James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy

MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
edited June 8 in Literary 007 Posts: 5,045
https://www.thetimes.com/culture/books/article/james-bond-will-return-on-the-page-0k2h7zd7f

The Sunday Times can reveal that the crime writer MW Craven has just been signed to write a new series of Bond books aimed at 8 to 12-year-olds. The first, James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy, will be published next June. It will feature a retired Bond, his licence to kill revoked, training a new generation of teenage spies.

Wasn’t on my bingo card for what IFP had in store for novels, but I’m not mad about it. I am curious where this will go. I appreciate that IFP is trying to do something to help create the next generation of Bond fans. I'm sure an Adult Bond novel is in the works.

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  • Quite frustrating news to be honest: spy-kids have already been done with Bond and spy academies/teams never really meet the heights of a solo spy adventure. What does this series bring that young Bond didn't? Add the fact that there will obviously be no sex, driving, or alcohol and with the existing ground there's almost nowhere new to go.

    At this point, IFP are sort of diluting the source here. Before we had at most two authors working at once on pretty Bond-centric stories. Now? 00-series, Q series, Leiter series and now a training series. And pretty much no Bond in sight for the lot of them.

    I discovered Bond because he was popular. That popularity triggered me to try a novel at a young age. For me, it was Devil May Care. I don't think catering to kids with something far away from what the ethos of Bond is will get them hooked on Bond. It'll just get them hooked on something else!
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 459
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.thetimes.com/culture/books/article/james-bond-will-return-on-the-page-0k2h7zd7f

    The Sunday Times can reveal that the crime writer MW Craven has just been signed to write a new series of Bond books aimed at 8 to 12-year-olds. The first, James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy, will be published next June. It will feature a retired Bond, his licence to kill revoked, training a new generation of teenage spies.

    Wasn’t on my bingo card for what IFP had in store for novels, but I’m not mad about it. I am curious where this will go. I appreciate that IFP is trying to do something to created the next generation of Bond fans. One of my first exposures to Bond was a Jane Bond Jr kids book. So it does work!

    Sounds godawful.
  • Posts: 5,378
    Sounds s*it 😂
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,756
    This is another dross sounding idea. Yet again IFP are shown to want to write about anything other than James Bond as we've come to know him from Ian Fleming and his literary heirs. It's sad to see this and there seems to be no end in sight for this literary Bond desert.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
    Posts: 15,159
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    "How kind of you, IFP. The children will be so thrilled."

    Seriously though, if this helps create new Bond fans from an early age as well as getting them off their phones for a while then I'm all for it.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 8 Posts: 18,199
    I’ll keep an open mind, but the concept seems to reinforce the idea that Bond himself is old hat to me, rather than reinventing him for a new generation. I’m not sure about it.
    Of the two new 007 projects this week (how is that guy suing for lack of use of the trademark?!), First Light seems like the one which is more likely to bring Bond up to date.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
    Posts: 14,481
    Not my interest. And I'm not the target audience.

    Looking back through Bond history I do appreciate injects like The Adventures of James Bond Junior: 003½, James Bond Jr cartoon/comics/books, the Find Your Fate Series, and other oddities. I don't connect them to the official films and novels.

    Maybe Bond will be an enigma to the students, they react to him but he's not so directly present.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited June 8 Posts: 3,935
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    https://www.thetimes.com/culture/books/article/james-bond-will-return-on-the-page-0k2h7zd7f

    The Sunday Times can reveal that the crime writer MW Craven has just been signed to write a new series of Bond books aimed at 8 to 12-year-olds. The first, James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy, will be published next June. It will feature a retired Bond, his licence to kill revoked, training a new generation of teenage spies.

    Wasn’t on my bingo card for what IFP had in store for novels, but I’m not mad about it. I am curious where this will go. I appreciate that IFP is trying to do something to help create the next generation of Bond fans. I'm sure an Adult Bond novel is in the works.

