No Time to Die production thread

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  • I have yet to go back to the theaters despite being vaccinated, but even I am ready for this to come out and am absolutely going to see it on the big screen (albeit perhaps a Sunday matinee!).
  • TheNumberOrTheCipherTheNumberOrTheCipher Raoul Silva did a little trolling
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    I don't really remember the past marketing blitzes for NTTD, but the one during September was nowhere near as big as what's going on now. All I remember really is the second trailer, a Safin character profile, and the Fallon appearance. Here now we have two new trailers with new footage, a bunch of promos for Land Rover and Aston Martin, the Cinema Con event, posters popping up everywhere. I really can't see them getting away with another delay (in the hopefully unlikely event that another delay happens)
  • TripAcesTripAces Universal Exports
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    I have yet to go back to the theaters despite being vaccinated, but even I am ready for this to come out and am absolutely going to see it on the big screen (albeit perhaps a Sunday matinee!).

    I went to Tenet, last year.

    So far this year: Wrath of Man, Cruella, and Free Guy.
  • I saw multiple films old and new at the cinema last year no issue. Right but to the Christmas lock down.

    I have seen many this year. If anything I’ve made a conscious effort to go to the cinema more often. I plan to see NTTD at least three times (something I never do).
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    My concern is that regardless of numbers and what not, is the film industry irreparably damaged in terms of footfall. What’s the average age of a bond audience? Probably skews a lot older than Fast and furious.

    Who knows. But if it had been planned to come out tonight say, I’d expect it to do bigger money than in 4 weeks time
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    In less than 3 weeks Free Guy, a new IP, with virtually no mkt, pushed back multiple times, with limited budget (like 125 M if I'm correct) has done 200 M.

    I think Bond will be just fine.
    Plus, at this time they can't push it anymore: trailer, mkt, announcements, partners initiatives (DHL, Smirnoff, etc).

    For God sake, the trailer literally says "The wait is over"
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    It won’t be delayed, unless theaters are gonna be shut down in UK and EU key markets but I don’t see that happening.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    It won’t be delayed, unless theaters are gonna be shut down in UK and EU key markets but I don’t see that happening.

    The CEO of Vue was interviewed by BBC and he stated UK audiences were increasing and ticket sales were about 80% pre-pandemic level in UK and that in Germany sales were now actually higher than pre-pandemic. He was optimistic and felt Bond would really draw more audiences back to the cinema in late Sept and into Oct etc.

  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    Also, summer is over, people is going to have to find something to do during the weekends, hot days in south europe are coming to an end...
    Time to go to the movie!

    (I've gone couple times since they've reopen in Italy, once there were a lot of people, but it was a preview for F9, the other time me and my GF were the only two in the room).

    The big IF in the NTTD box office will be China though. If they succeed in landing a spot there, it will be just fine.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    It won’t be delayed, unless theaters are gonna be shut down in UK and EU key markets but I don’t see that happening.

    The CEO of Vue was interviewed by BBC and he stated UK audiences were increasing and ticket sales were about 80% pre-pandemic level in UK and that in Germany sales were now actually higher than pre-pandemic. He was optimistic and felt Bond would really draw more audiences back to the cinema in late Sept and into Oct etc.

    That’s good. I really don’t see the point of delaying it again. This film is gonna lose money anyway and that’s it.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Rotors running re-loads in under three minutes! Shooting IMAX 1000’ magazines in our BIG MF Eclipse XL on 007

    Looking forward to seeing our aerials in the next Bond film “No Time To Die” Release date 30th of September! This will be our Aerial DOP & Marzano Films Ltd CEO @john.r.marzano 8th Bond film. It was a pleasure working with director @cary_fukunaga, @linussandgren_dp and Alex Witt on Second unit!

