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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

    Agreed. It's a bad remake of the mediocre film that is Titanic.
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    jobo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

    Agreed. It's a bad remake of the mediocre film that is Titanic.

    Its been said its a remake of 'Dances With Wolves',
    Hence some wag calling it 'Dances With Smurfs'
  • j_w_pepperj_w_pepper Born on the bayou. I can still hear my old hound dog barkin'.
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Totally agree re 'AVATAR'. Awful film. In fact I think James Cameron is wildly overrated and i think he hasnt done anything watchable since Terminator 2: Judgement Day!
    YES to every word of this. AVATAR is a lousy piece of profit-oriented filmmaking. A would-be copy of DANCES WITH WOLVES, only starring smurfs instead of native Americans. Except for Terminator 2 and Aliens, there isn't a single Cameron movie I really liked.

    Now wait until I get started on Christopher Nolan...it won't be much more friendly than my take on Cameron.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

    Agreed. It's a bad remake of the mediocre film that is Titanic.

    Its been said its a remake of 'Dances With Wolves',
    Hence some wag calling it 'Dances With Smurfs'

    Like I said before: had either of those two bombed, James Cameron would be the modern day Michael Cimino. Mean people who want everything their own way, no one would want to put up with their egos, because life’s too short. Here’s a controversial opinion: Michael Cimino deserved another chance at directing his own style (with major supervision from others of course).
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Just as a reaction to all the unjustified hate for James Cameron on here, IMO he is the greatest action director in movie history...😁
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    Just as a reaction to all the unjustified hate for James Cameron on here, IMO he is the greatest action director in movie history...😁

    Ah mate!!!
    I think he did great work on the 2 Terminator movies, and Aliens. But the action in True Lies, The Abyss, and Avatar is distinctly lacking in thrills!
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Mathis1 wrote: »
    Just as a reaction to all the unjustified hate for James Cameron on here, IMO he is the greatest action director in movie history...😁

    Ah mate!!!
    I think he did great work on the 2 Terminator movies, and Aliens. But the action in True Lies, The Abyss, and Avatar is distinctly lacking in thrills!

    Sorry mate but the action in True Lies is fantastic! The stunt on the destroyed bridge and the Harrier Jump jet climax are action cinema at it's finest!

    I also love The Abyss. Sentimental in parts but an incredibly ambitious and spectacular project.

    I also think Avatar is amazing... 😁
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 17,241
    jobo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

    Agreed. It's a bad remake of the mediocre film that is Titanic.

    Never seen Titanic so I can't say anything about that film, but I never understood the praise Avatar got. It truly baffled me.
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    jobo wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.

    I'll take it a step further: Avatar is one of the worst films I've ever seen.

    Agreed. It's a bad remake of the mediocre film that is Titanic.

    Its been said its a remake of 'Dances With Wolves',
    Hence some wag calling it 'Dances With Smurfs'

    A mate of mine compared Avatar to Pocahontas – in space.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 8,009
    How anyone could think the action in True Lies isn't top class is beyond me! Come on. The final third is packed with great stunt work and a top notch mix of practical and visual effects. The film's script is very hokey in places, but a weak action film it certainly isn't. It was the most expensive film ever made at the time and every dime is up on the screen.

    The Abyss isn't an action film, anyway. But the sequences of action that it does have are wonderfully creative and tense.

    Avatar? Yeah, not great. I remember being wowed by the 3D in the theatres but utterly bored by it when I watched it at home. Doesn't really have the same effect without the immersion.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    James Cameron’s only good movies are the ones he directs. He’s a terrible screenplay writer for others, nothing is original in his writing work.
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    How anyone could think the action in True Lies isn't top class is beyond me! Come on. The final third is packed with great stunt work and a top notch mix of practical and visual effects. The film's script is very hokey in places, but a weak action film it certainly isn't. It was the most expensive film ever made at the time and every dime is up on the screen.

    The Abyss isn't an action film, anyway. But the sequences of action that it does have are wonderfully creative and tense.

    Avatar? Yeah, not great. I remember being wowed by the 3D in the theatres but utterly bored by it when I watched it at home. Doesn't really have the same effect without the immersion.

    Always thought the action looked cheap in True Lies.
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    James Cameron’s only good movies are the ones he directs. He’s a terrible screenplay writer for others, nothing is original in his writing work.

    Strange Days a terrible screenplay..?
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    I actually appreciate TITANIC more now than I did in '97.
    The CGI effects don't remotely hold up, IMO, though Still, if it happens to be on the tube I'll watch a few minutes. Reminds me of my youth for some reason.
    Sometime I should revisit the Terminator movies. I haven't seen T2 since it was released.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    James Cameron’s only good movies are the ones he directs. He’s a terrible screenplay writer for others, nothing is original in his writing work.

