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  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
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    One mans petrol head is another mans auto terrorist as they say.
  • ChriscoopChriscoop North Yorkshire
    Posts: 281
    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    Although now you've found us, we'll have to find somewhere else to meet ! :P :D
    A belated welcome.

    :)) that was going to be my opening post from qos, "I think you people should find somewhere else to meet"
  • ChriscoopChriscoop North Yorkshire
    Posts: 281
    stag wrote: »
    For those who don't already know I'd just like to point out Chriscoop is on a mission to destroy the worlds stock of Alpha Romeos! One down many more to go!

    ;)
    Oh you know how to hurt a man Stag, im still in mourning for that car, the Death of a mint condition gt at the hands of a halfwit ( not me the other driver) is a harrowing experience.

  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    Welcome to the forum, @Chriscoop, nice to see a fellow Yorkshireman on here!

    There's been a few new faces on here over the last few days most of whom seem to be, let's not beat around the bush here, tossers.

    But as a half Yorkshireman myself and with an endorsement from Draggers @Chriscoop already has an encouraging start.
  • Jones_The_BondJones_The_Bond
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    It's probably something of a honeymoon bounce in the polls but Theresa May's Conservatives have opened up a large lead. It's getting harder and harder to spot any chink of light at the end of this crumbling tunnel for Jeremy Corbyn.

    ICM:
    Con 43 Lab 27 UKIP 13 LD 8
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
    Posts: 13,384
    I think many people are simply relieved, that someone at last seems to be in
    Charge of the ship. We seemed to be without a Captain for quite a while.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Jones_The_Bond wrote: »
    It's probably something of a honeymoon bounce in the polls but Theresa May's Conservatives have opened up a large lead. It's getting harder and harder to spot any chink of light at the end of this crumbling tunnel for Jeremy Corbyn.

    ICM:
    Con 43 Lab 27 UKIP 13 LD 8

    It's a One Nation one-party Conservative state from here on in, folks and I love it! <:-P
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Although for a fully functioning democracy, we do need a competent opposition.....
    ....... So good luck with that Labour ! ;)
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    Although for a fully functioning democracy, we do need a competent opposition.....
    ....... So good luck with that Labour ! ;)

    Of course, but Labour currently isn't up to the job.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Time for the Lib Dems, to shine ! :))
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Thunderpussy wrote: »
    Time for the Lib Dems, to shine ! :))

    Alas, The Strange Death of Liberal England (II).
  • stagstag In the thick of it!
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    Word on the street has it that UKIP is poised to become the opposition.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
    edited July 2016 Posts: 8,110
    stag wrote: »
    Word on the street has it that UKIP is poised to become the opposition.

    YES! I could totally see this happening. They are snatching away the labour seats in the north. Wolfe wants to position themselves as the new peoples party in a post-brexit world.

    Wait, how will this happen? Well I tell you.

    Firstly Theresa reMAYn is already backing away from her promise to keep Brexit a priority. She is essentially leaving it up to Scotland to decide when to start the negotiations. In doing this she is successfully alienating the democratic vote of 17.5 million Brits. This has already hurt her, with UKIP suddenly gaining 2 thousand new members the day after May took office. It was always clear she would be weak on Brexit.

    Secondly is Labours current pickle. If there is any party that Corbyns continuous ills helps most, its UKIP. While Labour continues its infighting, UKIP is quickly rebranding and reorganising itself for the next general election. It really wouldn't surprise me if UKIP where opposition in 2020.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited July 2016 Posts: 17,813
    This is brilliant. "A tone poem based on the biblical fall of Neil Kinnock." The only mistake is that this incident took place in 1983 and not 1984. It was in fact 2 October 1983 to be exact - Neil Kinnock is the new Leader of the Labour Party and this is the PR disaster that happened next. Many say his leadership of the Labour Party (1983-1992) never fully recovered from it:

    Neil Kinnock, falling endlessly into the sea:



    More on this event here:

    http://www.newstatesman.com/uk-politics/2009/09/neil-kinnock-waiting-afternoon

    And not forgetting this of course:



  • ChriscoopChriscoop North Yorkshire
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    As a wise man recently told me, the British are quite a sensible lot, Labour is in total meltdown, Corbyn is not a man for modern politics and little Owen is like a Steve Coogan character. I'm happy with may as prime minister and the tories in general, what we need to be careful of is any lurching to an extreme right as protest against the government as this would spook business and the financial sector, love them or hate them we need them.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Chriscoop wrote: »
    As a wise man recently told me, the British are quite a sensible lot, Labour is in total meltdown, Corbyn is not a man for modern politics and little Owen is like a Steve Coogan character. I'm happy with may as prime minister and the tories in general, what we need to be careful of is any lurching to an extreme right as protest against the government as this would spook business and the financial sector, love them or hate them we need them.