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  • MalloryMallory Do mosquitoes have friends?
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    I am pretty annoyed it looks like there isnt going to be a 15/70mm release of NTTD. Why bother shooting it in that format if no one can see it?
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
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    I can't see them delaying this film again. Because if they do, they'll have to do another trailer with the usual shots we've seen and people might think those shots are the only unique thing in its mammoth 163mins runtime and that might disinterest casual Bond fans. I have also seen those shots too often, but being a James Bond aficionado like everyone else here, I know NTTD has more to offer, including things like the Gunbarrel sequence, Zimmer's score, Kleinman's visuals and how it works with Eilish's song....which I have purposely not heard, because I'm still saving it for the film.
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    Mallory wrote: »
    I am pretty annoyed it looks like there isnt going to be a 15/70mm release of NTTD. Why bother shooting it in that format if no one can see it?

    People will still get to see it! There are other benefits to shooting film even if the final format isn't a film print. But yeah as for the full/intended 1.43 experience it will be hard to come by, though there are so few capable theaters left in the first place...Tenet had something like 10 prints, a far cry from 30-40 for Dunkirk and the over 100 for TDKR. Ultimately the real issue at this point is the BFI IMAX being the only flagship IMAX that hadn't upgraded their digital system to laser.
  • 00Heaven00Heaven Home
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    There's also the fact that the virus has pretty much gone from "pandemic" to "endemic" now. It'll probably be in circulation for our lifetime's. The important thing is how we deal with it going forward on the emergence of any new strains, etc.

    I think there's an awful lot of people very fatigued with constant lock downs and just want to get on with it now. Personally, I'm starting to fall into that group after being virtually a shut in for almost two years. I've sacrificed enough of my life and life is short enough as it is. My personal choice, of course, but I'm done with it now. I've got to think of myself at some point so that's what I'm going to do. I think others are coming around to thinking the same.

    NTTD will be just fine. It may not make what it would have done pre-pandemic but it's not going to do badly by any stretch.
  • phantomvicesphantomvices Mother Base
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    00Heaven wrote: »
    There's also the fact that the virus has pretty much gone from "pandemic" to "endemic" now. It'll probably be in circulation for our lifetime's. The important thing is how we deal with it going forward on the emergence of any new strains, etc.

    I think there's an awful lot of people very fatigued with constant lock downs and just want to get on with it now. Personally, I'm starting to fall into that group after being virtually a shut in for almost two years. I've sacrificed enough of my life and life is short enough as it is. My personal choice, of course, but I'm done with it now. I've got to think of myself at some point so that's what I'm going to do. I think others are coming around to thinking the same.

    NTTD will be just fine. It may not make what it would have done pre-pandemic but it's not going to do badly by any stretch.

    Agreed. In Australia we've been doing some pretty brutal lockdowns, and while they have been working very very well, it is very mentally taxing, especially two years in a row during the best years of my life. Not to mention because of this I'm watching NTTD 1.5 months after everyone.

    However, I do still believe we have a patriotic duty to our country and sometimes it does mean sacrificing what our heart wants at the moment to ensure that the people who need the most help and support can survive this pandemic. I'm all for opening up ASAP, but I do wish to wait until people are vaccinated and COVID isn't going nuts as it is in NSW before we open the floodgates and resume COVID normal life.

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.
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    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    As I was saying, it all depends from China.
    If they can get a slot, they will do 80/90% of the pre-pandemic.
    If not, your prevision could be right, maybe a little bit more, like 60.

    I'd say it will do 600/700 without China, 800/900 with it
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    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    Yes, I know you were. But still have some optimism - people are desperate for a big film to get them out of their homes, which have been like prisons for many people. Bond is a major draw in the UK and internationally, and can also do well in the US, but I suspect Eon/MGM don't expect too much from the States (which is still really struggling with the pandemic) during this time.

  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    Yes, I know you were. But still have some optimism - people are desperate for a big film to get them out of their homes, which have been like prisons for many people. Bond is a major draw in the UK and internationally, and can also do well in the US, but I suspect Eon/MGM don't expect too much from the States (which is still really struggling with the pandemic) during this time.