    Strange Days a terrible screenplay..?

    Oh yeah, a very disappointing film. I was in a cinema when that teaser trailer with Ralph Fiennes' character played and it had me intrigued and stoked at the possibilities. Great cast and behind the camera talent. It had so much promise of a techno thriller that really fit the times, leading to the turn of the century we were anticipating. It only played in my town for a week so I didn't see it until it came to video or cable, but what a let down it was after all the anticipation.

    Fiennes' Lenny Nero seemed like such a cool character and he turns out a sleazy, cowardly sort. Tom Sizemore and Juliette Lewis played their usual types and it tried to capture what was then making headlines with a dissatisfying ending. I've heard it has become something of a cult film and would actually watch it again just to see if I felt any differently, but that first viewing really makes me hesitant.
  • goldenswissroyalegoldenswissroyale Switzerland
    edited November 2020 Posts: 4,378
    I was blown away by Avatar. It was one of my best (or even the best) cinematic experiences of my life. The 3D was fantastic and it felt like I was part of the movie. It was also the last time that I was sitting in a sold out screening, which made it special anyway.
    I watched it at least three times in the cinema and loved it every time.
    However, I would never watch it at home because I'm sure it would suddenly look like a computer game on my much smaller screen and without 3D.
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    Not sure if it's controversial, but there are many "big" movies which I enjoy a lot in cinema, then never care to watch ever again. Av
    Mathis1 wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    I never cared for AVATAR. Pretentious and overrated for my tastes. The actors looked like they were trying to perform in front of a green screen and the imagery was later inserted digitally.
    Of course I could be biased. My girlfriend at the time thought AVATAR was the greatest movie ever made.
    She detested the Bond films and loathed Daniel Craig.

    Another controversial opinion:
    In terms of the DC comics franchise

    I enjoyed WONDER WOMAN far more than THE DARK KNIGHT.
    I loved the WW1 setting, Chris Pine's performance and especially Gal Gadot in the lead role.
    However, if I'm going to nitpick, the action sequences looked like they were shot in front of a green screen with the imagery and stunts inserted digitally.

    I could say that for several modern action films, though.

    Enough negativity...........time to spread the love-

    Controversial opinion:
    THE HORROR OF FRANKENSTEIN (1970)
    is a superb Hammer horror vehicle. Ralph Bates makes an excellent Baron Frankenstein and Veronica Carlson is astonishing as Elizabeth. Dave Prowse is a solid Monster and the direction by Jimmy Sangster is easily on par with some of the other Hammer directing legends.


    Totally agree re 'AVATAR'. Awful film. In fact I think James Cameron is wildly overrated and i think he hasnt done anything watchable since Terminator 2: Judgement Day!

    Avatar is overrated and so is Titanic. I did enjoy the former, at least technically, but it's Dance with Wolves in space (DWW is another overrated movie, come to think of it.) I'll give something to Cameron though : he knows exactly how to find his public. He might be even better than Spielberg in that regard.
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    While this is going to be unsurprising people who know me but here are my 10 views

    1. Jaws should of been a longer franchise similar to Friday the 13th Nightmare on elm street and Halloween and the fact that so many people accept those franchises and not this one annoys the hell out of me
    2. The A-team needed a sequel
    3. While I am enjoying the reboot of Macgyver on TV Mac should of made the jump to the big screen in the 90's
    4. Catwoman and Joker never should of existed as films
    5. Die hard films only work when the story is stolen from another source (1 was a novel sequel to the Detective, 2 was an unrelated novel, 3 was a Leathel weapon reject script, even 4 was something else originally) Die hard 5 was the only film that started as a die hard film and it SUCKS
    6. there should be more Batman films
    7. Captain America The Winter Solider was the best Marvel film period
    8. they should of continued on the curse of thorn plot in H20
    9. Beverly Hills Cop 4 should of happened
    10. of all the die hard ripoffs that deserve a franchise all its own Sudden Death is that die hard rip off
  • NickTwentyTwoNickTwentyTwo Vancouver, BC, Canada
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    Risico007 wrote: »
    While this is going to be unsurprising people who know me but here are my 10 views

