Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (30th June 2023)

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  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    She looks incredible.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    I'm not sure I've seen her in anything before. Hopefully she crushes it as she seems to be taking on a major role here.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    edited November 2022 Posts: 4,207
    mtm wrote: »
    Nice new pic. It seems that Helena is a bit of a screwball, con-woman type. Sounds fun.

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    Denbigh wrote: »
    She looks incredible.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm not sure I've seen her in anything before. Hopefully she crushes it as she seems to be taking on a major role here.

    I agree that she does look incredible. Phoebe has written and headlined a few TV shows, including NTTD for us. I wonder if she had a hand in the screenplay for Indy 5.
  • SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷SecretAgentMan⁰⁰⁷ Lekki, Lagos, Nigeria
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    Waller-Bridge sort of looks like Eva Green.
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    That’s a pair of very good looking people <3
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited November 2022 Posts: 15,369
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Nice new pic. It seems that Helena is a bit of a screwball, con-woman type. Sounds fun.

    FiGk5GaXkAEwJZz?format=jpg&name=large
    Denbigh wrote: »
    She looks incredible.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm not sure I've seen her in anything before. Hopefully she crushes it as she seems to be taking on a major role here.

    I agree that she does look incredible. Phoebe has written and headlined a few TV shows, including NTTD for us. I wonder if she had a hand in the screenplay for Indy 5.

    It hasn't been mentioned if she has, but I guess scripts get polished all the time and the persons responsible don't get credited. Last Crusade had its script worked over by Tom Stoppard no less, and apparently he was responsible for making that script really work (Spielberg said he wrote pretty much every line of dialogue, and it's packed full of classic lines). Hopefully they've got this one just right too- I think an Indy film really needs a deft script.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    FoxRox wrote: »
    Is time travel really that far fetched with the miraculous stuff we’ve seen in all the other movies? I’m open to it if done well. Happy that the Nazis are returning, officially making all the odd numbered Indy films the ones with them and Sallah. Other than the supposed leaked ending, I think the rest has been reason for excitement.

    Exactly. We had the Ark that melted faces. A bloodthirsty cult in which the leader literally was ripping hearts out. The Holy Grail that turns folks to dust by drinking the wrong one and aliens.

    But yes, time travel is where it's going to far🙃

    I'm in the minority of enjoying Crystal Skull and I think that plotline is as far fetched as an Indiana Jones plot could go.

    I'm reading this just a little too late but I can subscribe to every single line of it.
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Nice new pic. It seems that Helena is a bit of a screwball, con-woman type. Sounds fun.
    Denbigh wrote: »
    She looks incredible.
    Creasy47 wrote: »
    I'm not sure I've seen her in anything before. Hopefully she crushes it as she seems to be taking on a major role here.

    I agree that she does look incredible. Phoebe has written and headlined a few TV shows, including NTTD for us. I wonder if she had a hand in the screenplay for Indy 5.

    Agreed. I knew about her script involvement for NTTD but never knew she was also an actress.l
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    She's very good, especially deft at comedy, as shown in her own show Fleabag (which also mixes in a good amount of drama too). I have no worries about her performance in this.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    I'm looking forward to her and Harrison doing press as well.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Yeah I've only heard amazing things about Fleabag but haven't seen anything from it yet.
  • TokyToky The Netherlands
    edited November 2022 Posts: 8
    She also wrote the first season of Killing Eve, which was amazing…
    +Fleabag is hilarious…
    This woman is gold.. However I dont think she helped writing on the script…she polished the female roles for NTTD, which was what I heard…they should definitly give her a try for a full script…
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Incidentally I found this rather good breakdown of the additions and changes Stoppard made to the Last Crusade script. It's very interesting and clear how much value he added.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lYCyyI3DeJPW9-Md-G-SlyXCqyGY9iMwSEyfzjHFeOs/edit#gid=0

    This is a bit of a précis of it.
    https://boingboing.net/2021/01/19/writing-lessons-from-tom-stoppards-script-doctoring-on-indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade.html
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    Incidentally I found this rather good breakdown of the additions and changes Stoppard made to the Last Crusade script. It's very interesting and clear how much value he added.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lYCyyI3DeJPW9-Md-G-SlyXCqyGY9iMwSEyfzjHFeOs/edit#gid=0

    This is a bit of a précis of it.
    https://boingboing.net/2021/01/19/writing-lessons-from-tom-stoppards-script-doctoring-on-indiana-jones-and-the-last-crusade.html

    He should have been credited with the screenplay.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yes, but it seems that's not how script doctoring works a lot of the time. I don't really understand the crediting process.

