Things you always wondering about in a Bond film

MrBondMrBond Station S
edited March 2011 in Bond Movies Posts: 2,043
I hope that this tread doesen't exits already....
One thing i always have wonder about is if Ouromov is in team with Alec from the beginning in GE, and if Alec had already created the " Janus Group " at that time?

The second thing is, which person is it who takes the dead admirals identity in Monaco aboard the military ship?

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    In answer to the first question is yes,the fake shooting of 006 proves this to be the case,Trevalyn is only injured because Bond shortened the fuse times.
    the second question is more difficult to answer,and there was a large thread on this on the old forum i think.Personally i think it is 006 and he then steals the Tiger helicopter with Onatopp.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
    edited March 2011 Posts: 2,043
    But Ouromov get's from the helicopter in Severnaya, right?
  • doubleonothingdoubleonothing Los Angeles Moderator
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    Indeed, Alec is in league with Ourumov from the start. His "death" in the PTS was to allow him to be reported killed in action, which in turn would allow him to set up the Janus syndicate. He chose the name Janus (the two-faced Roman god) after the Arkhangelsk facility was destroyed, scarring him on one side of his face, implying that the Janus syndicate was formed after that event.

    The person who takes the dead admiral's identity is supposedly Ourumov, although there has been a case argued that it was, in fact, Alec. However, if you consider that Ourumov and Xenia arrive together in the stolen Tiger at Severnaya, it is quite likely that it was Ourumov that was the other person involved in the theft, operating on Alec's orders, although this is fairly open to interpretation, I think.
  • edited March 2011 Posts: 19,339
    He does but i'm not sure they flew there immediately - it's a tough one.
    The swaggering walk as the 2 'pilots' walk to the helicopter before they steal it would make me think its 006 ,but that could just be my interpretation of it.
  • HASEROTHASEROT has returned like the tedious inevitability of an unloved season---
    edited March 2011 Posts: 4,399
    Ouromov was taller than Xenia i believe - the person who steals the helicopter with Xenia is roughly the same height, or a little taller...

    my belief is, is that it's 006 and Xenia who steal the Tiger... then, they find a safe port somewhere, where Ouromov takes over with Xenia, as he would have clearance to the Severnaya base..

    because if it was a straight flight through - how would they change clothes mid flight??.. not to mention, Monte Carlo to Severnaya (somewhere in Siberia) would suck up a large amount of fuel.. they would've had to have stopped somewhere, to ensure they had enough fuel to get there and then leave quickly..
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Right, i wonder how MI6 couldn't detect that Alec and Ouromov was " partners "
    And, Ouromov and that general isn't that similair in their appearels. Still there is some question marks!
  • doubleonothingdoubleonothing Los Angeles Moderator
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    I am inclined to believe it is Alec that steals the Tiger, as otherwise what's the mystery? Why not show his face? But most accounts seem to suggest it is Ourumov. I think it's cooler if it is Alec, but then I guess it doesn't really matter. The ultimate person behind the theft if Alec, after all.
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    Hmm, true. But it is kinda confusing.
  • doubleonothingdoubleonothing Los Angeles Moderator
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    Not as confusing as say OP or TLD though!
  • MrBondMrBond Station S
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    I actually find both OP and TLD as two movies thar are very clear. What are thinking about?
  • NicNacNicNac Moderator
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    OK, here is my admittance.
    In CR, Bond kills the African chappie and the body is stuffed in the trunk of a car. The police are alerted and the body found whilst Bond watches from the balcony. Yep?
    Well, my question is (and I've never ever figured this), who was the dude who owned the car and was arrested on the spot?

    I know it's probably obvious, but it gets me every time.
  • Quoting NicNac: OK, here is my admittance.

    In CR, Bond kills the African chappie and the body is stuffed in the trunk of a car. The police are alerted and the body found whilst Bond watches from the balcony. Yep?

    Well, my question is (and I've never ever figured this), who was the dude who owned the car and was arrested on the spot?



    I know it's probably obvious, but it gets me every time.
    I always assumed it was one of Le Chiffre's henchmen.
  • NicNacNicNac Moderator
    edited March 2011 Posts: 7,329
    Quoting thegiantcookie: I always assumed it was one of Le Chiffre's henchmen


    Cheers for the reply @thegiantcookie. I just couldn't figure which one from the film.
  • doubleonothingdoubleonothing Los Angeles Moderator
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    He's the guy in the background to this shot. A henchman of Le Chiffre's

    http://screenmusings.org/CasinoRoyale/pages/CR_0813.htm

    Here he is getting arrested

    http://screenmusings.org/CasinoRoyale/pages/CR_0948.htm
  • NicNacNicNac Moderator
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    HAHA! Brillaint. cheers dublo. My knowledge of Bond films is now absolutely perfect!!!n (spot the irony..I need a suitable smiley :> Oh it'll do)
  • DiscoVolanteDiscoVolante Stockholm, SwedenModerator
    edited March 2011 Posts: 1,346
    This isn't news. Moved to "Bond movies"
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Ostandia
    edited January 2016 Posts: 39,983
    Forgot.

    Damn! Posted in the wrong thread.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    edited January 2016 Posts: 18,935
    Thread closed by the majority vote of our members active in this thread:
    http://www.mi6community.com/index.php?p=/discussion/comment/545405#Comment_545405
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