SPECTRE: Official Critics Review Topic (accumulative topic, NO SPOILERS, just links)

edited October 2015 in SPECTRE Posts: 11,119
Down below a collection of all the (mainly British) reviews of "SPECTRE". Most reviews are rated with a stars-system. Highest rated review is on top:

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full 5 stars:
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, MI6-HQ.com, @DoubleoNothing: "Whilst 'Skyfall' was a critical and financial success, there were many amongst the dedicated fans that felt it veered too widely from the classic James Bond mould and simply had too many contrivances..[.........]..With 'SPECTRE', Mendes has really flexed his directing muscles. It is fair to say that Mendes is more at home with actors and eliciting performance than with cinematic savoir-faire, but with 'SPECTRE' there are some beautiful flourishes that really show that Mendes is far more than an actor's director, far more than a theatre director who has transposed his craft to the screen.":
https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/spectre-review-spoiler-free?t=&s=&id=03994
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Guardian (Peter Bradshaw): "James Bond is back, stylish, camp and sexily pro-Snowden":
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/21/spectre-review-james-bond-is-back-stylish-camp-and-sexily-pro-snowden
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Times: "This fourth outing for Daniel Craig as James Bond is achingly cool, as sleek and powerful as the silver Aston Martin DB10 that races through the movie.":
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/arts/film/article4592879.ece
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Telegraph: "A swaggering show of confidence":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/film/james-bond-spectre/review/
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Daily Mirror: "James Bond is back with a brutal blast as SPECTRE is rated best EVER":
http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-reviews/james-bond-back-brutal-blast-6677940
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, Sunday/Daily Express (Allan Hunter): "It's James Bond at his spectacular best":
http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/613833/James-Bond-Spectre-review
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, Sunday/Daily Express (Henry Fitzherbert): "SPECTRE is the best Bond ever!":
http://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/614169/Spectre-James-Bond-Daniel-Craig-review-film-Mississippi-Grind-The-Last-Witch-Hunter
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, Evening Standard (Ben Travis: "Until Innaritu's The Revenant comes out, Spectre shrugs off the weight of Skyfall's success and sets upon out-doing it.":
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/spectre-first-review-perhaps-even-better-than-skyfall-a3096316.html
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Daily Star: "Craig shines in another belting Bond flick":
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/movies/471350/Film-review-SPECTRE-12A
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, The Sun: "This is no typical Bond movie but it still delivers":
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/6703636/First-review-of-James-Bond-movie-Spectre.html
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, SFX Magazine (GamesRadar.com): "Perfect hybrid of vintage Bond panache and Craig era grit. Almost the true 50th anniversary film three years late...":
https://twitter.com/NickSetchfield/status/656938253346557952
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, HeatWorld.com: "James Bond 007 is back in the most Bond Bond film EVER!":
http://www.heatworld.com/2015/10/spectre-review-james-bonds-007-is-back-watch-trailer-and-see-release-date
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, IATA Magazine: "it rivals #CasinoRoyale and IMHO is better than #Skyfall":
https://twitter.com/Rob_Coppinger/
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, Der Tages Anzeiger (SWISS): ""SPECTRE" is a classic 007-flick....if it wasn't for that cute mouse who showed up":
http://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/kultur/kino/bond-und-die-lebenden-toten/story/19316709
--> ■ ■ ■ ■, De Telegraaf (DUTCH): "Marvellous spectacle with some shabby pieces":
http://www.telegraaf.nl/filmenuitgaan/film/filmrecensies/24651800/__Filmrecensie__Spectre__.html