    This is interesting.
    But looking at Bond's personality, he's not the one who would likely to interact with younger people, especially teenagers (as described in that article), Bond is a man who preferred a solitary life, I think Bond's Jamaican retirement in NTTD is a much more accurate of showing what Bond's retirement life would've looked like.
    But who knows? Maybe they could've done it right and would actually be good at the end, I'm not going to judge it yet, not at least until I've read it.
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    Like most things, it all comes down to execution. I don’t mind the idea at all. If all roads lead to Rome, then the point of any spin-off work or continuation is to guide people back to the source material. I mean, any continuation that’s not innovated by the original creator is a money-making venture. One hopes that the continuation, at least, does service to the original creation, which this could, and most IFP releases do.
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    In principle, you can do whatever you want with Bond. Make him older, make him younger. Put him in different time periods etc. We've seen all this before, but ultimately the work itself has to hold up.

    Personally, I don't get the sense this is a Young Bond type thing (those books they were generally well written and gripping, although a bit outlandish, and I doubt they were the reason many young Bond fans are... well, fans today. They were good in my opinion though). The truth is I doubt any property under the current IFP will attract many new fans, and these spin offs are a bizarre and fruitless endeavour to a side of this franchise relatively few are invested in anyway.
  • Posts: 445
    007HallY wrote: »
    In principle, you can do whatever you want with Bond. Make him older, make him younger. Put him in different time periods etc. We've seen all this before, but ultimately the work itself has to hold up.

    Personally, I don't get the sense this is a Young Bond type thing (those books they were generally well written and gripping, although a bit outlandish, and I doubt they were the reason many young Bond fans are... well, fans today. They were good in my opinion though). The truth is I doubt any property under the current IFP will attract many new fans, and these spin offs are a bizarre and fruitless endeavour to a side of this franchise relatively few are invested in anyway.

    Maybe. Maybe not. Probably so. But you never know. So why not try it if the concept is compelling enough and the writing up to snuff? In a post EON Bond-world, it may be in IFP’s interest to take Amazon’s ambitions seriously, and their recent projects may suggest that they do: Double-O spinoff, Q’s own adventure, Felix Leiter’s continuation, Young Bond, Retired Bond. I suppose if IFP can pull it off, I’d rather their curated and shepherded projects serve as templates, if not direct adaptations, of Amazon’s inevitable sequels and prequels, and universe-building adaptions and interconnected multimedia.

    I guess, in short, what I’m trying to ask is, all things being equal, and anything not done being unknown, why not? Why not do as much as possible to ensure that Fleming stays relevant. Aside from not producing an award-deserving biopic, IFP have done a good job at contextualizing Fleming, wherever possible, within theaters of war, journalism, soldering, literature, film, politics, espionage and celebrity. They’ve successfully, and rightfully, positioned Fleming as the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle of his day.

    He’s not relevant, as in widely popular (although his creation is), but his place in history is coming into ever clearer focus and importance; his works are enshrined as a testament to their time and genre; he’s the father of one of the most recognizable icons across literature and film and pop culture. The legacy is solidified and looks to be entering an unexpected, yet promising, new phase. So why not try something experimental and fun? While these things need to deliver, most essentially in quality, it’s been 70 years. One new fan is one new fan.
  • Posts: 887
    I must admit, Bond teaching/explaining spycraft has some a potentiel.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Being chauffeured by Tibbett
    Posts: 799
    Suppose it's not a bad way to bring younger readers to the series.

    Every kid my age loved these books:

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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 9 Posts: 18,199
    Full announcement here:

    https://www.ianfleming.com/announcing-james-bond-and-the-secret-agent-academy/?v=7885444af42e

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    Simon Ward, Publishing Director at Ian Fleming Publications, says: “We are always looking for stories we want to read: stories that have everything we love from Ian Fleming’s legendary James Bond adventures but with new characters and new settings that Ian would approve of. This is a James Bond story unlike any other we’ve done: a world of twisted villains, extremely silly names and bizarre gadgets but with a contemporary setting and a cast of young heroes children can relate to. For this we needed an author unlike any we’ve had before: M.W. Craven is the perfect combination of fierce intelligence, nail-biting action and mischievous humour. Not only is he the perfect adult thriller writer, it turns out that he is also a born children’s author. This is a series that kids and grownups alike will love. We look forward to welcoming all new recruits.”
  • edited June 9 Posts: 9,962
    Sigh

    So like seriously am i so out of touch that wanting a modern day spy thriller featuring James Bond as the protagonist is just not what anyone else wants? Really?
  • LucknFateLucknFate 007 In New York
    edited June 9 Posts: 1,942
    I want Bond Prime. Won't be happy until I get it. I want to make that clear to them. You could excuse this bullcrap if they were making something good, too.
  • edited June 9 Posts: 5,378
    Burgess wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    In principle, you can do whatever you want with Bond. Make him older, make him younger. Put him in different time periods etc. We've seen all this before, but ultimately the work itself has to hold up.

