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What do you want from Billie Eilish's NTTD's title song?

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  • battleshipgreygtbattleshipgreygt
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    TripAces wrote: »
    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    I guess Finneas literally did mean it would be released really soon

    I figured it would be released about six weeks ahead, to give it a little more momentum.

    I guess they’re striking while the iron is hot, coming off the Grammys and the Oscars performance. It does seem a little early but with Billie’s status right now the song will likely saturate the airwaves and give the film a huge early boost. I think they’ll be pulling out all the stops on the marketing hype machine and an early start isn’t a bad idea.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Guide, Time zones for today's realese

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  • BonSimonLeBon_1BonSimonLeBon_1
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    Contraband wrote: »
    Guide, Time zones for today's realese

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    Should say 12 midnight for London. There is no 12 am or 12pm. I am a pedant.
  • 2Wint2Kidd2Wint2Kidd
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    As someone from New Zealand, I have travelled back in time to let you know the song is fantastic and is the best piece of sound known to mankind :))
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    2Wint2Kidd wrote: »
    Is that sound snippet going to be the start of the song? They released the opening 15 seconds of WOTW as a tease so they could have easily decided to do the same thing again.
    Sure seems that way, and I actually liked the WOTW snippet but was disappointed by the full song :/

    Me too; but they turned out to be two different things! A dreary song with a beautiful string motif stuck on the beginning and end :)
  • FoxRoxFoxRox
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    If Eilish’s song tops AWTD and TWOTW, I’ll be happy enough, though I‘d love for it to be an all-timer.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
    edited February 2020 Posts: 3,018
    BonSimonLeBon_1 wrote: »
    Contraband wrote: »
    Guide, Time zones for today's realese

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    Should say 12 midnight for London. There is no 12 am or 12pm. I am a pedant.

    I'm just proving the guide, haven't made it. But if it's incorrect I can delete the damn thing.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited February 2020 Posts: 1,727
    The title song, no matter how dour & bland it might be, simply needs to be integrated into the NTTD Hans Zimmer score in a way that builds momentum and evokes some emotional resonance.

    EoN has failed to let it's composer do this ever since 1989, with the exception of TND and CR.

    As Cubby Broccoli wisely left John Barry alone to do (without nosing into the musical side of things like his hapless daughter does), and as has not been done properly since CS. Now THAT was how to weave a title song into a wonderful score...
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    AceHole wrote: »
    The title song, no matter how dour & bland it might be, simply needs to be integrated into the NTTD Hans Zimmer score in a way that builds momentum and evokes some emotional resonance.

    EoN has failed to let it's composer do this ever since 1989, with the exception of TND and CR.

    As Cubby Broccoli wisely left John Barry alone to do (without nosing into the musical side of things like his hapless daughter does), and as has not been done properly since CS. Now THAT was how to weave a title song into a wonderful score...

    What is CS...?
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    AceHole wrote: »
    The title song, no matter how dour & bland it might be, simply needs to be integrated into the NTTD Hans Zimmer score in a way that builds momentum and evokes some emotional resonance.

    EoN has failed to let it's composer do this ever since 1989, with the exception of TND and CR.

    As Cubby Broccoli wisely left John Barry alone to do (without nosing into the musical side of things like his hapless daughter does), and as has not been done properly since CS. Now THAT was how to weave a title song into a wonderful score...

    Cubby kind of got lucky having Barry on board. It's easy to leave him to it when the maestro is that good.

    When Cubby did interfere he famously resisted McCartney's theme song, and when he was finally won round he asked 'OK, who shall we get to sing it?'
  • vzokvzok
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    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.
  • ggl007ggl007 www.archivo007.com Spain, España
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    Valentine's Day in Europe. I think that's a spoiler... :D
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    vzok wrote: »
    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.