4 out of 5 stars:
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, The Guardian/The Observer (Mark Kermode): "Another stellar outing for Bond":
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/25/spectre-review-another-stellar-outing-for-bond-mark-kermode[/b]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5xfbHPcNn4
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, The Huffington Post (.co.uk): "Daniel Craig As James Bond Is On Cracking Form, With Contemporary Plot But Nostalgic Nods Too":
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/22/james-bond-spectre-review-daniel-craig_n_8354940.html
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Empire Magazine: "Full marks to Mendes, Craig, Waltz, Fiennes and the location finder.":
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=138905
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, DenOfGeek.com: "Craig brings history and mortality to Bond; in SPECTRE's swerving, sinister plot, he remains its vital, beating heart":
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/spectre/37455/spectre-review
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Daily Mail: "A movie that warrants ALL the hype with 007 returning to his murderous, glamorous best":
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/reviews/article-3283684/Spectre-review-Bond-s-white-suit-spectacular-joyride-film-BRIAN-VINER-says-Spectre-warrants-hype.html
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, IndieWire (Demetrios Matheou): "The Zen Perfection of 'SPECTRE', nostalgic Feast for Bond Fans":
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/review-the-zen-perfection-of-spectre-nostalgic-feast-for-bond-fans-video-20151021
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Scotland Herald: "Exhilarating Bond for these post-Snowden times":
http://www.heraldscotland.com/arts_ents/13887147.Alison_Rowat_film_review__Spectre/
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, BBC Radio 1: "Rhianna Dillon brings you the first Spectre review fresh from the screening in London's Leicester Square":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKA6yycTBls
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, BBC.com/culture: "From vodka martinis to exploding buildings, Spectre is stuffed with old Bond movie ingredients":
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20151022-film-review-is-spectre-the-best-bond-yet
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, DigitalSpy.co.uk: "Spectre will go down as Craig's stab at going full-blown BOND - big, bold and a bit more like Roger Moore":
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/movies/review/a674869/spectre-review-daniel-craig-embraces-bonds-classic-formula-but-it-doesnt-pack-skyfalls-emotional-punch.html#~prPaTWaLateNbz
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, TheArtsDesk.com: "Surely Daniel Craig can't quit just as he's getting so good at it?":
http://www.theartsdesk.com/film/spectre
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Algemeen Dagblad (DUTCH): "Daniel Craig has to stay as agent 007!":
http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1023/Film/article/detail/4168786/2015/10/23/AD-ziet-Spectre-Daniel-Craig-moet-blijven-als-James-Bond.dhtml
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, GamesRadar.com/TotalFilm: "SPECTRE ranks as a sleek, pulse-pounding if slightly overlong entertainment that should have little trouble emulating its predecessor":
http://www.gamesradar.com/spectre-review/
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, ITV News: "Exciting action and laugh out loud funny":
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-10-22/james-bond-spectre-review-spectacular-action-scenes-and-surprisingly-funny/
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, NME.com: "Almost a decade after "Casino Royale" stripped 007 back to his barest essentials, Spectre is the gradual layering back on of the old garb":
http://www.nme.com/reviews/various-artists/16306
--> ■ ■ ■ ■ □, NoMoreWorkHorse.com (IRISH): "If you’re not already a Bond fan this may be the movie that converts you and if you are you will analyse it to death":
http://nomoreworkhorse.com/2015/10/24/spectre-film-review/


3.5 out of 5 stars:
--> ■ ■ ■ ▪ □, IGN.com: ""SPECTRE" – the 24th official entry – delivers entertaining if unspectacular thrills":
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10/22/spectre-review
--> ■ ■ ■ ▪ □, Starburst Magazine: ""SPECTRE is an integrated remake of "Thunderball" and "You Only Live Twice" starring the core cast of the Daniel Craig-era":
http://www.starburstmagazine.com/reviews/latest-reviews-of-movies/13485-spectre-review
--> ■ ■ ■ ▪ □, RTE.ie.com (IRISH): "The Spy Who Bugged Me":
http://www.rte.ie/ten/reviews/movies/2015/1024/737225-review-spectre/