    Personally, I don't get the sense this is a Young Bond type thing (those books they were generally well written and gripping, although a bit outlandish, and I doubt they were the reason many young Bond fans are... well, fans today. They were good in my opinion though). The truth is I doubt any property under the current IFP will attract many new fans, and these spin offs are a bizarre and fruitless endeavour to a side of this franchise relatively few are invested in anyway.

    Maybe. Maybe not. Probably so. But you never know. So why not try it if the concept is compelling enough and the writing up to snuff? In a post EON Bond-world, it may be in IFP’s interest to take Amazon’s ambitions seriously, and their recent projects may suggest that they do: Double-O spinoff, Q’s own adventure, Felix Leiter’s continuation, Young Bond, Retired Bond. I suppose if IFP can pull it off, I’d rather their curated and shepherded projects serve as templates, if not direct adaptations, of Amazon’s inevitable sequels and prequels, and universe-building adaptions and interconnected multimedia.

    I guess, in short, what I’m trying to ask is, all things being equal, and anything not done being unknown, why not? Why not do as much as possible to ensure that Fleming stays relevant. Aside from not producing an award-deserving biopic, IFP have done a good job at contextualizing Fleming, wherever possible, within theaters of war, journalism, soldering, literature, film, politics, espionage and celebrity. They’ve successfully, and rightfully, positioned Fleming as the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle of his day.

    He’s not relevant, as in widely popular (although his creation is), but his place in history is coming into ever clearer focus and importance; his works are enshrined as a testament to their time and genre; he’s the father of one of the most recognizable icons across literature and film and pop culture. The legacy is solidified and looks to be entering an unexpected, yet promising, new phase. So why not try something experimental and fun? While these things need to deliver, most essentially in quality, it’s been 70 years. One new fan is one new fan.

    The problem is even if Bond goes down an interconnected, world building, spin off route, I don't think IFP should be any sort of template for it. At least when you get successful spin offs (Batman's generally a good example with the Batman Beyond cartoon coming from the original Animated series - actually not far off this concept - and of course the recent Penguin series) there's genuinely a sense it's drawing off of the original works and expanding those stories. You can do whatever you want, but I'd argue there should always be a sense it's worthwhile. To me what IFP have been doing recently just feels like throwing a bunch of ideas at the wall in the hopes they get very specific audiences onboard (who may or may not have any interest in Bond anyway). A Felix Leiter spin off set in the 50s. A weird modern day Q murder mystery. Now whatever the hell this is. It feels a bit directionless and difficult to get completely new audiences invested.

    But like others have said perhaps many of us just aren't the audience. And it won't matter in the long run. If it fails it'll just be another little subchapter in James Bond history. Plenty of oddities in there.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 9 Posts: 18,199
    Yeah I think the idea of Bond spin-offs isn't a terrible one, but it does feel like they're just going around a bookshop, looking at what's popular and then just saying 'what if Thursday Murder Club, but Bond?'.
    Which is a strategy I guess, but you've got James Bond, which is a brand most book sellers would kill for. Do a big launch, get a big name to write it (celeb authors do sell I'm afraid) and it'll do fine, won't it?
  • edited June 9 Posts: 5,378
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think the idea of Bond spin-offs isn't a terrible one, but it does feel like they're just going around a bookshop, looking at what's popular and then just saying 'what if Thursday Murder Club, but Bond?'.
    Which is a strategy I guess, but you've got James Bond, which is a brand most book sellers would kill for. Do a big launch, get a big name to write it (celeb authors do sell I'm afraid) and it'll do fine, won't it?

