Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • Posts: 1,545
    CrabKey wrote: »
    Looking forward to the film, but Dial of Destiny feels better suited for a game show.
    I'm sure all things will become clear, but Wheel of Fortune keeps coming to mind.

    Well said. No matter how you spin it...ahem...spin it, the title is weak.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    Still for many title choices the proof is in the pudding if I can say that. Postcard sentiment. Romance novel titling. Touching on adult film titletry. Double negatives (!).

    They can take on greatness.

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  • edited March 2023 Posts: 295
    With tv show Willow axed (announced yesterday!) and alleged low viewers for Mandalorian season 3, Lucasfilm need IJ 5 to be a sizable hit. Will it be? I dunno.

    I just wonder if Gen Z movie goers won't be enticed to see a 80 year old action hero. My guess is no. Older fans will go see it out of love of the franchise.
  • bondywondy wrote: »
    With tv show Willow axed (announced yesterday!) and alleged low viewers for Mandalorian season 3, Lucasfilm need IJ 5 to be a sizable hit. Will it be? I dunno.

    I just wonder if Gen Z movie goers won't be enticed to see a 80 year old action hero. My guess is no. Older fans will go see it out of love of the franchise.

    give me Indy over MI any day.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
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    Lucas Film and Disney seem to be hell bent on "the message" (as one of my favourite YouTubers The Critical Drinker says). If Indiana can stay away from that stuff I think it will do fine.

    When I think of what they did with Star Wars. Wow they just killed any chance of future movies. But I don't wish to digress into another topic. I pray they don't do the same to Indiana that they did to Luke.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
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    thedove wrote: »
    Lucas Film and Disney seem to be hell bent on "the message" (as one of my favourite YouTubers The Critical Drinker says). If Indiana can stay away from that stuff I think it will do fine.

    When I think of what they did with Star Wars. Wow they just killed any chance of future movies. But I don't wish to digress into another topic. I pray they don't do the same to Indiana that they did to Luke.

    The Mandalorian is fizzling out for me. Seasons one & two were my prayer to the gods. Obi-Wan was enjoyable. Boba Fett was a Force choke. Andor was amazing. We take our pleasures from these offerings where we can!
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    The Critical Drinker is a hack that placates to his base.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 14,861
    Yes he panders to those who want easy outrage.

    On a similar subject, the idiot on YouTube in the mask is desperately trying to claim they’re reshooting most of the movie right now (presumably so then he can claim he was right when all of his previous lies about the film are revealed to be such when the film releases), however it was rated by the MPAA a couple of weeks ago, meaning it is long finished and locked. These people make things up.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yes he panders to those who want easy outrage.

    On a similar subject, the idiot on YouTube in the mask is desperately trying to claim they’re reshooting most of the movie right now (presumably so then he can claim he was right when all of his previous lies about the film are revealed to be such when the film releases), however it was rated by the MPAA a couple of weeks ago, meaning it is long finished and locked. These people make things up.

    I actually enjoy both of these guys, but for different reasons; the guy in the mask is a complete put on and I don’t buy a fraction of the stuff he’s spewing. His shows are like a car crash ; I don’t want to look but can’t.
    As far as The Critical Drinker, yes he has an over the top gimmick, he makes many valid observations.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 14,861
    I don't find them valid at all, but we all see things differently.

    We do agree about mask guy though: total lies- I only mention him so that everyone knows to disregard. This time around he's saying that Indy died after jumping out of the plane in the last trailer and they've reshot that so he survives: there were photos from the set of them filming the landing back a year or so and Indy was very much shown to be sitting up and fine. 100% BS
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes he panders to those who want easy outrage.

    On a similar subject, the idiot on YouTube in the mask is desperately trying to claim they’re reshooting most of the movie right now (presumably so then he can claim he was right when all of his previous lies about the film are revealed to be such when the film releases), however it was rated by the MPAA a couple of weeks ago, meaning it is long finished and locked. These people make things up.

    I actually enjoy both of these guys, but for different reasons; the guy in the mask is a complete put on and I don’t buy a fraction of the stuff he’s spewing. His shows are like a car crash ; I don’t want to look but can’t.
    As far as The Critical Drinker, yes he has an over the top gimmick, he makes many valid observations.

    Most critics with a gimmick have a way of making people not like them. If there’s one critic I can’t stand, it’s the Nostalgia Critic. He was NEVER funny. Just screaming with bad pacing. And mistreatment of staff members. How he still has followers or is allowed to make videos is beyond me.

    As for Indy, we will probably see some early spoilers, if it debuts at Cannes like Crystal Skull.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    It is set to debut at Cannes, a month before its release.

  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing Long Neck Ice Cold Beer Never Broke My Heart
    edited March 2023 Posts: 4,377
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes he panders to those who want easy outrage.