    In which case I will apologise to the memory of Cubby. :)
  • bondsumbondsum
    edited February 2020 Posts: 3,333
    vzok wrote: »
    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.
    That's not strictly true. Cubby refused to entertain Saltzman's suggestion of Elton John for TMWTGG title song, so to say he didn't interfere in the music choices isn't factually correct. Cubby also felt they could do better than Julie Rogers for YOLT (a Barry choice) and went about trying to get Frank Sinatra instead, who turned it down but suggested his daughter as the perfect replacement. Also, you've taken a slice of pop myth and reworded the bit about Harry "wanting" a female singer for LALD. Let's not forget that it was actually Saltzman and his CDF Ltd music business partner Ron Kass (formally of Apple Records) that set up the whole McCartney deal to begin with. The suggestion was that McCartney have a shot at writing the next Bond song, not necessarily performing it. You must also remember during this post-Beatles period, McCartney used to handout his songs for other artists to perform and not always record them himself, so it wasn't an unusual proposition to think the same would apply to a Bond song, especially as female singers were de rigueur and still are. What Saltzman actually said was: "It's not exactly my bag, but coming from Paul McCartney, one would be absolutely idiotic not to use it." Secondly, Barry didn't score LALD, that was George Martin.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    bondsum wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.
    That's not totally true. Cubby refused to entertain Saltzman's suggestion of Elton John for TMWTGG title song, so to say he didn't interfere in the music choices isn't factually correct. Cubby also felt they could do better than Julie Rogers for YOLT (a Barry choice) and went about trying to get Frank Sinatra instead, who turned it down but suggested his daughter as the perfect replacement. Also, you've taken a slice of pop myth and reworded the bit about Harry "wanting" a female singer for LALD. Let's not forget that it was actually Saltzman and his CDF Ltd music business partner Ron Kass (formally of Apple Records) that set up the whole McCartney deal to begin with. The suggestion was that McCartney have a shot at writing the next Bond song, not necessarily performing it. You must also remember during this post-Beatles period, McCartney used to handout his songs for other artists to perform and not always record them himself, so it wasn't an unusual suggestion to think the same would apply to a Bond song, especially as female singers were de rigueur and still are. What Saltzman actually said was: "It's not exactly my bag, but coming from Paul McCartney, one would be absolutely idiotic not to use it." Secondly, Barry didn't score LALD, that was George Martin.

    To be fair to @vzok he was addressing two different points I made. Firstly about Cubby and Barry, and then secondly about Cubby/Harry and Paul mcCartney.
  • bondsumbondsum
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    NicNac wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.
    That's not totally true. Cubby refused to entertain Saltzman's suggestion of Elton John for TMWTGG title song, so to say he didn't interfere in the music choices isn't factually correct. Cubby also felt they could do better than Julie Rogers for YOLT (a Barry choice) and went about trying to get Frank Sinatra instead, who turned it down but suggested his daughter as the perfect replacement. Also, you've taken a slice of pop myth and reworded the bit about Harry "wanting" a female singer for LALD. Let's not forget that it was actually Saltzman and his CDF Ltd music business partner Ron Kass (formally of Apple Records) that set up the whole McCartney deal to begin with. The suggestion was that McCartney have a shot at writing the next Bond song, not necessarily performing it. You must also remember during this post-Beatles period, McCartney used to handout his songs for other artists to perform and not always record them himself, so it wasn't an unusual suggestion to think the same would apply to a Bond song, especially as female singers were de rigueur and still are. What Saltzman actually said was: "It's not exactly my bag, but coming from Paul McCartney, one would be absolutely idiotic not to use it." Secondly, Barry didn't score LALD, that was George Martin.

    To be fair to @vzok he was addressing two different points I made. Firstly about Cubby and Barry, and then secondly about Cubby/Harry and Paul mcCartney.
    Not at all. I took @vzok's point as he intended it: a blast at Harry Salzman for not knowing who Paul McCartney was and Cubby being the better man behind the scenes, when both producers were equally canny, hard-nosed businessmen who could rub people up the wrong way.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    LeonardPine wrote: »
    AceHole wrote: »

    As Cubby Broccoli wisely left John Barry alone to do (without nosing into the musical side of things like his hapless daughter does), and as has not been done properly since CS. Now THAT was how to weave a title song into a wonderful score...

    What is CS...?

    Typo, I was distracted by work :P - I meant CR (maybe I was improv thinking along the lines of 'Casino Solange'...)
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Wasn't tomorrow one of the original release dates for the film???
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I didn't mind the snippet, it felt ominous like a Bond song should. I like the fact that it's called No Time To Die as well.

