  • ShorelineShoreline
    Posts: 251
    StirredNotShaken wrote:
    Really? A CHIMP lookalike? Don't jump on the bandwagon too hard, kid. You might break it.

    The man was the highest paid male model in the world at the time.

    I am not aware if a not liking Lazenby bandwagon around here, quite the opposite!!!
    I don't mind if you disagree, they are only opinions at the end of the day.

  • StirredNotShakenStirredNotShaken Toronto
    Posts: 2,400
    Not on here, but the bandwagon is certainly there amongst the public.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    edited September 2013 Posts: 9,117
    Shoreline wrote:
    If I want Fleming, I read the books.
    I find the films an entirely different thing altogether.
    The fact is I find DAD no more over the top than many of the Bond films, but ranking the bottom ten is tricky, with the exception of OHMSS, which is handicapped by a chimp lookalike in the leading role, who really can't act.
    You should not feel the need to berate people who have a different opinion yo yours, you may find life gets hard for you!

    Yeah because having a 'chimp' (Gareth Bale as the next Bond? You read it here first) in the role makes the Fleming faithful script, Barrys epic music, fantastic photography, brilliant direction and phenomenal stuntwork all completely redundant doesnt it?

    Much better to have a clothes horse in the role, an invisible car, a travesty of a Bond girl, a diabolical title song and CGI layered on like make up on a 47 year old Reeperbahn whore.

    We all have our favourite and least favourite actors as Bond but that alone is only one aspect of a Bond film. Personally I would say DAD is probably Brozza's most accomplished performance in the role but that doesnt help prevent the film being a total abortion. Similarly, however much you hate Lazenby, having a chimp in the role is not enough to drag OHMSS beneath DAD and DAF and quite a number of the other 20 films.

    This is a perfect demonstration of why the phrase 'everyone is entitled to their opinion' shouldnt be used as a get out of jail free card for being a moron. This guy is allowed to vote for Christ's sake! Do you trust Shoreline's judgement to decide who should have their finger on the button?

    And I think you'll find I didnt berate you old chap. I pitied you.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    My own very simple take on OHMSS is that if you can't look past "the chimp" (a bit too far even for me) you're missing the rest of the scenery on a exciting yet touching journey in the life of Bond. Which is a fantastic and quite Fleming faithful film loaded with a highly skilled cast who give perhaps the best movie performances of their collective careers, innovative aerial cinematography, a solid director with an advanced eye for putting scenes together, and a bang up soundtrack.

    It's no secret that I regard Lazenby as little more than an action star, which requires little to no acting skills and just the ability to move and fight impressively, and have been on said bandwagon since 1969. He's still the worst of the six Bond actors in my view. But as @Wiz relates, consistent with my own philosophy on Bond films, the lead actor is only one aspect and a Bond movie cannot be fairly judged on that alone.


  • CraterGunsCraterGuns
    edited September 2013 Posts: 615
    My Revised Rankings (official EON franchise + NSNA)

    01. Casino Royale
    02. Goldfinger
    03. From Russia With Love
    04. Skyfall
    05. The Living Daylights
    06. Thunderball
    07. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    08. The Spy Who Loved Me
    09. GoldenEye
    10. Licence to Kill
    11. Dr. No
    12. Quantum of Solace
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. Tomorrow Never Dies
    15. You Only Live Twice
    16. Live and Let Die
    17. Diamonds Are Forever
    18. The Man With the Golden Gun
    19. The World Is Not Enough
    20. A View to a Kill
    21. Octopussy
    22. Moonraker
    23. Die Another Day
    24. Never Say Never Again
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    My own very simple take on OHMSS is that if you can't look past "the chimp" (a bit too far even for me) you're missing the rest of the scenery on a exciting yet touching journey in the life of Bond. Which is a fantastic and quite Fleming faithful film loaded with a highly skilled cast who give perhaps the best movie performances of their collective careers, innovative aerial cinematography, a solid director with an advanced eye for putting scenes together, and a bang up soundtrack.

    It's no secret that I regard Lazenby as little more than an action star, which requires little to no acting skills and just the ability to move and fight impressively, and have been on said bandwagon since 1969. He's still the worst of the six Bond actors in my view. But as @Wiz relates, consistent with my own philosophy on Bond films, the lead actor is only one aspect and a Bond movie cannot be fairly judged on that alone.