    On a similar subject, the idiot on YouTube in the mask is desperately trying to claim they’re reshooting most of the movie right now (presumably so then he can claim he was right when all of his previous lies about the film are revealed to be such when the film releases), however it was rated by the MPAA a couple of weeks ago, meaning it is long finished and locked. These people make things up.

    I actually enjoy both of these guys, but for different reasons; the guy in the mask is a complete put on and I don’t buy a fraction of the stuff he’s spewing. His shows are like a car crash ; I don’t want to look but can’t.
    As far as The Critical Drinker, yes he has an over the top gimmick, he makes many valid observations.

    Most critics with a gimmick have a way of making people not like them. If there’s one critic I can’t stand, it’s the Nostalgia Critic. He was NEVER funny. Just screaming with bad pacing. And mistreatment of staff members. How he still has followers or is allowed to make videos is beyond me.

    As for Indy, we will probably see some early spoilers, if it debuts at Cannes like Crystal Skull.

    Ehh it just goes to show that anyone can take a spare room or a basement, put some movie cases behind them and make edgy comments about films and get 1M+ subscribers on YouTube.

    The only one that I highly enjoy in that category is Sean Chandler. He does great breakdowns ranking franchises and even with Bond, he ranked them all together and then ranked each actors film's separately.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    YouTube critics are never to be taken seriously.

    I remember there was a critic that wrote long film essays in all caps because his shtick was that he talks The Incredible Hulk. “HULK SAYS…” and so on. That guy had a huge following and so many I knew told me how great his essays were but I could never get past his all caps shtick. And whenever I tried I heard it in “Hulk” voice. It was so obnoxious to try to read.

    This is why I try sticking to professional critics, or at least one that seems reasonable in their approach to film. Not all of them are perfect. I loved Roger Ebert’s writing, but even he could go over the top when he despised something. But at least I know where they’re coming from, and they’re writing for themselves rather than cynically trying to nab subscribers by spouting right wing rhetoric.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,888
    YouTube critics are never to be taken seriously.

    I remember there was a critic that wrote long film essays in all caps because his shtick was that he talks The Incredible Hulk. “HULK SAYS…” and so on. That guy had a huge following and so many I knew told me how great his essays were but I could never get past his all caps shtick. And whenever I tried I heard it in “Hulk” voice. It was so obnoxious to try to read.

    This is why I try sticking to professional critics, or at least one that seems reasonable in their approach to film. Not all of them are perfect. I loved Roger Ebert’s writing, but even he could go over the top when he despised something. But at least I know where they’re coming from, and they’re writing for themselves rather than cynically trying to nab subscribers by spouting right wing rhetoric.

    While others spew , and bathe in left wing, progressive rhetoric; I guess there’s something for everyone. 😉
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 14,861
    YouTube critics are never to be taken seriously.

    I remember there was a critic that wrote long film essays in all caps because his shtick was that he talks The Incredible Hulk. “HULK SAYS…” and so on. That guy had a huge following and so many I knew told me how great his essays were but I could never get past his all caps shtick. And whenever I tried I heard it in “Hulk” voice. It was so obnoxious to try to read.

    This is why I try sticking to professional critics, or at least one that seems reasonable in their approach to film. Not all of them are perfect. I loved Roger Ebert’s writing, but even he could go over the top when he despised something. But at least I know where they’re coming from, and they’re writing for themselves rather than cynically trying to nab subscribers by spouting right wing rhetoric.

    Yes these ones are very cynically pandering to what their small amount of subscribers want to hear. Quite scary. And they, like the mask one will just attempt to lie their way out of their lies, as with his comments on this film. All of his 'reports' on it will have been true, it's just that they entirely reshot the film because his brave reporting exposed how bad it was going to be so the version you see in cinemas will be completely different. That's why, honest. And it was all down to women or something.
  • Posts: 12,242
    I tell you all what. I wish we could just enjoy movies without all this nonsense.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
    edited March 2023 Posts: 7,999
    talos7 wrote: »
    YouTube critics are never to be taken seriously.

    I remember there was a critic that wrote long film essays in all caps because his shtick was that he talks The Incredible Hulk. “HULK SAYS…” and so on. That guy had a huge following and so many I knew told me how great his essays were but I could never get past his all caps shtick. And whenever I tried I heard it in “Hulk” voice. It was so obnoxious to try to read.

    This is why I try sticking to professional critics, or at least one that seems reasonable in their approach to film. Not all of them are perfect. I loved Roger Ebert’s writing, but even he could go over the top when he despised something. But at least I know where they’re coming from, and they’re writing for themselves rather than cynically trying to nab subscribers by spouting right wing rhetoric.

    While others spew , and bathe in left wing, progressive rhetoric; I guess there’s something for everyone. 😉

    YouTube seems to be predominantly right wing, but even that said I avoid the left leaning and go find professional critics who approach things with less of a political bent.