    Yeah, I think that's the feel I get for this strategy. In principle, there's no reason any of these spin offs have to be connected to Bond, or at least that's the impression I get. It's tricky to get new, long term fans of this character if these spin offs have very little concept of him or what he's about.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 9 Posts: 18,199
    Yeah it's kind of like they're seeing Bond as their 'in' into becoming a publishing house with a broad portfolio of work in a variety of styles etc., rather than using the Bond brand for it's own sake. I'm not 100% convinced it's the right way around.

    Something like the Q Mysteries presumably hinges on an older demographic's affection for watching a Bond film on a bank holiday, does it? It's not really aimed at Ian Fleming readers, and you'll get a certain percentage of Bond fans anyway, it seems more for the Thursday Murder crowd. I tend to think a better way might be to pay Amazon for the rights to Roger Moore's image for the cover and get a famous comedy writer (Walliams?) to write a sort of knowing, warm pastiche of an unmade Roger film or something like that if you're aiming for that sort of person, because I'm not convinced they're interested in Bond enough to pick up a Q book.
    Actually, unless he's all signed up to a particular publishing house, I would not rule out a Walliams book in any form. I bet you they've tried to get him.
  • Red_SnowRed_Snow Australia
    Posts: 2,575
    And to think Bond fans were worried Amazon would mine the Bond IP for every spin-off possible, meanwhile it's IFP that are right there feeding ideas to a greedy mega corp - no doubt with a share of the pie in mind.

    Very disappointing to think this is the route they've chosen to broaden Bond's reach and introduce the character to new readers.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    Posts: 18,756
    Risico007 wrote: »
    Sigh

    So like seriously am i so out of touch that wanting a modern day spy thriller featuring James Bond as the protagonist is just not what anyone else wants? Really?

    I think it's what the majority of literary Bond fans want but regrettably it doesn't seem to be what IFP wants to focus on at the current time.
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    If James Bond is going to be in the public domain, I understand that they are looking for ways to protect it.
  • ArapahoeBondFanArapahoeBondFan Colorado
    Posts: 121
    The Times adds that the series will be aimed at "8 to 12-year-olds" and that the books will attack some of Bond's outdated values. "I’m going to have the children challenge him...they will know how to use new gadgets that Bond doesn’t, so they will learn from each other," says author Craven. "If Fleming were writing today, he wouldn’t write Bond the same way.
    Sounds utterly stupid.
  • edited June 9 Posts: 5,378
    Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there's actually a good, Batman Beyond-esque idea in here. Maybe the next 007 is appointed and, during a mission, has to track down an old, retired James Bond, and he's roped back to help. Both learn something off of each other of course. Not the most original idea in the world, but I'm sure it could work as a little one off novel or series.

    It's just that everything about this is weird. The fact that they're all teenagers, the fact that it's aimed so aggressively at such younger readers (I could be wrong but in my experience younger age groups aren't ones that always react well when you're seen trying to 'pander' to them. Again, the Young Bond books are quite good in the sense they were generally for younger readers but didn't have that same pandering feel to them).
    The Times adds that the series will be aimed at "8 to 12-year-olds" and that the books will attack some of Bond's outdated values. "I’m going to have the children challenge him...they will know how to use new gadgets that Bond doesn’t, so they will learn from each other," says author Craven. "If Fleming were writing today, he wouldn’t write Bond the same way.
    Sounds utterly stupid.

    It's an odd little description of these books. I'm not sure how well judged it is phrasing it like that (it gives the impression Bond is old hat and these other characters are 'better'. Not saying Bond - old or young - shouldn't have flaws or opinions which are somewhat questionable, but I think this framing will just annoy people, even if in practice it's done well).
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 5,045
    A bit late, but here's "Moneypenny's" email version of the announcement.

    Memorandum sent 9/6/2025

    Classification: Gold level (For Your Eyes Only)

    To our agents in the field,

    Some of you may have noted a certain Double O’s absence from HQ as of late. Whilst you’d be forgiven for assuming that he was simply out on an extended mission, I’m afraid the truth is rather more... complicated. It’s too much for me to go into here, but we have a new recruit – Agent M.W. Craven – whose first assignment has been to transcribe all of the (frankly astounding) details, and our colleagues over at Ian Fleming Publications have just announced the result: James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy.

