Rate the Various Categories - The Villains - This Week, Woody Allen as Jimmy Bond

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  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belgium
    edited December 2017 Posts: 3,738
    Yaphet Kotto as Dr Kananga/Mr Big in Live and Let Die ...

    /10 - out of 10

    1. Actor – 8
    2. Sadism – 7
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 7
    5. Dialogue – 7

    Bonus Round!

    /5 - out of 5

    6. Henchperson – Tee Hee - 5

    41/55
    74.55%

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    1. Rosa Klebb - 87.27%
    2. Emilio Largo - 85.45%
    3. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 83.64%
    4. Auric Goldfinger - 81.81%
    5. Dr. No – 80%
    6. Dr Kananga/Mr Big - 74,55%
    6. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 72.73%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 65.45%
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    Yaphet Kotto as Dr Kananga/Mr Big in Live and Let Die ...

    /10 - out of 10

    1. Actor – 9 Very convincing
    2. Sadism – 8 the cutting off, well threatening of cutting it off of the finger, the blood for the sharks. Yes, sadistic enough.
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 8 original and threatening, allthough not that much for Britain.
    4. Physically Menacing – 7 I love the knife dance.
    5. Dialogue – 9 I love the way he switches between Mr. Big and Kananga, how he plays with Bond and Solitaire.

    Bonus Round!

    /5 - out of 5

    6. Henchperson – Tee Hee - 5 threatening, strong and even with humor!

    46/55
    83, 64%

    The Commander's Charts:



    1. Dr. No – 89,09%
    2. Auric Goldfinger 85,45%
    3. Rosa Klebb - 83,64%
    4. Yaphet Kotto - 83, 64%
    5. Emilio Largo - 81,81%
    6. Telly Savalas as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 78,18%
    7. Charles Gray as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 60%
    8. Donald Pleasance as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 54,54%

    wow, better score then anticipated. Tee Hee helps a lot obviously.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    Upon reflection, I went back and made TeeHee a five, and readjusted my percentages accordingly.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Yaphet Kotto as Dr. Kananga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 8
    2. Sadism – 9
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 2 Very weak, I'm sorry.
    4. Physically Menacing – 9
    5. Dialogue – 6 "Did you mess with that?!"

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Tee Hee - 4 Fun character!

    38/55 = 69.09%

    DD's Rank of evil awesomeness
    Rosa Klebb - 90.91%
    Dr. No – 85.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 74.55%
    Emilio Largo - 70.91%
    Kananga - 69.09%
    Goldfinger - 65.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 63.64%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 60,00%
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
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    @Darth with your low scoring, I'm just wondering if there's villains going to end up in the minus points... ;-)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Community Rankings -

    1. Auric Goldfinger – 82.82%
    2. Rosa Klebb – 82.25%
    3. Dr. No – 80.99%
    4. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Savalas)– 78.78%
    5. Dr. Kananga – 77.72
    6. Emilio Largo – 76.36%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Gray) – 69.54%
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Pleasence) – 60%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 10 (superb actor makes for a superb villain)
    2. Sadism –8 (see his pleasure in thrusting the Golden Gun against Andrea)
    3. Villain’s Scheme – 6 (better if it was just Bond vs Scaramanga)
    4. Physically Menacing – 7
    5. Dialogue – 10

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 4

    45/55 = 81.81%

    Royale’s Rank of Rascaitiy

    1. Auric Goldfinger – 90.90%
    2. Rosa Klebb – 83.63%
    3. Dr. No – 81.81%
    4. Francisco Scaramanga – 81.81%
    5. Dr. Kananga - 81.81%
    6. Emilio Largo – 76.36%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Savalas) – 74.54%
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Gray) – 67.27%
    9. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Pleasence) – 58.18

    What better way to start the New Year by having Scaramanga up first?
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 9
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 2 (Very poor.)
    4. Physically Menacing – 5
    5. Dialogue – 8

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 4

    36/55 = 65.45%

    DD's Rank of evil awesomeness
    Rosa Klebb - 90.91%
    Dr. No – 85.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 74.55%
    Emilio Largo - 70.91%
    Kananga - 69.09%
    Scaramanga - 65.45%
    Goldfinger - 65.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 63.64%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 60,00%
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    edited January 2018 Posts: 27,255
    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 10
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme – 6
    4. Physically Menacing – 9
    5. Dialogue – 10

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack – 5

    48/55 = 87.27%

    Birdleson's Rankings

    1. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 90.91%
    2. Rosa Klebb - 90.0%
    3. Auric Goldfinger - 89.09%
    4. Dr. No – 89.09%
    5. Francisco Scaramanga - 87.27%
    6. Emilio Largo - 87.27%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 81.82%
    8. Dr. Kananga - 78.18%
    9. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 74.55%


    That's about the right position (he actually should be ahead of Largo, but his overall scheme is weak).
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    @Birdleson
    That's the problem I had too. His scheme is overall disappointingly simple. Okay no, it's rubbish.
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    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 10
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 9
    5. Dialogue – 10

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 4

    48/55 = 87.28%

    Rankings %

    Francisco Scaramanga - 87.28
    Rosa Klebb - 80
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 80
    Dr No – 74.55
    Ernst Stavros Blofeld (OHMSS) - 74.55
    Kananga - 74.55
    Goldfinger - 72.72
    Emilio Largo - 70.9
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 50.91
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 27,255
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    @Birdleson
    That's the problem I had too. His scheme is overall disappointingly simple. Okay no, it's rubbish.

