Bond movie ranking (Simple list, no details)

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  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
    edited June 2017 Posts: 194
    Unfortunately, I am not sure if there is way to link a spreadsheet here.

    For me, I feel like all of the films in my top eleven, the elite eleven if you will, deserve to be in the top ten. Such is the nature of a ranking though, I guess. To me, there is then a slight drop to an outstanding LALD followed by another drop into the next group of films which I would characterize as being really good.

    The competition just gets very steep as I move towards the top 10 and those two just don't quite make it in. They are both close though, especially SF.
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    @IGotTheMessage Did you get my rankings old chap ?
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
    edited June 2017 Posts: 194
    @barryt007

    Yes sir, I have you. You are in there.

    barryt007:

    Dr. No 13
    From Russia with Love 2
    Goldfinger 15
    Thunderball 5
    You Only Live Twice 21
    On Her Majesty's Secret Service 1
    Diamonds Are Forever 19
    Live and Let Die 17
    The Man with the Goldun Gun 20
    The Spy Who Loved Me 11
    Moonraker 23
    For Your Eyes Only 22
    Octopussy 6
    A View to a Kill 16
    The Living Daylights 24
    Licence to Kill 9
    Goldeneye 8
    Tomorrow Never Dies 14
    The World Is Not Enough 10
    Die Another Day 18
    Casino Royale 3
    Quantum of Solace 4
    Skyfall 7
    Spectre 12

  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    I think w2bond did something with a spreadsheet on this thread once, and so did Gustav_Graves, so it can be done. I think one needs to create a jpeg of it and host it somewhere (like on imgur).

    Here's an example:
    https://www.mi6community.com/discussion/comment/670486/#Comment_670486
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    Perfect,thanks mate.
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
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    @bondjames

    Alright. I calculated for actors and directors as well.
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    Recently did a Bondathon, here is my new ranking

    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. Dr No (+3)
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Goldfinger (-3)
    8. Goldeneye
    9. Thunderball
    10. The Living Daylights
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Skyfall
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    15. Moonraker
    16. Octopussy (+1)
    17. Spectre (-3)
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. You Only Live Twice (+2)
    20. The World is Not Enough (-1)
    21. Quantum of Solace (-1)
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. A View to a Kill
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
    edited June 2017 Posts: 194
    A number of users have not posted a new ranking since Spectre's release. If they would like to, they include:

    @00Beast
    @WillyGalore
    @thelivingroyale
    @4EverBonded
    @TheWizardOfIce
    @M_Balje
    @fire_and_ice
    @SaintMark

    They would all be valuable additions to the sample.


  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Most of those are either dead, gone from here or don t do rankings.
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
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    @Thunderfinger

    I see. I intentionally referenced only users who had previously commented on this thread though, but just haven't done so since the release of Spectre.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Maybe one or two will respond tops.
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
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    @Birdleson

    I am really sorry to hear that. I will edit the post and take his name off if that would be the appropriate thing to do.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Recently did a Bondathon, here is my new ranking

    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. Dr No (+3)
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Goldfinger (-3)
    8. Goldeneye
    9. Thunderball
    10. The Living Daylights
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Skyfall
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    15. Moonraker
    16. Octopussy (+1)
    17. Spectre (-3)
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. You Only Live Twice (+2)
    20. The World is Not Enough (-1)
    21. Quantum of Solace (-1)
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. A View to a Kill
    That's a nice list with lots of love shown for all of the actors.
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
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    @Birdleson

    I appreciate it. It is unfortunate nonetheless.
  • edited June 2017 Posts: 3,336
    bondjames wrote: »
    Recently did a Bondathon, here is my new ranking

    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. Dr No (+3)
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Goldfinger (-3)
    8. Goldeneye
    9. Thunderball
    10. The Living Daylights
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Skyfall
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    15. Moonraker
    16. Octopussy (+1)
    17. Spectre (-3)
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. You Only Live Twice (+2)
    20. The World is Not Enough (-1)
    21. Quantum of Solace (-1)
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. A View to a Kill
    That's a nice list with lots of love shown for all of the actors.

    Thanks. I am very happy to have all the Bond actors featured in my top 10 :)
  • edited June 2017 Posts: 337
    Wish I could manage that. My list is undoubtedly one of the more partisan ones, if only because the nature of my criteria is heavily partisan in of itself.