    Kicking off an action-packed new series for readers aged 8-12 (although judging by the reaction when it passed by M’s desk for approval ((he dropped his pipe)), it promises to appeal to more than just children), James Bond and the Secret Agent Academy is a major new 007 literary adventure. One that leads me to believe that Craven has been fully committing to his cover alias as a bestselling and award-winning thriller writer.

    Agents are reminded that the next episode in the digital serialisation of Raymond Benson’s Felix Leiter adventure The Hook and the Eye is released tomorrow. Benson has also been working on a series of videos that recap the events of the latest episode, and delve into plenty of behind-the-scenes details about the writing process for the story. You can watch the first one here – perfect for refreshing your memory of what happened in the tantalising and propulsive Episode 1.

    I also understand that more of the coveted Ian Fleming Notebooks will be released later this week, and I deciphered one communique that hinted at some new cover tones... Colour me intrigued. Keep an eye on Ian Fleming Publications’ social media channels for news of when they’re available.
    Sincerely,

    Miss Moneypenny
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 9 Posts: 18,199
    I wonder what the truth about Bond's absence being more complicated refers to. Is that purely within the fiction of the new books or some kind of hint that there’s been some sort of issue stopping them using him?
  • Posts: 445
    007HallY wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    In principle, you can do whatever you want with Bond. Make him older, make him younger. Put him in different time periods etc. We've seen all this before, but ultimately the work itself has to hold up.

    Personally, I don't get the sense this is a Young Bond type thing (those books they were generally well written and gripping, although a bit outlandish, and I doubt they were the reason many young Bond fans are... well, fans today. They were good in my opinion though). The truth is I doubt any property under the current IFP will attract many new fans, and these spin offs are a bizarre and fruitless endeavour to a side of this franchise relatively few are invested in anyway.

    Maybe. Maybe not. Probably so. But you never know. So why not try it if the concept is compelling enough and the writing up to snuff? In a post EON Bond-world, it may be in IFP’s interest to take Amazon’s ambitions seriously, and their recent projects may suggest that they do: Double-O spinoff, Q’s own adventure, Felix Leiter’s continuation, Young Bond, Retired Bond. I suppose if IFP can pull it off, I’d rather their curated and shepherded projects serve as templates, if not direct adaptations, of Amazon’s inevitable sequels and prequels, and universe-building adaptions and interconnected multimedia.

    I guess, in short, what I’m trying to ask is, all things being equal, and anything not done being unknown, why not? Why not do as much as possible to ensure that Fleming stays relevant. Aside from not producing an award-deserving biopic, IFP have done a good job at contextualizing Fleming, wherever possible, within theaters of war, journalism, soldering, literature, film, politics, espionage and celebrity. They’ve successfully, and rightfully, positioned Fleming as the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle of his day.

    He’s not relevant, as in widely popular (although his creation is), but his place in history is coming into ever clearer focus and importance; his works are enshrined as a testament to their time and genre; he’s the father of one of the most recognizable icons across literature and film and pop culture. The legacy is solidified and looks to be entering an unexpected, yet promising, new phase. So why not try something experimental and fun? While these things need to deliver, most essentially in quality, it’s been 70 years. One new fan is one new fan.

    The problem is even if Bond goes down an interconnected, world building, spin off route, I don't think IFP should be any sort of template for it. At least when you get successful spin offs (Batman's generally a good example with the Batman Beyond cartoon coming from the original Animated series - actually not far off this concept - and of course the recent Penguin series) there's genuinely a sense it's drawing off of the original works and expanding those stories. You can do whatever you want, but I'd argue there should always be a sense it's worthwhile. To me what IFP have been doing recently just feels like throwing a bunch of ideas at the wall in the hopes they get very specific audiences onboard (who may or may not have any interest in Bond anyway). A Felix Leiter spin off set in the 50s. A weird modern day Q murder mystery. Now whatever the hell this is. It feels a bit directionless and difficult to get completely new audiences invested.

    But like others have said perhaps many of us just aren't the audience. And it won't matter in the long run. If it fails it'll just be another little subchapter in James Bond history. Plenty of oddities in there.

