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4. No Time To Die
5. Quantum of Solace
2. No Time to Die
(all 3 of similar value to me, hard to rank, 1st and the last unchanged since 2008 for me)
5. Quantum of Solace
CR- who is this short guy? Okay, a classic I guess.
QOS- am I watching a f**king Bourne movie? Oh, this is kinda great.
SF- uck, bad taste in my mouth, and not a lot of it makes sense. Still a bad taste.
SP- Wow, a fun one, that's different. Still like it despite the stupid s**t.
NTTD- what a well made slap in the face. Suddenly, SF isn't so bad...
It's funny, I always think we basically completely agree about Spectre, except in it's ultimate final score/place among the others!
SF- Top 3 first half, bottom 6 second half.
NTTD- I like it, then I dislike it..
SP- I dislike it.
QOS- Its crap
In some ways, SPECTRE is my favourite Craig Bond.
CR was too melodramatic. No Bond theme.
QOS was actually awesome IMO, but a bit disjointed & questionably edited.
SF was lazy crap.
And the less said about that last film, the better.
SP ends up in my upper mid-range. Because it was FUN. Not a soap opera.
We can leave your friends behind
'Cause your friends don't SP
And if they don't SP
Well, they're no friends of mine...
I feel the same way he does, but I think I put it even higher in my rankings; I could list out for you all the things I like about it, but I imagine you’d say “yes, those are things that are in the film”. It’s an emotional response, you’re drawn to it or you’re not.
For me I just look forward to everything that’s about to happen. The hotel room scene with Q in the alps is the only exception, and the films deep low point.
SP is this Century's GF.
That's clearly SF, and not because of the car; the shiny, glossy, "iconic" third film adored by the masses. ;)
But I know you don't like my GF comparisons, so if you need me to redact this, I will!
+1, it definitely is. It's the best stanadalone crowdpleaser film he did. CR is like his FRWL, being the more serious and grounded one. As long as we're going on with comparisons, to me SP is Craig's DAF: poorly used Blofeld / SPECTRE and tonally jarring from each actor's other movies. NTTD I would liken most to TSLWM or YOLT in epic and fantasy type feel. QOS... too unique to correlate.
Neither do I. The film overall was unforgivably boring, half baked and uninspired. The only good things I could find about it were:
Bond/Lucia villa scene
Rome Spectre meeting
Bond meets Mr White
Everything else about the movie is just dead.
QoS is the nasty little brother of LTK.
Perfect description. The first 45 minutes of SP are actually quite enjoyable, even though the car chase in Rome is boring. But especially after the fight between Bond and Hinx on the train the film is just getting more and more ludicrous: Bond is told to be Blofeld's step brother, is tortured, developes to a kind of terminator who without any support destroys the wohle crater lair with one or two shots,.... But the worst scenes are at the very end when Blofeld is arrested. Finish it, finish it!! That were exactly my thoughts on the film in that moment in the cinema when I first watched it.
SP isn't a powerhouse in terms of action, but I do like that everything is Bondian. Rather like some of the more classic entries, the action isn't always all that hard-hitting, but it is uniquely James Bond.
CR has some impressive action sequences I suppose, but you could seemless drop absolutely any of them, score and all, into any other action movie, and nobody would even consider Bond is being referenced or ripped off.
I tend to agree but I really like the car flip in CR. One of the bests car stunts in the franchise. The parkour chase is well staged but I had wished that Mollaka escapes and returns in the Miami airport scene. One minor issue I have with CR is that it simply has too many minor henchmen who only exist for one scene and get killed by Bond. It would have been more impactfull if certain characters got more screentime and Bond was not successfull in all of his chase or fight sequences.
And some of us find that's a description of SF...dreary, dull, plodding and lifeless! Great how we all see things differently!!
Many don t think so. That is great as well, isn t it?
I'm reading this quite belatedly, but your list is another one at least very close to my own ranking. The difference in quality between CR and SF is negligible to me, they have both been in my top four (rated 9/10) all along (the other two are FRWL and GF). And now they have been joined by NTTD. SP is definitely inferior because of those stupid script ideas (although unfortunately NTTD was forced to build on those), while QOS has that erratic editing that even after 14 years never failed to put me off liking the movie. Shame.
EDIT: Oops, sorry...just read again that there should be "no discussion..."