    I'll try compiling a more objective list and see where I'll end up with it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    Recently did a Bondathon, here is my new ranking

    1. Casino Royale
    2. On Her Majesty’s Secret Service
    3. From Russia with Love
    4. Dr No (+3)
    5. For Your Eyes Only
    6. The Spy Who Loved Me
    7. Goldfinger (-3)
    8. Goldeneye
    9. Thunderball
    10. The Living Daylights
    11. Licence to Kill
    12. Skyfall
    13. Live and Let Die
    14. The Man with the Golden Gun (+2)
    15. Moonraker
    16. Octopussy (+1)
    17. Spectre (-3)
    18. Tomorrow Never Dies
    19. You Only Live Twice (+2)
    20. The World is Not Enough (-1)
    21. Quantum of Solace (-1)
    22. Die Another Day
    23. Diamonds Are Forever
    24. A View to a Kill
    That's a nice list with lots of love shown for all of the actors.

    Thanks. I am very happy to have all the Bond actors featured in my top 10 :)
    So do I, just. LTK just cracks my top 10 (in your case, the Tim effort that does is TLD). I'm quite happy to have all actors there too, but wonder if that could change with B25 (which I'm looking forward to so much that it most likely will catapult into the top 10 when released, unless it features a continuation story).
  • w2bondw2bond is indeed a very rare breed
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    Great list @IGotTheMessage ! And stats too.

    I hate to follow the crowd but 'mixed feelings' is a good way to describe Spectre
  • edited June 2017 Posts: 337
    Here's my attempt at a more objective list, relying less on sheer entertainment and more on actual dot-points of criteria. Namely, plot, writing, acting, production quality (ie. stunts, editing, cinematography, set design, other effects), score, theme song, locations, atmosphere, action, consistency, etc.

    1. The Spy Who Loved Me
    2. Goldfinger
    3. Casino Royale
    4. From Russia With Love
    5. Skyfall
    6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7. GoldenEye
    8. Octopussy
    9. Live and Let Die
    10. You Only Live Twice
    11. Thunderball
    12. Dr No
    13. For Your Eyes Only
    14. Tomorrow Never Dies
    15. Moonraker
    16. A View To A Kill
    17. The Living Daylights
    18. Spectre
    19. The Man With The Golden Gun
    20. Die Another Day
    21. The World Is Not Enough
    22. Quantum of Solace
    23. Licence To Kill
    24. Diamonds Are Forever

    My top ten's largely the same, and I apparently couldn't get out of ranking #21 - #23 low again, haha.

    No details, as requested by the OP, though I'd be happy to elaborate on any of my placements.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Also a decent list @stun_harvesting. I've not seen too many put YOLT in the top 10, and you don't seem too keen on Dalton's two.
  • edited June 2017 Posts: 337
    @bondjames I like YOLT. Predecessor to TSWLM and MR with its massive, ornate sets and larger-than-life feel. I like the score and theme (unusually much, it seems) and I think the main issues are Sean Connery's dropoff in acting towards the end and his bad makeup. Otherwise, the acting wasn't anything particularly good but passable. The plot and writing in general are also somewhat pedestrian, but I seem to be willing to forgive a lot of it for the sheer atmosphere it builds. I think it barely edged out Thunderball.

    Dalton's two just don't do him justice, IMO, even for the direction he was trying to take Bond. LTK for me is just a mess. I admit Sanchez was a good villain but I found the Bond girls and their love triangle thing to be deplorable. Wayne Newton's character could have been left out in my opinion and there were a few other things that were randomly tossed in (the ninjas and winking fish come to mind). Another thing — there's far too little colour in the environment. Certainly no real local colour considering it's set in a made-up place. That's something I took points off LALD for as well, though at least LALD establishes the Carribean and voodoo-like setting of San Moniqe. Isthmus City is just colourless IMO. In fact, the Hemmingway House bit is the most colourful part to memory, and it only appears briefly. All of the other locations are overly dark and dreary. Dalton's acting was fine but he just seemed pissed at everything here. It does feel a bit like Miami Vice with a few Bond elements like the gadgets splashed in. But everything from Q's extended role to the excess gore just felt like it was overcompensating.

    TLD fared better, if only because it stayed a bit truer to the established 007 formula. Good score and good theme song, but few Bond movies suffer more from consistency issues (ie. strange dichotomy between Moore-like scenes which Dalton can't sell and darker ones which are more appropriate for him). Again, it's a bit too dull, but at least there's more colour and set life. There's something about the mid-Afghanistan sequences which just bores me. I did like the plane fight, though. Didn't find Kara very appealing and the villains were incredibly weak and bland. The arms-drugs trade thing was poorly fleshed-out for me, which made the villains all the more forgettable. And that horrible final fight between Bond and Whitaker doesn't help either.
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    Think it's been a while since I did this so I'll give it a go. I just rank them in terms of personal preference, how much I enjoy them. If I tried to do it objectively I'd be here all day.

