The Best Ian Fleming Bond Novel Elimination Game

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  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,390
    Why you all wants OHMSS to win? 😅 I'm just curious, I mean maybe with the exception of @goldenswissroyale and maybe me, everyone seems upvoting it. Just curious 😅

    There's a lot here downvotes Casino Royale and even From Russia With Love.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 534
    Thursday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 23
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 10 (-2)
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 6 (+1)

    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 19

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 534
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Why you all wants OHMSS to win? 😅 I'm just curious, I mean maybe with the exception of @goldenswissroyale and maybe me, everyone seems upvoting it. Just curious 😅

    There's a lot here downvotes Casino Royale and even From Russia With Love.

    I've been pretty indifferent to OHMSS, I've been furiously trying to prop up TSWLM 😅 but I agree it's should be in the top 5. From my perspective it's a return to the 'classic' Bond adventure. It's my favourite of the Blofeld Trilogy for how tight the story is, and for Bond going undercover and the tension he's going to be found out. But the marriage to Tracy reflecting the shift to a more introspective Bond. Tracy is undoubtedly better in the film but with it being such a close adaptation it's two slide of the same coin, with the book I don't have to listen to Lazenby's accent or the dubbing thereof.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,390
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Why you all wants OHMSS to win? 😅 I'm just curious, I mean maybe with the exception of @goldenswissroyale and maybe me, everyone seems upvoting it. Just curious 😅

    There's a lot here downvotes Casino Royale and even From Russia With Love.

    I've been pretty indifferent to OHMSS, I've been furiously trying to prop up TSWLM 😅 but I agree it's should be in the top 5. From my perspective it's a return to the 'classic' Bond adventure. It's my favourite of the Blofeld Trilogy for how tight the story is, and for Bond going undercover and the tension he's going to be found out. But the marriage to Tracy reflecting the shift to a more introspective Bond. Tracy is undoubtedly better in the film but with it being such a close adaptation it's two slide of the same coin, with the book I don't have to listen to Lazenby's accent or the dubbing thereof.

    Yes, but plotwise, it's not as strong as FRWL, DN and CR.

    I mean is brainwashing allergic women to spread viruses is really that better than the likes of FRWL, CR, and DN? 😅

    Just curious, and it's been kind of a mystery to me, too.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,391
    Thursday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 23
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11 (+1)
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 4 (-2)

    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 19

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever

  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts: 1,334
    Controversial opinion: OHMSS movie is better than the novel. 🙂
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,390
    Slazenger7 wrote: »
    Controversial opinion: OHMSS movie is better than the novel. 🙂

    Yes, it is.....😊 100% 👍 it's an improvement!
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,390
    @CharmianBond you need to rescue your TSWLM, it's on the risk of dying!
  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
    Posts: 783
    I think OHMSS is the best Bond novel. Just because I think it is Flemings most well-written novel. Sure, it's not the strongest plot, but plot isn't everything. It has strong themes that Fleming manages to carry throughout the novel, while not once losing the suspense and adventure.

    CR is mythical just because it's the first, but I rarely find it that good when reading it. I love it for what it is, but it's not one of the better ones for me. All characters are rather weak, even Bond himself, and I really feel this is Fleming being new to writing. The plot is excellent and some chapters really shines, you can see something great in there that hasn't been refined yet, but as a suspense novel it doesn't flow.

    As thriller literature I really find OHMSS, FRWL and MR the best of the Bonds, but have a soft spot for the entertainment of DN and some others.
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 534
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    @CharmianBond you need to rescue your TSWLM, it's on the risk of dying!

    Oh no, I've already shot my bolt for today. I think it's better than Dr No personally but I'd be happy for it end up just shy of the top five. As for OHMSS even with Lazenby I would still take the film over the novel for Tracy alone, but Fleming lays such a good foundation. I agree with @Kronsteen it's wonderfully well written and I don't mind the weaker plot as Blofeld's clearly started his spiral into madness that culminates in YOLT.

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    Maybe a reread would change my opinion, but I also didn’t think CR was one of the best ones. I enjoy it a lot, but just have several I found more entertaining. I’m surprised but delighted to see how well TSWLM is doing. OHMSS I considered my favorite Bond novel, but I’m not 100% sure thanks to stiff competition from MR and DN.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,390
    Kronsteen wrote: »
    I think OHMSS is the best Bond novel. Just because I think it is Flemings most well-written novel. Sure, it's not the strongest plot, but plot isn't everything. It has strong themes that Fleming manages to carry throughout the novel, while not once losing the suspense and adventure.

    CR is mythical just because it's the first, but I rarely find it that good when reading it. I love it for what it is, but it's not one of the better ones for me. All characters are rather weak, even Bond himself, and I really feel this is Fleming being new to writing. The plot is excellent and some chapters really shines, you can see something great in there that hasn't been refined yet, but as a suspense novel it doesn't flow.

    As thriller literature I really find OHMSS, FRWL and MR the best of the Bonds, but have a soft spot for the entertainment of DN and some others.

    I disagree, Vesper is better than Tracy (who's absent in so many pages and inconsistent in terms of characterization), there's also a feeling that Vesper loves Bond, something that I don't see in Tracy (did she loved Bond?) Bond loved her, but Tracy? Did she loved Bond? Because I don't see it.

    Le Chiffre is also better villain than Blofeld.

    Mathis is at least never said anything regarding rape compared to Draco, Mathis is more friendly than Draco, more likeable.