    As someone who I know is utterly immune to any merits people might see in Laz, I regard these words by SirHenry as pretty fatal to any last vestiges of hope Shoreline might have had for his deranged argument.

    If you cant even get SirHenry on your side in an anti Laz debate you're on your own I'm afraid.
  • PerdoggPerdogg
    Posts: 686
    #23 Skyfall

    #22 Quantum of Solace

    #21 Die Another Day

    #20 Tomorrow Never Dies

    #19 The World is Not Enough

    #18 Casino Royale

    #17 Goldeneye

    #16 Live and Let Die

    #15 Diamond are Forever

    #14 Licence to Kill

    #13 A View to a Kill

    #12 The Man with The Golden Gun

    #11 Dr No

    #10 You Only Live Twice

    #9 Moonraker

    #8 The Spy Who Loved Me

    #7 Goldfinger

    #6 Thunderball

    #5 The Living Daylights

    #4 Octopussy

    #3 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

    #2 For Your Eyes Only

    #1 From Russia With Love
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Perdogg wrote:
    #23 Skyfall

    #22 Quantum of Solace

    #21 Die Another Day

    #20 Tomorrow Never Dies

    #19 The World is Not Enough

    #18 Casino Royale

    #17 Goldeneye

    #16 Live and Let Die

    #15 Diamond are Forever

    #14 Licence to Kill

    #13 A View to a Kill

    #12 The Man with The Golden Gun

    #11 Dr No

    #10 You Only Live Twice

    #9 Moonraker

    #8 The Spy Who Loved Me

    #7 Goldfinger

    #6 Thunderball

    #5 The Living Daylights

    #4 Octopussy

    #3 On Her Majesty’s Secret Service

    #2 For Your Eyes Only

    #1 From Russia With Love

    I see what you're trying to do there Perdogg. Slipping in your own laughable list (all three Craig films below DAF? Do me a favour) on the sly when we are all blinded by an even more ludicrous one by Shoreline!

    Very cunning.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited September 2013 Posts: 3,494
    TheWizardOfIce wrote:
    SirHenryLeeChaChing wrote:
    My own very simple take on OHMSS is that if you can't look past "the chimp" (a bit too far even for me) you're missing the rest of the scenery on a exciting yet touching journey in the life of Bond. Which is a fantastic and quite Fleming faithful film loaded with a highly skilled cast who give perhaps the best movie performances of their collective careers, innovative aerial cinematography, a solid director with an advanced eye for putting scenes together, and a bang up soundtrack.

    It's no secret that I regard Lazenby as little more than an action star, which requires little to no acting skills and just the ability to move and fight impressively, and have been on said bandwagon since 1969. He's still the worst of the six Bond actors in my view. But as @Wiz relates, consistent with my own philosophy on Bond films, the lead actor is only one aspect and a Bond movie cannot be fairly judged on that alone.


    As someone who I know is utterly immune to any merits people might see in Laz, I regard these words by SirHenry as pretty fatal to any last vestiges of hope Shoreline might have had for his deranged argument.

    If you cant even get SirHenry on your side in an anti Laz debate you're on your own I'm afraid.

    If our debates on the subject of Lazenby were a boxing match, surely the stuff of MI6 legend by now, they have all ended as blood filled no contests with both combatants too exhausted to continue b-( . However it should be noted that I wasn't looking at Shoreline's statement as an anti-Laz debate but more rather in defense of an otherwise great film- that George barely got through by the skin of his teeth ;)

    And didn't we rip Perdogg a new one before on his thoroughly stupid list?







  • SoundofthesinnersSoundofthesinners
    Posts: 3,236
    I'm interested by your ranking, MrBond. You seem to favor the more traditional, low-key adventures, but The Man With Golden Gun is very high, and For Your Eyes Only is very low. Any reason why?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    @Perdogg's list always starts off so promisingly but then you get to #15 and it all goes tits up from there.

    With regards to @Shoreline's list. To base your disdain for OHMSS entirely on your dislike for Lazenby shows a pretty narrow view does it not?

    I am also in that group who does not rate him as an actor at all. In fact he ranks bottom of the actors as far as I'm concerned but just like @TheWiz and @SirHenry, the film itself is superb. It's one of the very best. There is so much more to admire and enjoy than just Lazenby.

    Have you read the books at all? Are you a fan of Fleming or do you watch the films only?