    Admittedly the thought of a Bond song by Eilish isn't what I'd have gone for, but I'm willing to be surprised on this one like I was with Adele's Skyfall. I wasn't and I'm still not an Adele fan but I think Skyfall was a great song and fit the tone of the film perfectly.. So I hope Eilish's No Time To Die is the same

    I have to say I wasn't a fan of her cover of Yesterday though, it felt too slow, soulless and came across like she was trying too hard, funnily enough similar to when Adele covered Fast Love by George Michael
  • vzokvzok
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    bondsum wrote: »
    NicNac wrote: »
    bondsum wrote: »
    vzok wrote: »
    Cubby knew enough to know that John Barry knew what he was doing. I think it was Harry Saltzman that wanted a female singer for LALD.
    That's not totally true. Cubby refused to entertain Saltzman's suggestion of Elton John for TMWTGG title song, so to say he didn't interfere in the music choices isn't factually correct. Cubby also felt they could do better than Julie Rogers for YOLT (a Barry choice) and went about trying to get Frank Sinatra instead, who turned it down but suggested his daughter as the perfect replacement. Also, you've taken a slice of pop myth and reworded the bit about Harry "wanting" a female singer for LALD. Let's not forget that it was actually Saltzman and his CDF Ltd music business partner Ron Kass (formally of Apple Records) that set up the whole McCartney deal to begin with. The suggestion was that McCartney have a shot at writing the next Bond song, not necessarily performing it. You must also remember during this post-Beatles period, McCartney used to handout his songs for other artists to perform and not always record them himself, so it wasn't an unusual suggestion to think the same would apply to a Bond song, especially as female singers were de rigueur and still are. What Saltzman actually said was: "It's not exactly my bag, but coming from Paul McCartney, one would be absolutely idiotic not to use it." Secondly, Barry didn't score LALD, that was George Martin.

    To be fair to @vzok he was addressing two different points I made. Firstly about Cubby and Barry, and then secondly about Cubby/Harry and Paul mcCartney.
    Not at all. I took @vzok's point as he intended it: a blast at Harry Salzman for not knowing who Paul McCartney was and Cubby being the better man behind the scenes, when both producers were equally canny, hard-nosed businessmen who could rub people up the wrong way.

    I was talking about John Barry in the first instance. The story about Saltzman came from George Martin, who said he was at that meeting. Nobody suggested he didn’t know McCartney, but he apparently wanted another singer
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
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    Won't get to hear until Saturday morning! :((
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    Wasn't tomorrow one of the original release dates for the film???

    Yes, exactly.
  • BurgessBurgess
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ftxz
  • Matt007Matt007
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    Fukanaga just posted a snippet on his insta. Sounds beautiful even though I’m guessing it’s just the intro.
  • WalecsWalecs On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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    Matt007 wrote: »
    Fukanaga just posted a snippet on his insta. Sounds beautiful even though I’m guessing it’s just the intro.

    It's pretty much the same snippet posted by Eilish last night.
  • Risico007Risico007
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    MakeshiftPython wrote: »
    Pierce2Daniel wrote: »
    antovolk wrote: »
    Yeah it doesn't seem like a tease for the song at all

    It's from the Vanity Fair photoshoot for the Oscars.

    Well that pretty much settles it. FALSE ALARM FOLKS!

    Dam cause if that was the theme I was digging it.
  • Matt007Matt007
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    Walecs wrote: »
    Matt007 wrote: »
    Fukanaga just posted a snippet on his insta. Sounds beautiful even though I’m guessing it’s just the intro.

    It's pretty much the same snippet posted by Eilish last night.

    OK - im a bit behind the curve
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    3 hours.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Daily Mail claims:

    Billie Eilish CONFIRMED to perform new James Bond theme tune at the BRITs in an orchestral performance with Hollywood film composer Hans Zimmer. The five-time Grammy award winner, 18, who recorded the title track to 007's No Time to Die in London last month, will take to the stage at The O2 on Tuesday for the 40th annual BRIT Awards ceremony.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8000341/Billie-Eilish-CONFIRMED-perform-James-Bond-theme-tune-BRITs.html
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    Great news.
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