    I don't mind challenging Bondcto a duel, that's pretty cool. It's that Solex Agitator stuff that leaves me cold.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    It makes little to no sense. How could Scaramanga logistically put together that installation so quickly? Where does he get the staff and the know-how?
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 27,255
    DarthDimi wrote: »
    It makes little to no sense. How could Scaramanga logistically put together that installation so quickly? Where does he get the staff and the know-how?

    Well, that logistical stuff can drive me crazy in most classic Bond films if I let it, that I can leave alone. To me it just gets in the way of what should be a head to head battle between Bond and Scaramanga; no other stakes necessary.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 17,234
    Fair enough. It also to me makes no sense that the Chinese would assist Scaramanga rather than take the bloody thing themselves. One of the world's most populated countries could greatly benefit from that tech and nevermind what sort of arrangement they have with Scaramanga. To let this de facto capitalist get away with it and to supply him with the means to do it, is ridiculous.

    And don't get me started about the plausibility of one human body disturbing an ocean of super-cooled stuff to the point where the whole place explodes and takes forever to do it. It's headache inducing.

    But you're quite right; it shouldn't even be about that. The best part of the book is Bond vs Scaramanga. It should have been that and nothing but that. The film could have been brilliant in its simplicity. Moore and Lee could have given it their all. But someone decided the time was right for some fictitious tech as a MacGuffin and the silliest of Bond girls ever conceived.

    I don't know who was smoking what, but TMWTGG is one big pile of mistakes. Even Barry, just this once, lets me down. I love his overall score; I even think the Theme Song is underrated. But the whistle is inexcusable.
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
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    I still enjoy the film quite a bit, obviously more than you do, but I agree with most of what you wrote. The book filmed as is would have been a fricking treat, to say the least. And what a way to incorporate Hedison's Felix!
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    I'd always assumed Hai Fat built the solar power station. But it's best not to look to deeply into any Bond movie, especially the trio that start of the 70's...
  • CommanderRossCommanderRoss The bottom of a pitch lake in Eastern Trinidad, place called La Brea
    Posts: 5,612
    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 9 Christopher lee is just a fantastic actor.
    2. Sadism – 4 there isn't much sadism, is there?
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 3 The challenge is an interesting idea, but they should've kept to the book, which makes far more sense. And the Solar Irritator is just plain wrong.
    4. Physically Menacing – 9 Well he didn't become Dracula for nothing.
    5. Dialogue – 8 Moore and Lee do play off of eachother very well.

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 3 fun, but rather useless.

    36/55 = 65.45%

    The Commander's Charts:


    1. Dr. No – 89,09%
    2. Auric Goldfinger 85,45%
    3. Rosa Klebb - 83,64%
    4. Yaphet Kotto - 83, 64%
    5. Emilio Largo - 81,81%
    6. Telly Savalas as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 78,18%
    7. Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga - 65,45%
    7. Charles Gray as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 60%
    8. Donald Pleasance as Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 54,54%

    A fantastic actor let down by the script. They really should've taken more time for this one.
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belgium
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    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga in The Man with the Golden Gun

    /10 - out of 10

    1. Actor – 10
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 10
    5. Dialogue – 10

    Bonus Round!

    /5 - out of 5

    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 4

    49/55
    89.09%

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    1. Francisco Scaramanga - 89.09%
    2. Rosa Klebb - 87.27%
    3. Emilio Largo - 85.45%
    4. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 83.64%
    5. Auric Goldfinger - 81.81%
    6. Dr. No – 80%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 72.2%
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 65.45%
  • GBFGBF
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    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 10
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 6
    4. Physically Menacing – 10
    5. Dialogue – 10

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 4

    48/55 = 87.73%
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Christopher Lee as Francisco Scaramanga in The Man with the Golden Gun

    /10 - out of 10

    1. Actor – 10
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 8
    5. Dialogue – 9

    Bonus Round!