3 out of 5 stars:
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, The Independent: "Watching Bond be Bond, I didn't know whether to fist pump or facepalm":
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/reviews/reviewing-spectre-while-having-a-crisis-of-masculinity-a6703636.html
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, Evening Standard (David Sexton): "No license to thrill":
http://www.standard.co.uk/goingout/film/spectre-film-review-no-license-to-thrill-a3097166.html
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, The Irish Times: "James Bond back on form, but...":
http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/film/spectre-review-james-bond-back-on-form-but-1.2404967
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, ScreenDaily.com: "Mendes and his production have reimagined the SPECTRE criminal gang for 2015 and it’s one of the production’s more successful elements":
http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/spectre-review/5095793.article?blocktitle=The-Latest&contentID=598
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, The Hollywood Reporter: "Spectre contains enough dazzle and derring-do to keep the Bond brand afloat, but not enough to make it a game-changing reboot in the manner of Skyfall":
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/spectre-film-review-833833
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, WhatCulture.com: "James Bond Is Ridiculous Again In This Disappointing (But Fun) Outing":
http://whatculture.com/film/spectre-review-disappointing-but-fun-james-bond-is-ridiculous-again.php
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, TimeOut London: "Sam Mendes and Daniel Craig take James Bond for another spin, with messy but enjoyable results":
http://www.timeout.com/london/film/spectre
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, HeyUGuys: "They expanded the character [James Bond] far too much":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqesjQEAYcU
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, TheMovieBit.com (IRISH): "It’s a very slick commercial for Tom Ford’s gorgeous tailoring and numerous designer eyewear that shade SPECTRE from its glaring flaws.":
http://www.themoviebit.com/2015/10/spectre-review_24.html
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, The Skinny: "Daniel Craig is back as super spy James Bond in Spectre, but the 007 franchise is back to its old":
http://www.theskinny.co.uk/film/new-releases/spectre-daniel-craig
--> ■ ■ ■ □ □, WOW247.co.uk: "A good Bond, but not a great Bond":
http://www.wow247.co.uk/2015/10/22/spectre-review-a-good-bond-but-not-a-great-bond/


2 out of 5 stars:
--> ■ ■ □ □ □, The Financial Times: "SPECTRE: tailoring, tie-pins and a wobbly tone":
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/eec8fbde-7809-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html
--> ■ ■ □ □ □, GQ Magazine (BRITISH): "SPECTRE feels overcooked":
http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/entertainment/articles/2015-10/22/spectre-film-review-helen-o-hara
--> ■ ■ □ □ □, IndieWire Oliver Lyttelton: ""SPECTRE" will please both the hardcore and the more casual fan":
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/review-sam-mendes-spectre-starring-daniel-craig-christoph-waltz-lea-seydoux-ralph-fiennes-20151021
--> ■ ■ □ □ □, CineVue: "Perhaps, if Craig hangs up his holster, it may breathe new life into the franchise":
http://www.cine-vue.com/2015/10/film-review-spectre.html


reviews with no rating:
--> The Wrap: "“Spectre” is strongest is when it explores the central theme: What is the point of men like Bond in an era where information is power and drones can do his job without racking up an eye-watering bar tab and dry cleaning bill?":
http://www.thewrap.com/spectre-review-007-james-bond-daniel-craig-christoph-waltz/
--> LittleWhiteLies.co.uk: "Bond 24 is an enormous, multi-tentacled beast!":
http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/spectre-32122
--> Cinetelerevue.be (FRENCH): ""SPECTRE" is a spectacular 007 but can't top "SkyFall"":
http://cinetelerevue.be/fr/nous-avons-vu-le-nouveau-james-bond.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=34783
--> The Irish Examiner (IRISH): "SPECTRE is ambitious and entertaining at times, but there is that nagging feeling that more could have been done":
http://www.irishexaminer.com/technow/movies/spectre-review-361232.html



Reviews counted:
49: Total Reviews counted so far
15: Reviews with 5.0 stars
16: Reviews with 4.0 stars
03: Reviews with 3.5 stars
11: Reviews with 3.0 stars
04: Reviews with 2.0 stars

Average rating so far:
3.888 stars ≈ 4 stars



Rating it the Tomatometer-way, but with MI6-co.uk-objectivity:
I strictly exclude 2.5 stars, 2 stars, 1.5 stars and 1 star reviews from the "Fresh"-list. Every review that has 3 stars or higher I put into the "Fresh"-field. I have taken a more extensive look at how RottenTomatoes.com is branding reviews with "Fresh" and "Rotten", and sometimes they mark 3-stars reviews with "Rotten" and other 3-stars reviews with "Fresh", which is inaccurate if you ask me. Furthermore, I excluded reviews who doesn't have any star-rating at all, as I want to stay as objective as possible (RottenTomatoes.com sometimes scans the non-star-rated reviews in a very subjective way and include them into the Tomato-count).