    It's interesting that apparently some of the ideas in the earlier script came from, among others, Sean Connery.
  • edited November 2022 Posts: 440
    mtm wrote: »
    Yes, but it seems that's not how script doctoring works a lot of the time. I don't really understand the crediting process.

    It's interesting that apparently some of the ideas in the earlier script came from, among others, Sean Connery.

    Part of the reason is that Stoppard would then have to be paid additional royalties.

    And in some cases, writers might get offended at having to split their check with someone who just inserted some gags and edits into their script. Not that this is always the case, of course.

    So typically script doctors tend to get paid a very large fee (sometimes even more than the original writer) in one lump sum, slightly 'under the table'.

    The rule of thumb with who gets credited with what on a movie is almost always "what will cause the studio the least amount of headaches with their creatives and the film guilds?"
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Nice…
  • mattjoesmattjoes At my most trollish behavior
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    The tie is back from Last Crusade. I love it.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
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    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"
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    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"

    That would make the most sense
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    mattjoes wrote: »
    The tie is back from Last Crusade. I love it.

    It’s actually the same costume designer, amazingly.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
    edited November 2022 Posts: 8,072
    Risico007 wrote: »
    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"

    That would make the most sense

    When it comes to a title, If they continue what has already been established , it will contain an object or location related to the quest. So far we’ve had an Ark. a Temple, a Grail and a Skull.
  • BennyBenny In the shadowsAdministrator, Moderator
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    mtm wrote: »
    800-indy.jpg?q=80&w=850

    Love this pic.
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited November 2022 Posts: 1,489
    talos7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"

    That would make the most sense

    When it comes to a title, If they continue what has already been established , it will contain an object or location related to the quest. So far we’ve had an Ark. a Temple, a Grail and a Skull.

    INDIANA JONES and THE FINAL TOTEM

    INDIANA JONES and THE BROKEN CLOCK


  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    talos7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"

    That would make the most sense

    When it comes to a title, If they continue what has already been established , it will contain an object or location related to the quest. So far we’ve had an Ark. a Temple, a Grail and a Skull.

    The grail wasn’t in the title though. As you say, the titles usually have a location as the main subject of the phrase (two of them), the quest itself (one of them) or the people going on the quest (one of them) - I’m ignoring the ‘Indiana Jones and the..’ bit obviously!
    So any title which says just Indiana Jones and the Spear or Destiny or whatever doesn’t really fit the pattern we’ve had previously. It’s a bit dull if it’s just an object, more dynamic if it’s a dangerous place to go to or an actual quest or activity.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'd be surprised if "Quest" isn't in the title at this point, considering its prominence in all the materials so far.

    Just a hunch, but it hasn't been in any of the titles so far and it fits Indiana Jones nicely.
  • Posts: 15,907
    I'd be surprised if "Quest" isn't in the title at this point, considering its prominence in all the materials so far.

    Just a hunch, but it hasn't been in any of the titles so far and it fits Indiana Jones nicely.

    INDIANA JONES AND THE QUEST FOR PEACE.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    mtm wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    Risico007 wrote: »
    "Indiana Jones and the Last Quest"

    That would make the most sense

    When it comes to a title, If they continue what has already been established , it will contain an object or location related to the quest. So far we’ve had an Ark. a Temple, a Grail and a Skull.

    The grail wasn’t in the title though. As you say, the titles usually have a location as the main subject of the phrase (two of them), the quest itself (one of them) or the people going on the quest (one of them) - I’m ignoring the ‘Indiana Jones and the..’ bit obviously!
    So any title which says just Indiana Jones and the Spear or Destiny or whatever doesn’t really fit the pattern we’ve had previously. It’s a bit dull if it’s just an object, more dynamic if it’s a dangerous place to go to or an actual quest or activity.

    Lol, I had a brain hiccup.
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