    1) Licence To Kill
    2) The Living Daylights
    3) Spectre
    4) The Spy Who Loved Me
    5) Goldeneye
    6) On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    7) From Russia With Love
    8) The World Is Not Enough
    9) Octopussy
    10) Skyfall
    11) You Only Live Twice
    12) Goldfinger
    13) Casino Royale
    14) Never Say Never Again
    15) Thunderball
    16) Live And Let Die
    17) Die Another Day
    18) Tomorrow Never Dies
    19) Dr No
    20) A View To a Kill
    21) For Your Eyes Only
    22) Diamonds Are Forever
    23) Moonraker
    24) The Man With The Golden Gun
    25) Quantum Of Solace

    I do change my mind about these films a lot though, apart from my top 5-10. And my actor ranking would probably be

    1) Dalton
    2) Brosnan
    3) Connery/Moore
    4) Craig
    5) Lazenby

    But I always find ranking the actors hard (except Dalton as no 1, that's just common sense ;) ) because they all did a brilliant job at playing their own version of the character.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    1) Licence To Kill
    2) The Living Daylights

    Excellent!!!
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    @stun_harvesting I can surely appreciate the love for YOLT. Like you I really like the larger than life travelogue feel of it, and the location work in Japan is first class. As you said, it has great atmosphere. I just perhaps am not so forgiving of the drop off towards the end and can't quite get into the volcano lair sequence.

    RE: Dalton - I have LTK in my top 10 (10 of 10) purely because of the strength of the Dalton/Davi dynamic and because I really like the way Bond plays Sanchez and lets him slowly begin to doubt his inner circle. It truly is first class revenge. Having said that, I understand where you're coming from regarding the look and feel of the film. There's little of the classic glamour and style despite the casino sequence (which seems out of place really). It really pops on blu ray though (much more so than on earlier copies I've seen). TLD has always been a mixed bag for me, and I used to look at the film far more favourably in the past than I do now. I completely agree on your assessment of it.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited June 2017 Posts: 23,883
    Birdleson wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Also a decent list @stun_harvesting. I've not seen too many put YOLT in the top 10, and you don't seem too keen on Dalton's two.

    I have always put YOLT in my Top Ten until my last Bond-A-Thon, it is now at 11.
    Yes. @Birdleson, I forgot you had it quite highly ranked as well. Still, not many here do.
  • edited June 2017 Posts: 337
    bondjames wrote: »
    @stun_harvesting I can surely appreciate the love for YOLT. Like you I really like the larger than life travelogue feel of it, and the location work in Japan is first class. As you said, it has great atmosphere. I just perhaps am not so forgiving of the drop off towards the end and can't quite get into the volcano lair sequence.

    Fair enough. The last act is considerably weaker, which is the major letdown for me. But I do enjoy it a lot otherwise, and I find it to hit the mark perfectly between that sheer magnitude of its atmosphere and the grounded, spy-like feel of the early films.

    I'm also getting more partial to Lazenby and On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which I suppose isn't a bad thing considering I'm Australian. :)

    YOLT barely snuck into the top ten for me anyway, and that may just be because TB didn't have the amazing set work that it did (otherwise TB is a better film).
    RE: Dalton - I have LTK in my top 10 (10 of 10) purely because of the strength of the Dalton/Davi dynamic and because I really like the way Bond plays Sanchez and lets him slowly begin to doubt his inner circle. It truly is first class revenge. Having said that, I understand where you're coming from regarding the look and feel of the film. There's little of the classic glamour and style despite the casino sequence (which seems out of place really). It really pops on blu ray though (much more so than on earlier copies I've seen). TLD has always been a mixed bag for me, and I used to look at the film far more favourably in the past than I do now. I completely agree on your assessment of it.

    Yeah, as I said, I agree Sanchez is a good villain. The problem is that I can't enjoy him as much because the overall dullness of the film seriously detracts from it.

    TLD is a really a mixed bag, yeah. I mean, I do want to at least rank Dalton's movies higher in my "objective" list, but I just find it difficult to move them out of the bottom half. LTK in particular.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    Dalton s film are both taut, gritty, well cast, refreshing and Flemingesque entries in the series. LTK is the best Bond film of the 80's.
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Agreed. except I think that honour belongs to FYEO.
  • IGotTheMessageIGotTheMessage United States
    edited June 2017 Posts: 194
    It is great to now have a ranking from you @thelivingroyale. Not sure about w2bond, but I didn't change your rankings @stun_harvesting, as you stated that this new list was an "objective" list.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    Dalton s film are both taut, gritty, well cast, refreshing and Flemingesque entries in the series. LTK is the best Bond film of the 80's.

    Couldn't agree more!
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