    1. Jaws should of been a longer franchise similar to Friday the 13th Nightmare on elm street and Halloween and the fact that so many people accept those franchises and not this one annoys the hell out of me
    2. The A-team needed a sequel
    3. While I am enjoying the reboot of Macgyver on TV Mac should of made the jump to the big screen in the 90's
    4. Catwoman and Joker never should of existed as films
    5. Die hard films only work when the story is stolen from another source (1 was a novel sequel to the Detective, 2 was an unrelated novel, 3 was a Leathel weapon reject script, even 4 was something else originally) Die hard 5 was the only film that started as a die hard film and it SUCKS
    6. there should be more Batman films
    7. Captain America The Winter Solider was the best Marvel film period
    8. they should of continued on the curse of thorn plot in H20
    9. Beverly Hills Cop 4 should of happened
    10. of all the die hard ripoffs that deserve a franchise all its own Sudden Death is that die hard rip off

    Love this.
    1. Fair that it's annoying that the Friday the 13th and Halloween franchises are more accepted than a would-be Jaws franchise. If they successfully reignited the Halloween franchise in the last couple of years, it would be interesting to try and do it with Jaws too. Too many modern shark movies though, I suppose.
    4. I liked Joker, never saw Catwoman, so 50/50 for me.
    5. lol love this if true, Die Hard 5 did suck hard.
    6. lol why not
    7. I can't remember all 4,000 MCU films but I generally accept that the Captain America ones are the best ones, so I'll agree with you here.
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    Cutthroat Island is a better pirate film than any of the Pirates of the Carribbean films.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    cooperman2 wrote: »
    Cutthroat Island is a better pirate film than any of the Pirates of the Carribbean films.

    Yep, at least they tried, not overexposing someone and something pass their prime.
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    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
    Posts: 4,051
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"

    It was humorous, but it also showed that Richard Lester (or barely the Salkinds for that matter) didn't really know much about Superman.

    Here's a new one relating to Superman:

    Metallo should have been one of the main villains (along with Lex Luthor) in Superman Returns, he would have given us more action that SR was lacking.

    Brainiac should have been the main villain in Man of Steel. He could have still been played by Michael Shannon, but it make the movie feel more fresh, not just a rehash of Superman 1 & 2.
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    MaxCasino wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"

    It was humorous, but it also showed that Richard Lester (or barely the Salkinds for that matter) didn't really know much about Superman.

    Here's a new one relating to Superman:

    Metallo should have been one of the main villains (along with Lex Luthor) in Superman Returns, he would have given us more action that SR was lacking.

    Brainiac should have been the main villain in Man of Steel. He could have still been played by Michael Shannon, but it make the movie feel more fresh, not just a rehash of Superman 1 & 2.

    I quite agree!
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    Agree on what?
  • Posts: 15,785
    MaxCasino wrote: »
    Agree on what?

    Brainiac as the main villain in MAN OF STEEL would have worked well.
  • edited November 2020 Posts: 14,799
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"

    Yes, it always seemed to me that they were Kryptonian boobytraps, meant to defend the owner of the place against intruders.

    @MaxCasino Brainiac should have been the villain of Superman 3.
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"

    Yes, it always seemed to me that they were Kryptonian boobytraps, meant to defend the owner of the place against intruders.

    @MaxCasino Brainiac should have been the villain of Superman 3.

    I wonder how Brainiac would have looked in Superman III? Would they follow the Curt Swan imagery or give him a make over? Brando for instance didn't follow the Curt Swan image of Jor-El with that green costume topped by a sun logo on the chest.
    I'd say the same for Hackman's Lex Luther. I remember Luther wearing a purple/green costume in those comics.
  • Posts: 14,799
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Controversial opinion:

    SUPERMAN II (1981)

    I actually LOVE the cellophane \S/. I think it's bad-ass.

    splash_780-1241.jpg

    I always understood that the cellophane S was not an inherent power of Superman or his suit, but something triggered by and in the Forest of Solitude.

    Probably the same with some of those other powers he seems to only have in the Fortress of Solitude. That disappearing/re-appearing illusion gimmick he does: "Wrong again, Zod!!"

    Yes, it always seemed to me that they were Kryptonian boobytraps, meant to defend the owner of the place against intruders.

    @MaxCasino Brainiac should have been the villain of Superman 3.

    I wonder how Brainiac would have looked in Superman III? Would they follow the Curt Swan imagery or give him a make over? Brando for instance didn't follow the Curt Swan image of Jor-El with that green costume topped by a sun logo on the chest.
    I'd say the same for Hackman's Lex Luther. I remember Luther wearing a purple/green costume in those comics.

    I think they would have gone for a different aesthetic, akin to the one in first two movies. A Brainiac with crystals on his clothes/body? I wonder who would have played him.
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