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Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)? Rotten Tomato Ranking battles!

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  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,616
    YOLT
  • echoecho 007 in New York
    Posts: 6,710
    YOLT.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 322
    LTK
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,811
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.
  • thedovethedove hiding in the Greek underworld
    Posts: 5,811
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.
  • peterpeter Toronto
    Posts: 9,596
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited 5:34pm Posts: 5,239
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    Oh, it's definitely interesting seeing how RT scores fare against a small portion of people on a fan site. I like thinking about why a 'majority' will have a lesser or better opinion of a film in comparison to me. Makes you reflect on the film, which is cool. Thanks as always for these!
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited 5:32pm Posts: 7,498
    thedove wrote: »
    GoldenGun wrote: »
    Just wondering what 'certified fresh' stands for? Because LALD, FYEO and NSNA are all considered fresh but not 'certified', where lies the difference then?

    I believe any film above 70% is certified fresh and then you are just fresh before you rotten.

    That's what I thought too, but then NSNA scores 71% and TLD 73%, the former isn't certified but the latter is.... You won't hear me complain since I adore TLD, I just can't figure out their criteria :p

    Anyway, I am quite enjoying this @thedove. Thanks for organising :)
  • 007ClassicBondFan007ClassicBondFan
    Posts: 2,533
    peter wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆

    I definitely see where you’re coming from @peter. All of that stuff in YOLT is superb - and I’m hard pressed to think of a climax that rivals the Volcano Lair Assault at the end of the film.

    For me, it comes down to the Bond actors for this battle - and while Classic Connery is in a league of his own, Dalton’s portrayal in LTK has grown to be one of my favorites on screen and I see it only going up as time goes by for me. In fact I walked away from both TLD and LTK this last time feeling as if Brosnan may have some serious competition for my favorite Bond.
  • AnotherZorinStoogeAnotherZorinStooge Bramhall (Irish)
    Posts: 322
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    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    The match-ups work on their own.
    peter wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    AnotherZorinStooge wrote: »
    thedove wrote: »
    It is a very ambitious film as a debut. They had wanted to shoot it for 4 years before they finally got it right. In some ways the material would have worked better for someone who had played the character for a film or two. They emphasized that this was Bond with touches of DN, FRWL, TB, etc. but this only seems to remind the audience this isn't Sean.

    Okay on to our next battle. I was surprised by the RT scores of both of these films.

    Would you rather watch LTK (79%) OR YOLT (73%)

    Dalton's last film bucks the tropes of the series and does something bold and brash. Cold blooded and not played for laughs this films has gotten better with age. At the time it was perhaps a step too far for some to appreciate and enjoy.

    Rotten Tomatoes says License to Kill is darker than many of the other Bond entries, with Timothy Dalton playing the character with intensity, but it still has some solid chases and fight scenes.

    OR

    Connery's second (or is it third) last time playing Bond. We have incredible sets, notably the volcano lair. A wonderful John Barry score adds to the feel of the film. A strong cast and the first appearance, no longer in the shadows, of Blofeld. Connery doesn't look engaged, but is that what the script calls for or the direction he was getting from Gilbert?

    Rotten Tomatoes states With exotic locales, impressive special effects, and a worthy central villain, You Only Live Twice overcomes a messy and implausible story to deliver another memorable early Bond flick.

    Which one would you rather watch?

    As an FYI, the certified fresh entries of the series are as follows GF, FRWL, GF, CR, DN, SF, TB, NTTD, TSWLM, OHMSS, GE, LTK, YOLT, and TLD. Our next battle will be a Certified Fresh film against a Fresh film.

    Can we just have the Bond-offs without invoking rotten tomatoes?

    It's shit.

    I thought it would be interesting as it creates some rather intriguing match ups. Sorry it doesn't work for you.

    You’ve taken the time to create a fun game, and the scoring from RT is a nice touch. No need to apologize, @thedove.

    And for this round: LTK is great, especially when Sanchez lets Bond step right in and create havoc, but the iconography of YOLT is just too awesome for me (going to Japan, the volcano lair, ninjas(!) (although LTK sprinkled their own in there as well— just not to the same effect…), assassins using knives, poisoning sleeping bodies, infiltrating Tanaka’s training school; underground trains as an extension of an office, piranhas …)…

    YOLT for the win 🏆

    Aye, LTK has all the characterisation and plot, whilst YOLT is little nellie and a volcano.

    LTK gets the nod as, despite its insistence of edge, it never stops daring to be fun.

    YOLT drags at times, but packs a punch alright.

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