    Hard to be optimistic nowadays, speaking about boxoffice, especially with new cases rising almost everywhere spreading fear. My prediction is that NTTD will end up hitting the $500 million mark but the overall gross will be lower than QoS. There’s a reason why Paramount moved everything. In the US the audience confidence is under 70%.
    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    As I was saying, it all depends from China.
    If they can get a slot, they will do 80/90% of the pre-pandemic.
    If not, your prevision could be right, maybe a little bit more, like 60.

    I'd say it will do 600/700 without China, 800/900 with it

    No. Bond has never been a hit such F&F in China and studios end up earning only 25% of the overall Chinese gross. China will help but won’t make a big difference.
  • DonnyDB5 wrote: »
    I’d like to believe he possibly acquired it in the 5 years set after the events that go down in Matera.

    Perhaps a midlife crisis car after believing Madeline betrayed him.

    He got it from Q in 1987!
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    Yes, I know you were. But still have some optimism - people are desperate for a big film to get them out of their homes, which have been like prisons for many people. Bond is a major draw in the UK and internationally, and can also do well in the US, but I suspect Eon/MGM don't expect too much from the States (which is still really struggling with the pandemic) during this time.

    Hard to be optimistic nowadays, speaking about boxoffice, especially with new cases rising almost everywhere spreading fear. My prediction is that NTTD will end up hitting the $500 million mark but the overall gross will be lower than QoS. There’s a reason why Paramount moved everything. In the US the audience confidence is under 70%.
    matt_u wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    NTTD will likely end up losing a 40/50% of what it would’ve done pre pandemic. Without mentioning all the cash they burned because of wasted marketing and delays.

    I wouldn't be so pessimistic. Even if the BO is down due to the pandemic, Bond films have very long shelf lives and many future outlets for making money.

    Like all the other Bond films had as well…

    I was speaking about the theatrical worldwide gross tho.

    As I was saying, it all depends from China.
    If they can get a slot, they will do 80/90% of the pre-pandemic.
    If not, your prevision could be right, maybe a little bit more, like 60.

    I'd say it will do 600/700 without China, 800/900 with it

    No. Bond has never been a hit such F&F in China and studios end up earning only 25% of the overall Chinese gross. China will help but won’t make a big difference.

    It has gone growing during time, i can see it doing 150M in China, if correctly marketed as it was going to before pandemic (tour, etc).
    Plus, they haven't western blockbusters at the moment, so maybe NTTD could fill the space left there.
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
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    For Bond it would be out of this world to even hit the $100 million mark. SP did $83.5.
  • ContrabandContraband Sweden
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    Wrong thread guys!!

  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    Obviously the exact time periods can’t be now known, but no doubt future Boxoffice records will have an asterisk because of the effects of the virus.
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
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    matt_u wrote: »
    For Bond it would be out of this world to even hit the $100 million mark. SP did $83.5.

    Yes, Casino Royale did 11.
    What's the point in comparing them?
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited September 2021 Posts: 4,343
    matt_u wrote: »
    For Bond it would be out of this world to even hit the $100 million mark. SP did $83.5.

    Yes, Casino Royale did 11.
    What's the point in comparing them?

    Point is that NTTD doubling SP gross in China during a pandemic, like you suggest, won’t ever happen.
  • SkyfallCraigSkyfallCraig Rome, Italy
    edited September 2021 Posts: 630
    matt_u wrote: »
    matt_u wrote: »
    For Bond it would be out of this world to even hit the $100 million mark. SP did $83.5.

    Yes, Casino Royale did 11.
    What's the point in comparing them?

    Point is that NTTD doubling SP gross in China during a pandemic, like you suggest, won’t ever happen.

    F&F went from 66 of F6 to 300+ of F7, so your certainty about it is misplaced.
    it all depends from marketing, spot, competition
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