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Yep, agreed. A few hints which were nice, but not always that Bond-y.
I also think that although Eilish's theme song seems quite present in the album version, in the film I only really noticed it making fairly short appearances about twice- it's not really woven through.
I'm not a massive fan of the re-use of music (imagine if Newman had done it! The stick he would get!) but I thought that song did work brilliantly at the end and nearly made me tear up.
Yep, agreed with all of that. I'm not in love with the score, but I'd be happy to have him back because he's Zimmer, and it's not without reason that he's one of the most celebrated composers around; and I think there's not a moment where the score doesn't do exactly what it's supposed to do and evoke the reactions from the audience that it's supposed to in the finished film.
Well he did nick a couple of bits from FRWL and OHMSS in the very first track we heard from him(!), but I know what you mean :)
Most (nearly all) Bond theme songs are songs for the film, so can be used in a variety of different applications in their soundtracks,
The Eilish theme is so laser focused on the Bond and Madeleine relationship (it lyrics almost exclusively refer to it) that to use it outside of that would be weird.
But then they spend a lot of time together, or thinking or making reference to their relationship -which is the most important story aspect in the movie- , and even then it's barely there.
But let's not forget that the objection was always 'the song should be woven throughout the score'- for LTK, GE, SF, QoS, Sp etc. and it's not really woven throughout this one either. Marginally moreso than those, but it only appears two or three times in a noticeable way. FYEO feels like the song is properly woven throughout, but according to David Arnold on his show it only makes four appearances (not sure if that's true or not, and I don't know if it includes the two-note opening motif), but NTTD feels a lot more absent from this score than that song to me.
Don't get me wrong: I don't actually mind. But it seems odd to me that to those who this was very important to, and who were very angry at Newman for not doing, it's suddenly okay.
1. Dans la ville endormie
3. No Time To Die
4. Rastafari Way
5. Boom Shot Dis (not in the film, but I still like it)
6. Cumbua De Buanaventura
7. Cuba Chase
9. Final Ascent
10. We Have All the Time in the World
11. No Time To Die (orchestral arrangement)
12. James Bond by Iggy Pop
I actually thought that was Madeleine's theme, lol
The two of them are merged beautifully during the End Titles cue.
I am undecided about Zimmer's score in general. It didn't leave an impression on me beyond a feeling that my general thoughts about Zimmer scores (generic, industrial, computer-generated) were vindicated close to the end. Forgettable as all the other Zimmer scores. And congratulations to him for making a shitload of money by knowing how to program a computer (and I mean it, no hard feelings, no envy, but no adminration beyond that, either).
Reusing WHATTITW was justified nevertheless. I think I wrote this before, but the first time around, with them both travelling in the Aston V8 I thought that this was the harbinger of death (no, I didn't know they would kill off Bond in the end by then). If they used the song from OHMSS no fan could expect this to end well. If this was the purpose, they succeeded with me It's not laziness (especally not on Zimmer's side, since I'm sure the producers had a word in this, and as I said above, I'm not a Zimmer fan) but it was on purpose. They wanted at least those long-time Bond fans to be aware of what would happen, and it was pretty clear it was not yet another killing-off of a Bond female partner.
I think @antovolk posted a link to it on the previous page. It's not on the album but it is on Mazzaro's website.
My ranking is probably the same, although worth noting QOS/NTTD are more of a 2A/2B, and there's a big jump between 4 and 5.
3. NO TIME TO DIE
4. QUANTUM OF SOLACE
5. CASINO ROYALE
What version of Cumbua De Buanaventura is in the movie?
QUANTUM OF SOLACE
....and I put the other three on a very equally footing below those two, which is to say they're good but have some obvious flaws. Zimmer and Newman have very similar approaches to scoring an action picture, but the strengths of their respective Bond scores are opposite to each other. Newman's action scoring flatlined for me, but he excelled at the quieter moments. Zimmer's action scoring, as expected, is vibrant and exciting and full of cool whereas his lower-key cues pale in comparison with Newman's for me.
Which is not to say I consider NTTD or any of the others to be bad, I just prefer how the top ones feel. I would possibly put NTTD higher, but I do like some of the tunes in the Arnolds.
Cheers and thanks, mate!
On my third viewing I really noticed this, yes. By far and away the best cue that's missing from the official soundtrack and the one I want most.
Although I'm glad we got Sain's opening attack. It's a close second for its atmospheric brilliance alone.
I also love that little cue at night in the Matera hotel room that transitions to the acropolis the next morning, and the background music of the fight on the boat. If we had those four, I'd be missing nothing.
Cumbia de Buenaventura
Written by Emilio Jury Moya
Performed by La Sonora Matancera
This is per IMDb, which I assume lists these details from the film's end titles.
No, it's from the Cuba scenes.