    To think that a film like OHMSS - born from the pen of Fleming himself can be considered far worse than DAD - born shat out the arse of Satan himself, is quite frankly embarassing. It is a hideously mangled car crash of a film. There is nothing that distinguishes itself as a Bond film.

    At least with MR, you laugh with it because it knows it's so preposterous and far fetched. With DAD, you're laughing at it (when you're not burying your head into your hands) because it's trying to carry the whole thing off with a straight face.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited September 2013 Posts: 3,494
    @Willy- Perdogg's list goes tits up at #9 as far as I'm concerned. I find it absolutely insane that one can have read my favorite Fleming book and reward this abortion of a screen adaptation with a high ranking, yet bury a much more faithful adaptation of Casino Royale that needed some of the modern upgrades it got. Skyfall gets ripped for stealing from other modern films, but Moonraker gets a pass from ripping off Star Wars, using a bit of the "Close Encounters" theme to open up the poison gas laboratory, not to mention the shameless whoring for dollars from every possible advertiser that makes drinking a Heineken look positively innocuous in comparison? No sir, I laugh at MR about as equally as I laugh at DAD, but agreed that there is a bit of a difference in how the films approach themselves so point taken.

  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    My feelings towards MR definitely stem from my bias of loving it as a small boy. It does have so many awful moments, mainly whenever Jaws is on screen, but at least with Moore, you know it's tongue in cheek and not to be taken seriously. And I'd rather have Gilbert behind the camera than Tamahori.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited September 2013 Posts: 3,494
    I agree with my fellow original @BeatlesSansEarmuffs that (assuming you're familiar with the old classic Looney Tunes cartoons) watching Jaws chase and fail to catch Bond is much like watching Wile E. Coyote trying to capture the Road Runner for dinner, right down to similar facial reactions. It still doesn't excuse the juvenile issues that attracted you as a child nor make it a top 10 entry.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited September 2013 Posts: 13,350
    Latest ranking - JUNE 2012

    Have at it. My last ranking is on page two of this thread.

    1. From Russia With Love <b>(0)</b>
    2. Dr. No <b>(0)</b>
    3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service <b>(0)</b>
    4. Thunderball <b>(0)</b>
    5. For Your Eyes Only <font color=green><b>(+5)</b></font>
    6. Licence To Kill <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    7. The Living Daylights <b>(0)</b>
    8. Octopussy <b>(0)</b>
    9. Live And Let Die <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    10. GoldenEye <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    11. Goldfinger <b>(0)</b>
    12. Casino Royale <b>(0)</b>
    13. Quantum Of Solace <b>(NEW)</b>
    14. Diamonds Are Forever <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    15. Moonraker <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    16. A View To A Kill <b>(0)</b>
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies <font color=green><b>(+1)</b></font>
    18. The World Is Not Enough <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    19. You Only Live Twice <b>(0)</b>
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    21. The Spy Who Loved Me <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    22. Die Another Day <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>

    <font color=green><b>2</b></font> go up
    <font color=red><b>9</b></font> go down
    <b>10</b> stay the same
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    Sam, shouldn't you have included Skyfall by now?
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited September 2013 Posts: 13,350
    June 2012, so no. I was asked the same thing about my June 2008 list on page 2.

    So what do you think, is it just about passable?
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Yes even with my own compassion towards MR fails to get it anywhere near my top ten. I think it's 17th overall.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    edited September 2013 Posts: 3,494
    Samuel001 wrote:
    Latest ranking - JUNE 2012

    Have at it. My last ranking is on page two of this thread.

    1. From Russia With Love <b>(0)</b>
    2. Dr. No <b>(0)</b>
    3. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service <b>(0)</b>
    4. Thunderball <b>(0)</b>
    5. For Your Eyes Only <font color=green><b>(+5)</b></font>
    6. Licence To Kill <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    7. The Living Daylights <b>(0)</b>
    8. Octopussy <b>(0)</b>
    9. Live And Let Die <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    10. GoldenEye <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    11. Goldfinger <b>(0)</b>
    12. Casino Royale <b>(0)</b>
    13. Quantum Of Solace <b>(0)</b>
    14. Diamonds Are Forever <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    15. Moonraker <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    16. A View To A Kill <b>(0)</b>
    17. Tomorrow Never Dies <font color=green><b>(+1)</b></font>
    18. The World Is Not Enough <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    19. You Only Live Twice <b>(0)</b>
    20. The Man With The Golden Gun <font color=red><b>(-3)</b></font>
    21. The Spy Who Loved Me <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>
    22. Die Another Day <font color=red><b>(-1)</b></font>