    I don’t like RedLetterMedia, but they always tried to be true to themselves rather than pander to either spectrum.
    FoxRox wrote: »
    I tell you all what. I wish we could just enjoy movies without all this nonsense.

    Gotta click to subscribe!!! Reaffirm my politicks!
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    I have thoughts on this but think it’s better to disengage.

    Bring on Indiana Jones; I’m hopeful for a fun ride.

  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    I hope most people try to enjoy it without preconceived notions.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Gotta click to subscribe!!! Reaffirm my politicks!
    Isn't it more like "Gotta click to subscribe to reaffirm your politics!"? Choose the critics that fit one's own bubble?

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,368
    I'll be going into it with as open a mindset as I can. I'm really, really hopeful that it's a beautiful sendoff that's beautiful and exciting at the same time. Barring another trip to see John Wick: Chapter 4 once more, I think this'll be my next visit to the theaters.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    j_w_pepper wrote: »
    Gotta click to subscribe!!! Reaffirm my politicks!
    Isn't it more like "Gotta click to subscribe to reaffirm your politics!"? Choose the critics that fit one's own bubble?

    That’s sorta what I meant haha
  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
    Posts: 13,882
    I don't understand why people have hate boners for Youtube commentators (for want of a better phrase). If you don't like it, don't watch it. Life is if too short, go and jerk your gherkin to something you like.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 14,861
    They spread lies, the type of which can damage films. See Michael Wilson saying how he thought the 'CraigNotBond' stuff had an adverse impact on the box office on Casino Royale in the 'Being James Bond' doco.
    It's not about 'boners' or jerking off.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    Posts: 7,888
    I don't understand why people have hate boners for Youtube commentators (for want of a better phrase). If you don't like it, don't watch it. Life is if too short, go and jerk your gherkin to something you like.

    Lol, so true, they just can’t move on. Lol.
  • MakeshiftPythonMakeshiftPython “Baja?!”
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    A lot of them are grifters trying to placate to their base, often using false information which then gets spread by their followers. I remember Midnights Edge tried spreading false info about how MGM conducted massive reshoots of NTTD because of a supposed test audience reacting negatively over it being “too woke”. Of course it’s all bogus, but their followers take their “scoops” at face value.

    I doubt most of those YouTubers even believe in what they spout. They just try to keep their numbers up. There was one that was ready to bash AVATAR 2 because of its association with Disney, and then completely flipped the script by claiming it was successful at the box office because it’s “anti-woke”.

    It’s all hilarious.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited March 2023 Posts: 14,861
    talos7 wrote: »
    I don't understand why people have hate boners for Youtube commentators (for want of a better phrase). If you don't like it, don't watch it. Life is if too short, go and jerk your gherkin to something you like.

    Lol, so true, they just can’t move on. Lol.
    talos7 wrote: »
    YouTube critics are never to be taken seriously.

    I remember there was a critic that wrote long film essays in all caps because his shtick was that he talks The Incredible Hulk. “HULK SAYS…” and so on. That guy had a huge following and so many I knew told me how great his essays were but I could never get past his all caps shtick. And whenever I tried I heard it in “Hulk” voice. It was so obnoxious to try to read.

    This is why I try sticking to professional critics, or at least one that seems reasonable in their approach to film. Not all of them are perfect. I loved Roger Ebert’s writing, but even he could go over the top when he despised something. But at least I know where they’re coming from, and they’re writing for themselves rather than cynically trying to nab subscribers by spouting right wing rhetoric.

    While others spew , and bathe in left wing, progressive rhetoric; I guess there’s something for everyone. 😉



    You can hardly act like you haven't been beating off too (I guess if we're using this charming turn of phrase).
    A lot of them are grifters trying to placate to their base, often using false information which then gets spread by their followers. I remember Midnights Edge tried spreading false info about how MGM conducted massive reshoots of NTTD because of a supposed test audience reacting negatively over it being “too woke”. Of course it’s all bogus, but their followers take their “scoops” at face value.

    I doubt most of those YouTubers even believe in what they spout. They just try to keep their numbers up. There was one that was ready to bash AVATAR 2 because of its association with Disney, and then completely flipped the script by claiming it was successful at the box office because it’s “anti-woke”.

    It’s all hilarious.

    Yeah I'm hardly going to respect liars, no matter how much that's inferred to be akin to masturbation(?). Life is too short to put up with them.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    Posts: 40,368
    I don't understand why people have hate boners for Youtube commentators (for want of a better phrase). If you don't like it, don't watch it. Life is if too short, go and jerk your gherkin to something you like.

    I personally don't get any of the YouTube obsession over any of these folks, whether they're trashing a film that's a year from release or otherwise. I have no stake in the game and couldn't care less about their videos but people seem to really eat them up, especially when they're soaked in drama and controversy.
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