    /5 - out of 5

    6. Henchperson – Nick Nack - 5

    47/55
    85.45%



    Bazza's Rankings

    Francisco Scaramanga - 85.45%
    Emilio Largo - 83.63%
    Savalas Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 81.81%
    Rosa Klebb - 78.18%
    Dr. No – 76.36%
    Auric Goldfinger - 72.72%
    Pleasance Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 52.72%

    Looks like I have a new leader in the pack.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Community Rankings -

    1. Auric Goldfinger – 82.82%
    2. Rosa Klebb – 82.25%
    3. Francisco Scaramanga – 81.13%
    4. Dr. No – 80.99%
    5. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Savalas)– 78.78%
    6. Dr. Kananga – 77.72
    7. Emilio Largo – 76.36%
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Gray) – 69.54%
    9. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Pleasence) – 60%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 8
    2. Sadism –7 (merely pushing buttons, though his icy detachment is good, if not a little repetitive)
    3. Villain’s Scheme – 7 (epic but hardly believable)
    4. Physically Menacing – 5
    5. Dialogue – 8 (“Observe, Mr. Bond, the instruments of Armageddon”)

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Jaws - 4

    39/55 = 70.90%

    Royale’s Rank of Rascaitiy

    1. Auric Goldfinger – 90.90%
    2. Rosa Klebb – 83.63%
    3. Dr. No – 81.81%
    4. Francisco Scaramanga – 81.81%
    5. Dr. Kananga - 81.81%
    6. Emilio Largo – 76.36%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Savalas) – 74.54%
    8. Karl Stromberg – 70.90%
    9. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Gray) – 67.27%
    10. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Pleasence) – 58.18
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 9
    2. Sadism – 9 (The sharks and all...)
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 8 (Could work...)
    4. Physically Menacing – 3
    5. Dialogue – 6 (Not too big a conversationalist is he?)

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Jaws - 5 (He's pretty menacing here I must say. Well, except for the thing with the stone then.)

    40/55 = 72.73%

    DD's Rank of evil awesomeness
    Rosa Klebb - 90.91%
    Dr. No – 85.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 74.55%
    Carl Stromberg - 72.73%
    Emilio Largo - 70.91%
    Kananga - 69.09%
    Scaramanga - 65.45%
    Goldfinger - 65.45%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 63.64%
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 60,00%
  • BirdlesonBirdleson San Jose, CAModerator
    Posts: 27,255
    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 9
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme – 9
    4. Physically Menacing – 6
    5. Dialogue – 9

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Jaws – 5

    46/55 = 83.64%

    Birdleson's Rankings

    1. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 90.91%
    2. Rosa Klebb - 90.0%
    3. Auric Goldfinger - 89.09%
    4. Dr. No – 89.09%
    5. Francisco Scaramanga - 87.27%
    6. Emilio Largo - 87.27%
    7. Karl Stromberg - 83.64
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 81.82%
    9. Dr. Kananga - 78.18%
    10. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 74.55%
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
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    Thank you gents.
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 19,339
    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg...

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 8
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme – 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 4
    5. Dialogue – 8

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Jaws – 4

    39/55 = 70.90%

    Bazza's Rankings

    Francisco Scaramanga - 85.45%
    Emilio Largo - 83.63%
    Savalas Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 81.81%
    Rosa Klebb - 78.18%
    Dr. No – 76.36%
    Auric Goldfinger - 72.72%
    Karl Stromberg - 70.90%
    Pleasance Ernst Stavro Blofeld - 52.72%
  • GoldenGunGoldenGun Station B, Belgium
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    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg in The Spy Who Loved Me

    /10 - out of 10

    1. Actor – 7
    2. Sadism – 8
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 7
    4. Physically Menacing – 4
    5. Dialogue – 7

    Bonus Round!

    /5 - out of 5

    6. Henchperson – Jaws - 4

    37/55
    67.27%

    GoldenGun's Rankings

    1. Francisco Scaramanga - 89.09%
    2. Rosa Klebb - 87.27%
    3. Emilio Largo - 85.45%
    4. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (OHMSS) - 83.64%
    5. Auric Goldfinger - 81.81%
    6. Dr. No – 80%
    7. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 72.2%
    8. Karl Stromberg - 67.27%
    8. Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 65.45%
  • Posts: 3,676
    Curt Jürgens as Karl Stromberg in The Spy Who Loved Me

    /10 - out of 10
    1. Actor – 6
    2. Sadism – 6
    3. Villain’s Scheme - 6
    4. Physically Menacing – 3
    5. Dialogue – 6

    Bonus Round!
    /5 - out of 5
    6. Henchperson – Jaws - 4

    31/55 = 56.36%

    Rankings %

    Francisco Scaramanga - 87.28
    Rosa Klebb - 80
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (DAF) - 80
    Dr No – 74.55
    Ernst Stavros Blofeld (OHMSS) - 74.55
    Kananga - 74.55
    Goldfinger - 72.72
    Emilio Largo - 70.9
    Stromberg - 56.36
    Ernst Stavro Blofeld (YOLT) - 50.91
  • edited January 2018 Posts: 128
    1. 10 Kurt is a classic villainous actor
    2. 7 He does his fair share, but not up to the intimate class of Goldfinger or LeChiffre
    3. 10 Reshaping the World in his own image, it doesn't get any bigger?
    4. 5 Needs his henchmen for that
    5. 7 Good enough, but I can't recall anything particularly outstanding
    6. 5 Jaws is iconic, plus he had one of those big bald wrestler types as well

    44/55 = 80%
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