So 'our' Tomatometer would be:
45: "Fresh" reviews
04: "Rotten" reviews
Adjusted Tomatometer: 91.837 ≈ 92%



One final remark: I am not sure if I can continue this when the USA reviews come in :-O! It's wayyy too much work. So if someone would like to take over? Please be my guest later this week :-).
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Comments

  • Posts: 11,119
    I think our dear @DoubleoNothing from our beloved MI6community forum, A.K.A. Ben Williams, deserves a big, fat mention here :-):

    ■ ■ ■ ■ ■, MI6-HQ.com, @DoubleoNothing: "Whilst 'Skyfall' was a critical and financial success, there were many amongst the dedicated fans that felt it veered too widely from the classic James Bond mould and simply had too many contrivances..[.........]..With 'SPECTRE', Mendes has really flexed his directing muscles. It is fair to say that Mendes is more at home with actors and eliciting performance than with cinematic savoir-faire, but with 'SPECTRE' there are some beautiful flourishes that really show that Mendes is far more than an actor's director, far more than a theatre director who has transposed his craft to the screen.":
    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/articles/spectre-review-spoiler-free?t=&s=&id=03994
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,432
    Very surprised Bradshaw gave it 5 stars.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    Very surprised Bradshaw gave it 5 stars.

    Me too @RC7. I'm starting to believe that any bit of backlash or negativity in reviews now mostly exists due to the comparison made with "Skyfall" and not because of what "SPECTRE" offers us....

    This could be the Bond-film that fans like as much as "Casino Royale".
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,432
    RC7 wrote: »
    Very surprised Bradshaw gave it 5 stars.

    Me too @RC7. I'm starting to believe that any bit of backlash or negativity in reviews now mostly exists due to the comparison made with "Skyfall" and not because of what "SPECTRE" offers us....

    This could be the Bond-film that fans like as much as "Casino Royale".

    Yeah, a review that says 'Not as good as Skyfall' isn't even a review. It's just a pointless assertion.
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 948
    The Mi6 review sounds a *little* too gushing in its praise, but that may all be true. Fingers crossed. The reviews of fans are often closer to what i look for anyway in a new Bond.

    It seems to be mainly the foreign (American) press who are down on the film(?). With the exception of the Indie, the british press, both tabloid and broadsheet is pretty positive/very positive.

    This sort of thing is good for word of mouth

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34600980

    In the top 5 read articles on one of the UKs most visited websites...
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe JK ROFLing
    Posts: 7,164
    Do you think EON will be interested in how people are reacting to the film?
  • Posts: 11,119
    Do you think EON will be interested in how people are reacting to the film?

    What do you think darling :-P?

  • Posts: 11,119
    RC7 wrote: »
    RC7 wrote: »
    Very surprised Bradshaw gave it 5 stars.

    Me too @RC7. I'm starting to believe that any bit of backlash or negativity in reviews now mostly exists due to the comparison made with "Skyfall" and not because of what "SPECTRE" offers us....

    This could be the Bond-film that fans like as much as "Casino Royale".

    Yeah, a review that says 'Not as good as Skyfall' isn't even a review. It's just a pointless assertion.

    Still, it could say something about "Skyfall"s future status as a 'classic evergreen'?
  • Posts: 1,063
    It's currently 90% with 20 reviews at Rotten Tomatoes with a 7.2 rating. I think it will finish in the low 80s.
  • Posts: 948
    mark kermodes review looks like it might be positive having read a comment someone posted on his Twitter feed.
  • Posts: 11,119
    The_Reaper wrote: »
    It's currently 90% with 20 reviews at Rotten Tomatoes with a 7.2 rating. I think it will finish in the low 80s.

    I'd say high 80's or perhaps close to "Skyfall"s 92%.

