Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    I know he is heavily touched up with cgi, but it just amazes me that Ford physically still looks the part even in his 80's!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    Just awesome. Goose bumps all over… Heart is pounding!!
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited April 2023 Posts: 14,962
    Oh damn, the Paramount logo is there!

    Yes that's fun isn't it. I think that means the mountain transition opening is probably safe. Interesting the Disney logo is there too, which it wasn't on the Star Wars logos- maybe that's a trade-off to balance the Paramount logo being there?
    I just think that poster is gorgeous. Can't stop looking at it.

    I watched the leaked footage of the Tuk Tuk chase: the jokey tone from Crystal Skull is gone, it's quite exciting.
    They've also hired James Mangold to make a Star Wars movie, which you'd think is a good sign about how they feel about this film.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    They've also hired James Mangold to make a Star Wars movie, which you'd think is a good sign about how they feel about this film.

    I read that today @mtm and thought the same. They saw what he did with Indiana, and whip him into another IP.

    Very good sign and the assumption is he didn’t make a good film, but a great film (considering how the SW film universe has been nothing but tentative. They need their next attempts to be exceptional and crowd pleasing)…

    Mangold is a great director, the poster is gorgeous, the trailer was spine tingling. I can’t wait….
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Have you seen the leaked footage? It looks great. Understandable if you don't want to be spoiled with phone footage though. And to be honest it feels like there's a lot of character stuff in there which needs to be seen in context.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I assume the Disney logo was put in as a way of making it clear that it’s their joint and not Paramount’s. Either way, I think we may actually see a five film set on home video down the line.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    As long as there are no gophers 😁
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    mtm wrote: »
    Have you seen the leaked footage? It looks great. Understandable if you don't want to be spoiled with phone footage though. And to be honest it feels like there's a lot of character stuff in there which needs to be seen in context.

    I haven’t seen the leaked footage and, although tempted, will try and avoid it, and other leaked scenes (which I suspect will happen after Cannes premiere).
  • Jordo007Jordo007 Merseyside
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    I'm too nervous to be optimistic about this one. I love Indy but I was excited about 4...
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
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    I like how Roger Moore as ffolkes randomly shows up on the lower right of the poster.

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  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Not saying that "4" was perfect. But I wasn't disappointed at all. In fact I think they managed pretty well to portray Indy 15 or 20 years after the first three. If DOD is at least of the same quality, count me as a fan.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Not saying that "4" was perfect. But I wasn't disappointed at all. In fact I think they managed pretty well to portray Indy 15 or 20 years after the first three. If DOD is at least of the same quality, count me as a fan.

    Me too.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Any guesses how they will deal with Marion and Mutt? I am guessing Marion will be dead? Mutt in Vietnam? Or do they just pretend that Crystal Skulls never happened?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    thedove wrote: »
    Any guesses how they will deal with Marion and Mutt? I am guessing Marion will be dead? Mutt in Vietnam? Or do they just pretend that Crystal Skulls never happened?

    I actually think Marion will be alive but not involved in the story. A rumor had Mutt involved in Vietnam
  • mattjoesmattjoes Kicking: Impossible
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    I think that poster needs a touch of green. Just a touch.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I have to say that Phoebe has great screen presence.
  • Posts: 12,270
    Not going to lie, I got some chills watching the trailer while going to see John Wick: Chapter 4 in the theater. Reeeeally hoping it’s as great as it looks!
  • peter wrote: »
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    In the original script of 'Lethal Weapon 2' Riggs was meant to die in the end. Looking at the dire sequels, they should have stuck to that!!

    Well Lethal Weapon 5 is about to go into production!

    I dunno about that... that's been the word for years now.

    I think it's on very shaky ground... I know the second unit/leading stunt coordinator on it...

    Wow. Any more news? I still wanted to see
    what Gibson can do.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    @Scaramanga1974 … it looked like it was greenlit to move forward, quite a while ago, but…. I believe things have changed.

    As published, Gibson wrote the script based off ideas that he and Donner discussed before Donner’s passing.

    But then there were the changes at WB.

    All chatter of a new LW film moving forward has gone quiet (as of the last time I chatted with my friend).

