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If you could lose a few movies in the franchise, which films would you leave out?

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  • KennonKennon
    Posts: 297
    If I had to choose GF, YOLT and DN from Connery's, TSWLM and AVTAK from Moore's and GE through DAD could go for me. Not just because I don't like these; some of them I've seen so often I don't have to see them again.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
    edited April 2012 Posts: 1,082
    Really none, but if I had to choose I would pick CR and QOS, those could be replaced with non-rebooted Craig movies, or Brosnan movies.
  • darren_blacksmithdarren_blacksmith
    edited April 2012 Posts: 678
    I'm surprised that some would drop TSWLM. Also intrigued why those would who would drop TSWLM would keep MR? I would have thought the potential 'issues' that people could have with TSWLM are even more in evidence in MR?

    (edit: Kennon I just re-read your last sentence, so maybe my point doesn't apply to what you posted)
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
    Posts: 1,082
    darren_blacksmith wrote:
    I'm surprised that some would drop TSWLM. Also intrigued why those would who would drop TSWLM would keep MR? I would have thought the potential 'issues' that people could have with TSWLM are even more in evidence in MR?

    (edit: Kennon I just re-read your last sentence, so maybe my point doesn't apply to what you posted)

    It would be a crime to drop any of those masterpieces!
  • BAIN123BAIN123
    Posts: 11,189
    I know MR has its merits including a fantastic score by JB but nonetheless it's a film I could without and just listen to the score on Youtube.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
    Posts: 1,082
    BAIN123 wrote:
    I know MR has its merits including a fantastic score by JB but nonetheless it's a film I could without and just listen to the score on Youtube.

    Flight Into Space is the best piece of movie music I have ever heard.
  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    None whatsoever, even the ones I dislike have their purpose (perfection is boring).

    The folks who think that omitting even one movie from the franchise is good are NO FANS at all imho. Anybody in favor of censorship is a grade A moron.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
    Posts: 1,082
    SaintMark wrote:
    None whatsoever, even the ones I dislike have their purpose (perfection is boring).

    The folks who think that omitting even one movie from the franchise is good are NO FANS at all imho. Anybody in favor of censorship is a grade A moron.

    I think you are gonna suffer for that.

  • SaintMarkSaintMark
    Posts: 7,653
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    SaintMark wrote:
    None whatsoever, even the ones I dislike have their purpose (perfection is boring).

    The folks who think that omitting even one movie from the franchise is good are NO FANS at all imho. Anybody in favor of censorship is a grade A moron.

    I think you are gonna suffer for that.

    Who cares what they think if they want to lose a 007 movie from the franchise. I do not like Dalton and QoS but they have their place and use in the franchise.

  • W_PPKW_PPK
    Posts: 172
    GF
    OHMSS
    DAF
    TMWTGG
    AVTAK
  • LupusLupus
    Posts: 17
    I would drop:

    GE, TND, TWINE, DAD cause imo the actor as much as i loved him before he becomes Bond dont fit in the role.

    I like OHMSS but it should have been with Connery.

    Cant understand why sb wants to drop GF?

    Further i would drop QOS and make CR less violent, Bons's a smart Killer if he has to.

    I cant really get close to OP (to much silly jokes), DAF, TLD.

    Thats mo
  • OHMSS69OHMSS69
    Posts: 2,341
    DAF,
    MR
    DAD
  • RogueAgentRogueAgent
    Posts: 12,506
    None of them! They are a series and all contribute something.
  • 00Beast00Beast
    Posts: 4,762
    I'm surprised that so many people would want to drop Diamonds Are Forever, it's one of my favorites, and for good reason!
  • X3MSonicXX3MSonicX https://www.behance.net/gallery/86760163/Fa-Posteres-de-007-No-Time-To-Die
    Posts: 2,635
    although i started to hate DAD a bit since a while, i think i'd let it in my list. I'd take all the others, mainly GE, no missing. gusta.png
  • SJK91SJK91
    Posts: 1,310
    Good lord, the amount of slack Goldfinger is getting is astonishing to me. GF is seriously one of my all time favorite films. Guess I should post that on the 'Controversial Bond Opinion' thread. ;)
  • DRESSED_TO_KILLDRESSED_TO_KILL Suspended
    Posts: 260
    All of Roger Moore's outings, die another day, tommorow never dies, never say never again, diamonds are forever just to name a few...

    ones I wouldn't dare to remove though include -Casino Royale (2006) FRWL, DR.NO
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    Lupus wrote:
    I would drop:

    GE, TND, TWINE, DAD cause imo the actor as much as i loved him before he becomes Bond dont fit in the role.

    I like OHMSS but it should have been with Connery.

    Cant understand why sb wants to drop GF?

    Further i would drop QOS and make CR less violent, Bons's a smart Killer if he has to.

    I cant really get close to OP (to much silly jokes), DAF, TLD.