    Yes, I totally agree than an effective Opposition is a prerequisite for a strong and fully functioning democracy in a modern nation state like the United Kingdom. However, this is totally lacking at the minute with the Labour Party in mounting crisis and with a leadership challenge well under way. It's predicted now that Jeremy Corbyn will win the leadership contest with a larger mandate than he did a year ago.
  • patbpatb
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    I thought water was doing the job of destroying Alfas
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Some British General Election archive footage (another passion of mine, sorry). :D

    This brilliance from then PM James Callaghan MP at the 1979 General Election count needs to be seen by everyone with an interest in UK politics:

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
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    Keith Vaz, of all people!

    Keith Vaz quits as Home Affairs Committee chairman
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    MayDayDiVicenzo wrote: »
    Keith Vaz, of all people!

    Keith Vaz quits as Home Affairs Committee chairman
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37283328

    Yes, and he probably needs to step aside as an MP too.
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
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    Speaking of this, our favourite PM (not really) Mr Cameron HAS stepped down as a MP.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37342152
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    PropertyOfALady wrote: »
    Speaking of this, our favourite PM (not really) Mr Cameron HAS stepped down as a MP.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-37342152

    Interesting. He'll be ready for the House of Lords next.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    And in other news no one gives the slightest toss about; in Doncaster today a Mr Arnold Warburton came home to find his boiler had packed up. He's called the engineer who will come round on Thursday.

    I'm surprised the BBC even considered this worthy of reporting.

    What next? 'Ed Milliband bought a t-shirt and two pairs of jeans in River Island'? Nick Clegg seen at Whetherspoons in Tamworth?

    Yesterday's men are called that for a reason.

  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,675
    Well, it could be worse.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited September 2016 Posts: 17,813
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    And in other news no one gives the slightest toss about; in Doncaster today a Mr Arnold Warburton came home to find his boiler had packed up. He's called the engineer who will come round on Thursday.

    I'm surprised the BBC even considered this worthy of reporting.

    What next? 'Ed Milliband bought a t-shirt and two pairs of jeans in River Island'? Nick Clegg seen at Whetherspoons in Tamworth?

    Yesterday's men are called that for a reason.

    Well, he was the Prime Minister so I think it's more than newsworthy.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    Dragonpol wrote: »
    TheWizardOfIce wrote: »
    And in other news no one gives the slightest toss about; in Doncaster today a Mr Arnold Warburton came home to find his boiler had packed up. He's called the engineer who will come round on Thursday.

    I'm surprised the BBC even considered this worthy of reporting.

    What next? 'Ed Milliband bought a t-shirt and two pairs of jeans in River Island'? Nick Clegg seen at Whetherspoons in Tamworth?

    Yesterday's men are called that for a reason.

    Well, he was the Prime Minister     so I think it's more than newsworthy.

    Until he petulantly downed tools when the vote didn't go his way.

    Before the vote: 'It will my duty to implement the will of the British people'.

    5 minutes after the vote with the pound plunging and the country in a constitutional crisis: 'See ya later'.

    The guy is supposed to be our leader but just shits the bed the moment something goes against him? Thank Christ Putin didn't invade with Dave in charge is all I can say.

    Deserves only to be a comedic footnote in history as the bloke who came up with 'The Big Society' and managed to let Nigel Farage win the Brexit vote despite starting with a massive lead.
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
    edited September 2016 Posts: 17,813
    I must say that I'm a bit shocked about David Cameron's stepping down as an MP (for Witney, west Oxfordshire) yesterday but I suppose it was inevitable given how the new PM Theresa May has changed so many of his flagship policies. According to the newspapers today Cameron wanted to have the freedom to criticise the new May government and its differentiating policies from outside of Parliament by giving up being a backbench MP.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37342152

    David Cameron to stand down as an MP - BBC News:

  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Cameron Resignation Retrospective - The Huffington Post UK:

  • GerardGerard
    edited September 2016 Posts: 5,815
    I must say that the whole situation is funny. In fact, I haven't laughed so much since the day Jacques Chirac dissolved the parliament in 1997... and lost the majority at the general elections that followed (something that everybody, including myself, could have told him would happen). And it doesn't stop !
  • DragonpolDragonpol https://thebondologistblog.blogspot.com
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    Gerard wrote: »
    I must say that the whole situation is funny. In fact, I haven't laughed so much since the day Jacques Chirac dissolved the parliament in 1997... and lost the majority at the general elections that followed (something that everybody, including myself, could have told him would happen). And it doesn't stop !

    Well I'm very glad that British politics can still amuse you, @Gerard. Shame that I can't say the same about French politics...
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