    And just my thoughts: I’m not sure if there’s an appetite to resurrect the series after so many years. The idea was for this next film to go straight to HBO Max (if I’m not misremembering?). But HBO Max is under constant transitions, so I’m convinced there’s not a home for LW at the moment (I could be wrong in assuming that the finances aren’t there to risk on a theatrical, and if HBO Max is in transition, it kind of pushes LW to the sidelines)….
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    @Scaramanga1974 … it looked like it was greenlit to move forward, quite a while ago, but…. I believe things have changed.

    As published, Gibson wrote the script based off ideas that he and Donner discussed before Donner’s passing.

    But then there were the changes at WB.

    All chatter of a new LW film moving forward has gone quiet (as of the last time I chatted with my friend).

    And just my thoughts: I’m not sure if there’s an appetite to resurrect the series after so many years. The idea was for this next film to go straight to HBO Max (if I’m not misremembering?). But HBO Max is under constant transitions, so I’m convinced there’s not a home for LW at the moment (I could be wrong in assuming that the finances aren’t there to risk on a theatrical, and if HBO Max is in transition, it kind of pushes LW to the sidelines)….

    What a shame; I was looking forward to one more film that would have hopefully returned to the tone of the first two film. I'm not a fan of LW4; it is far too silly.

    I would think greenlighting LW5 would be a no brainer; there is a market for it, even generic, low budget action films make money, and I would think it could be produced on a very reasonable budget.
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    @Scaramanga1974 … it looked like it was greenlit to move forward, quite a while ago, but…. I believe things have changed.

    As published, Gibson wrote the script based off ideas that he and Donner discussed before Donner’s passing.

    But then there were the changes at WB.

    All chatter of a new LW film moving forward has gone quiet (as of the last time I chatted with my friend).

    And just my thoughts: I’m not sure if there’s an appetite to resurrect the series after so many years. The idea was for this next film to go straight to HBO Max (if I’m not misremembering?). But HBO Max is under constant transitions, so I’m convinced there’s not a home for LW at the moment (I could be wrong in assuming that the finances aren’t there to risk on a theatrical, and if HBO Max is in transition, it kind of pushes LW to the sidelines)….

    What a shame; I was looking forward to one more film that would have hopefully returned to the tone of the first two film. I'm not a fan of LW4; it is far too silly.

    I would think greenlighting LW5 would be a no brainer; there is a market for it, even generic, low budget action films make money, and I would think it could be produced on a very reasonable budget.

    I think you’re right @talos7 : LW5 could be made with a lean budget. No doubt about this.

    The changes at WB, and HBO Max being in transition, have put this (potentially) in development Hell.

    It’s my guess— just a guess— that if this was ever to see the light of day, it wouldn’t be theatrical. The plan was, and (once again, a guess), would be, straight to streaming.

    So if this ever was to see the light of day, I think it’s on HBO Max to clearly define what their future slates will be, if they’ll even have a slate (I heard that HBO Max may be folding into a new streaming service altogether (I think it has something to do with the Discovery merger and HBO Max may dissolve into that (where they’d only produce docs and reality TV— which, if true, would go further to driving a stake in LW5’s heart).

    But once again, so I’m not misquoted on another website (as happened last time, 😂 (next time contact me for a quote!)), this is me making guesses and connecting dots after chatter of LW5 has gone ice cold, and my buddy basically said everything has been put on hold at the moment.

    The good news and the last thread of hope I have: a script is done and sits in the vault at WB. Whatever one may personally think of Gibson, the guy is a great writer and director (as we know, he’d also direct this); it can be done on a lean budget, but time is ticking and Glover and Gibson aren’t getting any younger.

    Is there chance at another kick at this can? Yes, but I think the door is inching closer and closer to being closed (at least on the original stars and not including any reboot the studio may think about in the future).
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    @peter Now in no way would I want a writer’s strike , but would one help a property like LW5 that is languishing in limbo but has a finished script?
    Would studios move forward with films that may have not gotten made otherwise?
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    talos7 wrote: »
    @peter Now in no way would I want a writer’s strike , but would one help a property like LW5 that is languishing in limbo but has a finished script?
    Would studios move forward with films that may have not gotten made otherwise?

    @talos7 ... A large part of the potential strike will be defining straight to streaming and made-for-tv films (some producers have taken advantage of these muddy waters and hired smaller writers under made-for-tv commissions rather than a feature that goes straight to streaming(leaving tens of thousands of dollars on the table).