    The only thing I liked in OHMSS are Bond (yes, he's really great, the way Fleming wrote him), and Fleming's writing.
  • edited March 2023 Posts: 2,880
    Thursday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 24 (+1)
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 2 (-2)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 19

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever


    Will admit, these are some pretty great Bond novels. TSWLM just happens to be the weakest for me (I'm actually more of a fan of it than others I've spoken to who have read it, it just has some flaws for me such as the ending).
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
    edited March 2023 Posts: 8,683
    Thursday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 22 (-2)
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 3 (-1)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 19

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,390
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 15 (+1)
    Moonraker: 22
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 3
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17 (-2)

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever

    I'd liked to upvote Dr. No and FRWL too, but I only have one chance.
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 15
    Moonraker: 23 (+1)
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 1 (-2)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever



  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    edited March 2023 Posts: 1,334
    Moonraker is my favorite, with FRWL as a very close second. Then it’s probably Casino Royale. I also have weak spots for LALD with the Voodoo theme and also like YOLT a lot with the whole garden of death and Blofeld in a japanese castle. Was very disappointed how they adapted this theme in NTTD :(
  • timdalton007timdalton007 North Alabama
    Posts: 154
    Thursday

    Casino Royale: 15
    Moonraker: 24 (+1)
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 11
    The Spy Who Loved Me: 0 (-2) ELIMINATED
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,609
    Thursday (3/16)

    Casino Royale: 14 (-1)
    Moonraker: 24
    From Russia With Love: 13 (-1)
    Doctor No: 12 (+1)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • Slazenger7Slazenger7 Gothenburg, Sweden
    Posts: 1,334
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 24
    From Russia With Love: 14 (+1)
    Doctor No: 10 (-2)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • CharmianBondCharmianBond Pett Bottom, Kent
    Posts: 534
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 24
    From Russia With Love: 15 (+1)
    Doctor No: 8 (-2)

    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Per ora e per il momento che verrà
    edited March 2023 Posts: 6,779
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 14
    Moonraker: 25 +1
    From Russia With Love: 15
    Doctor No: 6 (-2)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • Posts: 12,260
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 13 (-1)
    Moonraker: 25
    From Russia With Love: 14 (-1)
    Doctor No: 6
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 18 (+1)

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    Posts: 3,390
    @goldenswissroyale we need to work this out 😅
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
    Posts: 8,683
    Friday

    Casino Royale: 14 (+1)
    Moonraker: 23 (-2)

    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 6
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 18

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • KronsteenKronsteen Stockholm
    Posts: 783
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Kronsteen wrote: »
    I think OHMSS is the best Bond novel. Just because I think it is Flemings most well-written novel. Sure, it's not the strongest plot, but plot isn't everything. It has strong themes that Fleming manages to carry throughout the novel, while not once losing the suspense and adventure.

    CR is mythical just because it's the first, but I rarely find it that good when reading it. I love it for what it is, but it's not one of the better ones for me. All characters are rather weak, even Bond himself, and I really feel this is Fleming being new to writing. The plot is excellent and some chapters really shines, you can see something great in there that hasn't been refined yet, but as a suspense novel it doesn't flow.

    As thriller literature I really find OHMSS, FRWL and MR the best of the Bonds, but have a soft spot for the entertainment of DN and some others.

    I disagree, Vesper is better than Tracy (who's absent in so many pages and inconsistent in terms of characterization), there's also a feeling that Vesper loves Bond, something that I don't see in Tracy (did she loved Bond?) Bond loved her, but Tracy? Did she loved Bond? Because I don't see it.

    Le Chiffre is also better villain than Blofeld.

    Mathis is at least never said anything regarding rape compared to Draco, Mathis is more friendly than Draco, more likeable.

    The only thing I liked in OHMSS are Bond (yes, he's really great, the way Fleming wrote him), and Fleming's writing.

    Interesting, how different you can experience the same material! As we say in Sweden: the taste is like your bum - divided... (really bad translation, but there you go).

    Friday

    Casino Royale: 12 (-2)
    Moonraker: 23
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 6
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 19 (+1)

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    Posts: 4,391

    Friday

    Casino Royale: 12
    Moonraker: 23
    From Russia With Love: 14
    Doctor No: 7 (+1)
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 17 (-2)

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    @goldenswissroyale we need to work this out 😅
    I'll do my best...
  • marcmarc Universal Exports
    Posts: 2,609
    Friday (3/17)

    Casino Royale: 12
    Moonraker: 23
    From Russia With Love: 12 (-2)
    Doctor No: 7
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 18 (+1)

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
  • chrisisallchrisisall Brosnan Defender Of The Realm
    Posts: 17,687
    Friday (3/17)

    Casino Royale: 12
    Moonraker: 24 (+1)
    From Russia With Love: 10 (-2)
    Doctor No: 7
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 18

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever

    My last vote. I'll see where it goes from here after we boiled down to my 5 favourites.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited March 2023 Posts: 3,390
    Saturday

    Casino Royale: 12
    Moonraker: 24 (+1)
    From Russia With Love: 11 (+1)
    Doctor No: 7
    On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: 16 (-2)

    ELIMINATED:
    06. The Spy Who Loved Me
    07. You Only Live Twice
    08. For Your Eyes Only
    09. Live and Let Die
    10. Octopussy and The Living Daylights
    11. Thunderball
    12. The Man With The Golden Gun
    13. Goldfinger
    14. Diamonds Are Forever
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