    <font color=green><b>2</b></font> go up
    <font color=red><b>9</b></font> go down
    <b>11</b> stay the same

    Well, to be honest, passable is in the eyes of the beholder. You have 7 of my top 10 films in your version, but Perdogg as an example has 6. For myself, GF, CR, and Spy are way too low, GF and CR are my #1 and #2 and Spy I'd have at #12. My "line of shame", which doesn't mean the films are completely devoid of some good moments, includes DAD, MR, DAF, TWINE, and TMWTGG. It's really only MR and DAD that I have to totally brace myself for when it comes to a rewatch.

    P.S- Skyfall would be about at #8 in my current view. My top 10 would go GF, CR, LTK, FRWL, TLD, TB, OHMSS, SF, DN, and FYEO.

  • PerdoggPerdogg
    Posts: 686
    @WillyGalore @SirHenryLeeChaChing @Dragonpol @TheWizardofIce

    Isn't is kind of difficult to really compare all 23 Bond movies? Let's say we were to make Goldfinger today or From Russia With Love. Today, the producers would have a bit more licence with the current state of morality. There should be an exchange mechanisms.
  • RC7RC7
    edited September 2013 Posts: 10,512
    Perdogg wrote:
    Isn't is kind of difficult to really compare all 23 Bond movies?

    Yes and why I never do. I think it's feasible to compare say, TLD and LTK, GF and TB, TSWLM and MR, for example, but comparing say, TSWLM with LTK seems redundant to me. Just my opinion.
  • OddjobOddjob
    Posts: 82
    my latest rankings

    1. Goldfinger
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Casino Royale
    4. Skyfall
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. Goldeneye
    7. On her Majesty's Secret Service
    8. License To Kill
    9. Live and Let die
    10. The Man with the Golden Gun
    11. Dr. No
    12. Thunderball
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. The World Is not Enough
    15. A View to a kill
    16. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. You only live twice
    18. Never Say Never Again
    19. Octopussy
    20. The living Daylights
    21. Die Another Day
    22. Diamond are Forever
    23. Quantum of Solace
    24. Moonraker
  • WillyGaloreWillyGalore
    Posts: 6,396
    Oddjob wrote:
    my latest rankings

    1. Goldfinger
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Casino Royale
    4. Skyfall
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. Goldeneye
    7. On her Majesty's Secret Service
    8. License To Kill
    9. Live and Let die
    10. The Man with the Golden Gun
    11. Dr. No
    12. Thunderball
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. The World Is not Enough
    15. A View to a kill
    16. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. You only live twice
    18. Never Say Never Again
    19. Octopussy
    20. The living Daylights
    21. Die Another Day
    22. Diamond are Forever
    23. Quantum of Solace
    24. Moonraker

    NSNA better than TLD? I'd love to know your reasons for this.
  • SirHenryLeeChaChingSirHenryLeeChaChing
    Posts: 3,494
    Oddjob wrote:
    my latest rankings

    1. Goldfinger
    2. From Russia With Love
    3. Casino Royale
    4. Skyfall
    5. The Spy Who Loved Me
    6. Goldeneye
    7. On her Majesty's Secret Service
    8. License To Kill
    9. Live and Let die
    10. The Man with the Golden Gun
    11. Dr. No
    12. Thunderball
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. The World Is not Enough
    15. A View to a kill
    16. Tomorrow Never Dies
    17. You only live twice
    18. Never Say Never Again
    19. Octopussy
    20. The living Daylights
    21. Die Another Day
    22. Diamond are Forever
    23. Quantum of Solace
    24. Moonraker

    Now that's an improvement right there. Never count a cheap imitation as a real Bond film. It's like having Ripple in a fine wine cellar.

    Awesome top 3, but TLD at #20 is a major head scratcher.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
    Posts: 9,117
    Perdogg wrote:
    @WillyGalore @SirHenryLeeChaChing @Dragonpol @TheWizardofIce

    Isn't is kind of difficult to really compare all 23 Bond movies? Let's say we were to make Goldfinger today or From Russia With Love. Today, the producers would have a bit more licence with the current state of morality. There should be an exchange mechanisms.

    Indeed. However its not difficult to see that CR and SF are better than DAF and MR.
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