    The strike (or an agreement before May 1), will clearly define the differences and writers will be paid accordingly, and perhaps scripts that were being held back will now proceed as one, or the other, according to the new agreement.

    In LW5's case: I think the strike won't help. There's no way WB would pay tv-movie wages. There's no muddiness here: this would be a feature that goes straight to streaming and there's no taking advantage of a veteran like Gibson.

    This has more to do with the fact that WB's streaming service (which is where LW5 was seemingly destined to end up), is in transition, and may only have a slate of docs and reality TV going forward.

    So the LW5 script that Gibson wrote will stay under lock and key at WB, unless they sell the IP to another studio (which I don't see happening).

    Unfortunately, it seems, until the streaming issues related to WB are clarified, this may be a project that is stuck in Development Hell indefinitely (I've been here three times in my life. The latest being a script called The Siege I wrote; it was optioned but got stuck in DH for the past five years. I was paid annually for the producers to keep hold of the rights, but now the script is back in my hands. But this was a script I wrote as a spec and I own the rights once its option expires. Gibson wrote LW5 as an assignment and WB owns it).

    Did that answer your question, or did I misinterpret what you were asking?
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    peter wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    @peter Now in no way would I want a writer’s strike , but would one help a property like LW5 that is languishing in limbo but has a finished script?
    Would studios move forward with films that may have not gotten made otherwise?

    @talos7 ... A large part of the potential strike will be defining straight to streaming and made-for-tv films (some producers have taken advantage of these muddy waters and hired smaller writers under made-for-tv commissions rather than a feature that goes straight to streaming(leaving tens of thousands of dollars on the table).

    The strike (or an agreement before May 1), will clearly define the differences and writers will be paid accordingly, and perhaps scripts that were being held back will now proceed as one, or the other, according to the new agreement.

    In LW5's case: I think the strike won't help. There's no way WB would pay tv-movie wages. There's no muddiness here: this would be a feature that goes straight to streaming and there's no taking advantage of a veteran like Gibson.

    This has more to do with the fact that WB's streaming service (which is where LW5 was seemingly destined to end up), is in transition, and may only have a slate of docs and reality TV going forward.

    So the LW5 script that Gibson wrote will stay under lock and key at WB, unless they sell the IP to another studio (which I don't see happening).

    Unfortunately, it seems, until the streaming issues related to WB are clarified, this may be a project that is stuck in Development Hell indefinitely (I've been here three times in my life. The latest being a script called The Siege I wrote; it was optioned but got stuck in DH for the past five years. I was paid annually for the producers to keep hold of the rights, but now the script is back in my hands. But this was a script I wrote as a spec and I own the rights once its option expires. Gibson wrote LW5 as an assignment and WB owns it).

    Did that answer your question, or did I misinterpret what you were asking?
    Absolutely. thanks!
  • slide_99slide_99 USA
    edited April 2023 Posts: 652
    With Mel directing LW5, the best he could do is give it a completely different feel from the previous movies, like what Stallone did with Rambo 4. Find a new take on old characters and some new story to tell. It'd be a fool's errand to try to recreate the magic of 1-4 without Donner and Kamen (not to mention Clapton and Steve Kahan, the captain). "Written by Richard Wenk" also doesn't inspire much hope, unless Gibson re-writes it.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    edited April 2023 Posts: 8,505
    slide_99 wrote: »
    With Mel directing LW5, the best he could do is give it a completely different feel from the previous movies, like what Stallone did with Rambo 4. Find a new take on old characters and some new story to tell. It'd be a fool's errand to try to recreate the magic of 1-4 without Donner and Kamen (not to mention Clapton and Steve Kahan, the captain). "Written by Richard Wenk" also doesn't inspire much hope, unless Gibson re-writes it.

    Gibson’s already written the final draft that he wanted to shoot.

    Edit: sorry for hijacking this thread, 😂. I think there’s a Lethal Weapon thread.
  • Posts: 12,506
    Sooooo looking forward to going to the cinema to see this! :-bd
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    No luck with Google or ChatGPT.... do someone know the name of the guy who did the voiceovers in the official OHMSS and DAF trailers? Because I used his voice for this:
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Great work!
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