    I’m confused how this new project, or any other, from IFP is all that different from what Batman is doing or has done. I’m genuinely confused how a book series about Bond training new recruits is somehow so far off from something like Batman Beyond. If you don’t like the concept, then fair enough. But I’m not seeing the problem. If you’re OK with Batman continually updating, expanding and probing its mythology for new takes, then I don’t get the distinction you’re making when it comes to Bond.


  • Posts: 5,378
    Burgess wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    Burgess wrote: »
    007HallY wrote: »
    In principle, you can do whatever you want with Bond. Make him older, make him younger. Put him in different time periods etc. We've seen all this before, but ultimately the work itself has to hold up.

    Personally, I don't get the sense this is a Young Bond type thing (those books they were generally well written and gripping, although a bit outlandish, and I doubt they were the reason many young Bond fans are... well, fans today. They were good in my opinion though). The truth is I doubt any property under the current IFP will attract many new fans, and these spin offs are a bizarre and fruitless endeavour to a side of this franchise relatively few are invested in anyway.

    Maybe. Maybe not. Probably so. But you never know. So why not try it if the concept is compelling enough and the writing up to snuff? In a post EON Bond-world, it may be in IFP’s interest to take Amazon’s ambitions seriously, and their recent projects may suggest that they do: Double-O spinoff, Q’s own adventure, Felix Leiter’s continuation, Young Bond, Retired Bond. I suppose if IFP can pull it off, I’d rather their curated and shepherded projects serve as templates, if not direct adaptations, of Amazon’s inevitable sequels and prequels, and universe-building adaptions and interconnected multimedia.

    I guess, in short, what I’m trying to ask is, all things being equal, and anything not done being unknown, why not? Why not do as much as possible to ensure that Fleming stays relevant. Aside from not producing an award-deserving biopic, IFP have done a good job at contextualizing Fleming, wherever possible, within theaters of war, journalism, soldering, literature, film, politics, espionage and celebrity. They’ve successfully, and rightfully, positioned Fleming as the Sir Arthur Conan Doyle of his day.

    He’s not relevant, as in widely popular (although his creation is), but his place in history is coming into ever clearer focus and importance; his works are enshrined as a testament to their time and genre; he’s the father of one of the most recognizable icons across literature and film and pop culture. The legacy is solidified and looks to be entering an unexpected, yet promising, new phase. So why not try something experimental and fun? While these things need to deliver, most essentially in quality, it’s been 70 years. One new fan is one new fan.

    The problem is even if Bond goes down an interconnected, world building, spin off route, I don't think IFP should be any sort of template for it. At least when you get successful spin offs (Batman's generally a good example with the Batman Beyond cartoon coming from the original Animated series - actually not far off this concept - and of course the recent Penguin series) there's genuinely a sense it's drawing off of the original works and expanding those stories. You can do whatever you want, but I'd argue there should always be a sense it's worthwhile. To me what IFP have been doing recently just feels like throwing a bunch of ideas at the wall in the hopes they get very specific audiences onboard (who may or may not have any interest in Bond anyway). A Felix Leiter spin off set in the 50s. A weird modern day Q murder mystery. Now whatever the hell this is. It feels a bit directionless and difficult to get completely new audiences invested.

    But like others have said perhaps many of us just aren't the audience. And it won't matter in the long run. If it fails it'll just be another little subchapter in James Bond history. Plenty of oddities in there.

    I’m confused how this new project, or any other, from IFP is all that different from what Batman is doing or has done. I’m genuinely confused how a book series about Bond training new recruits is somehow so far off from something like Batman Beyond. If you don’t like the concept, then fair enough. But I’m not seeing the problem. If you’re OK with Batman continually updating, expanding and probing its mythology for new takes, then I don’t get the distinction you’re making when it comes to Bond.


    Batman Beyond followed on from the Animated Series, expanding on a version of the character that had been developed and audiences had an attachment to/knew. Penguin does this too with The Batman. They weren’t just randomly using an existing IP to appeal to a radically different age group, shoehorning it into a radically different genre, without any context. Even Young Bond made its connection to Fleming quite clear.

    Yes, there’s a big difference between this and those examples.
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