    Thats mo


    Now there's an idea -

    I myself would drop, and going from decades onwards-


    Drop Goldfinger from a standing position

    Drop Diamonds are Forever from the window of a monster pick up

    Drop a View to a Kill from the roof of the Legg Mason building

    Drop Tomorrow Never Dies from the roof of the Empire State Building

    Drop Die Another Day from the top of Mount Everest (on a very cold day)


    Yes, I'd be content enough with that

  • DRESSED_TO_KILLDRESSED_TO_KILL Suspended
    Posts: 260
    im really surprised gldfinger is getting all this hate, its the first bond film that introduced many cinematic tones for the bond franchise, such as more gadgets, more humour and more outrageous stunts. Its biggest flaw for me was goldfingers death, him flying out that airplane window was terrible writing in my opinion , couldn't they just've had bond shoot his fat ass for a more serious tone. but goldfinger sure beats the living daylights out of any moore outing.
  • Baltimore_007Baltimore_007
    Posts: 5,634
    In the novel Bond kills Goldfinger by strangulation and Oddjob himself is sucked out the airplane apparently, but whichever way you look at it, I think James Bond shooting Mr 'fat ass' Goldfinger in cold blood on the jet just seems inappropriate if that is the word. I think at the end of the day the book and the film did things the right way.

    Maybe it's late and I'm tired but that's how I feel about it right now
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    Posts: 28,694
    007RogerMoore wrote:
    Really none, but if I had to choose I would pick CR and QOS, those could be replaced with non-rebooted Craig movies, or Brosnan movies.

    Ohhh...you've done it now...
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    The ropes are tied perfectly, and ready for execution.

    Remember what happened to the last CR haters?
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    They wiggled for a looooong time. >:)
  • DRESSED_TO_KILLDRESSED_TO_KILL Suspended
    Posts: 260
    I see your side of why it may seem inappropriate to some, but with today's standards if a scene like that were filmed. people, especially kids would laugh, because my friends and I sure did.

    But lets face it, bond in most simplistic terms as M mentioned is a "blunt instrument". A legal hitman hired by the British government under MI6 With a license to kill. I really get bedazzled ans quite angry when I here a scene where bond shoots a enemy in cold blood would be inappropriate. Don't get me wrong now, bond just cant shoot anybody, but if tge circumstances are rught and The enemy as un this case happens to be goldfinger, I see nothing wrong with it because goldfinger was a BAD BAD BAD VERY BAD BAD MAN.
  • 007RogerMoore007RogerMoore
    edited April 2012 Posts: 1,082
    DRESSED_TO_KILL wrote:
    All of Roger Moore's outings, die another day, tommorow never dies, never say never again, diamonds are forever just to name a few...

    ones I wouldn't dare to remove though include -Casino Royale (2006) FRWL, DR.NO

    Why would anyone leave out the best parts? CR or FRWL I could do without though.
  • BounineBounine
    edited April 2012 Posts: 2,598
    "Why drop all the Brosnan films??? He was a good bond imo"


    I think Brosnan is the worse Bond (for a number of reasons) possibly excluding Lazenby. Then there's the horrible dialogue in these films and too much action. With the exception of maybe GE, the Brosnan films just seem so generic to me. There too formulaic with no real substance.
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
    Posts: 7,570
    This thread is living, breathing proof of why Bond has lasted this long.

    Simply because the franchise is a varied and ever changing animal offering laughs and tears, breath-taking action and moments of reflection, hard boiled violence and double taking pigeons.

    How can we possibly want a single minute removed, because it would upset the balance of a diverse collection of films that make up a quite remarkable cannon?

    Eon have acknowledged mistakes and learned by them. They have moved on, changed the shape of the next film and taken Bond in a different direction. We can see it all unravel in front of us, and we can understand and appreciate why they do what they do.

    The secret to Eon's success? Not to take a blind bit of notice of the Bond fanatics - us. Because if they listened to us the series would be dead in the water within a few years, as we demand period peice Bond dramas or the return of a 60 something Timothy Dalton, or a Bond film akin to a John Le Carre novel.

    Eon aim for the mass market, make the films for the cinema-going audience. And guess what? We still remain fans, chuntering and complaining but still buying the tickets (more than once of course). They know that. Bond will survive because we the true fans can never agree about what we want so Eon do the right thing - ignore us.
  • BounineBounine
    edited April 2012 Posts: 2,598
    The thing with the Brosnan films is that there too multifaceted. The series as a whole is multifaceted but the individual eras of each actor largely stick to one particular style. This works. They could have gone a different route for Brosnan's films and done just as well if not better. I don't think the Brosnan films added anything new to the series except better special effects. This is why they are the only films I would get rid of plus QOS which contributed very little too.
  • identigraphidentigraph
    Posts: 1,052
    They can all stay, even the worst films have some good bits, and every percieved low creates a high, the fans who hated DAD got up CR to make up for it and of course the same could be said with MR and FYEO, and for those who thought AVTAK was poo then surely they enjoyed TLD.
  • BounineBounine
    edited April 2012 Posts: 2,598
    Yes, even the Brosnan travesties have the odd good moment but I still wouldn't miss them at all if they were to suddenly disappear in a magical world. For me, they added practically nothing to the franchise. Every film before GE plus CR, I enjoy for different reasons and would hate to see them dropped.
  • CraterGunsCraterGuns
    Posts: 615
    Moonraker
    A View to a Kill
    The World is Not Enough
    Die Another Day
  • slyfoxslyfox
    edited April 2012 Posts: 940
    I still watch my least favourite ones every now and then, so wouldn't want any of 'em removed! There's good, bad and ugly throughout the series but somehow it all adds to the fun, controversy and debate opportunity on places like this.

    Ones I would fight tooth and nail to not be removed would be:

    DN
    FRWL
    TB
    OHMSS
    OP
    TLD
    LTK
    and possibly CR
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