    Anyway, Empire Magazine review for "SPECTRE" is online:
    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Empire Magazine: "Full marks to Mendes, Craig, Waltz, Fiennes and the location finder.":
    http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=138905

    And now let's compare this review with Empire's reviews for Craig's previous three Bond films:

    "CASINO ROYALE":
    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Empire Magazine: "Daniel Craig has done more with James Bond in one film than some previous stars have in multiple reprises.":
    http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=10199

    "QUANTUM OF SOLACE":
    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Empire Magazine: " The only real caveat is that while it’s exciting and imaginative, it’s not exactly anyone’s idea of fun.":
    http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=134523

    "SKYFALL":
    ■ ■ ■ ■ □, Empire Magazine: "Cool but not camp, respectful of tradition but up to the moment, serious in its thrills and relatively complex in its characters.":
    http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=137076
  • edited October 2015 Posts: 11,119
    Dutch News Site NU.nl summarizes the reviews of "SPECTRE" with the title "New Bond film gets 5 stars from British newspapers":
    http://www.nu.nl/film/4150064/nieuwe-james-bond-krijgt-5-sterren-van-britse-kranten.html

    I think the Dutch can call themselves 'Surrogate-Brits' now :-P.
  • 00Ralf00Ralf Germany
    Posts: 146
    Here's one to include in your list, Gustav. Unfortunately 2/5 stars. Financial Times:
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/eec8fbde-7809-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html

    "After the sombre excellence of Skyfall, Spectre tries to tweak the formula while clearly being thrown into panic at the thought."
  • Posts: 11,119
    00Ralf wrote: »
    Here's one to include in your list, Gustav. Unfortunately 2/5 stars. Financial Times:
    http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/2/eec8fbde-7809-11e5-933d-efcdc3c11c89.html

    "After the sombre excellence of Skyfall, Spectre tries to tweak the formula while clearly being thrown into panic at the thought."

    Added ;-). But 2 stars?? Hmmm, let's see...
  • Posts: 6,601
    I think, it wil go up on RT, matching SF's 92%
  • 00Ralf00Ralf Germany
    Posts: 146
    Thanks. Well, on RT it says 2 stars. Not sure if that counts. ;)
  • Posts: 11,119
    I have sorted all the reviews so far in the opening post.
  • MrcogginsMrcoggins Following in the footsteps of Quentin Quigley.
    Posts: 3,138
    @Gustav Graves thank you for your hard work in putting all this together for us .
  • Posts: 1,063
    Still at 90% with 22 reviews but that 7.1 rating is somewhat lackluster compared to the percentage. It's just the way it works on RT; it's not an exact science but the rating is a better indication of overall quality, IMO. SF is 93% and 8.2, a significant difference.

    Here's the consensus: TOMATOMETER
    90%
    Average Rating: 7.1/10
    Reviews Counted: 22
    Fresh: 20
    Rotten: 2

    "Critics Consensus: Spectre nudges Daniel Craig's rebooted Bond closer to the glorious, action-driven spectacle of earlier entries, although it's admittedly reliant on established 007 formula."

    Nothing is set in stone after so few reviews but there it is.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Mrcoggins wrote: »
    @Gustav Graves thank you for your hard work in putting all this together for us .

    I have sorted all the reviews in the opening post from highest rated review to lowest rated reviews. So far 30 reviews have been posted, including just a moment ago the review from The Huffington Post.

    Then I did some calculations.......

    Reviews counted:
    30: Total Reviews counted so far
    11: Reviews with 5 stars
    11: Reviews with 4 stars
    06: Reviews with 3 stars
    02: Reviews with 2 stars

    So the average rating so far is:
    4.033 stars ≈ 4 stars

    I can only conclude that on average the reviews have been not 'just OK, slightly lower than "SF"'. No, they are, so far, mostly very good, with only 2 out of 30 reviews that could be brandmarked 'rotten'. Thus reviews so far do indeed mirror the reviews from "Skyfall".

    It gets different when you really start reading all the reviews in detail. Then, obviously, a lot of comparisons are made with "Skyfall".

    So no reason so far to think lowly of "SPECTRE". It is en route to score a Tomato-meter rating on RT of between 86% and 94%. Let's see what the USA will bring us....
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,021
    @Gustav_Graves

    Very nice, now we have the complete picture!

    @The_Reaper

    Thanks for putting those numbers up, if I had done it I would get bashed by @Germanlady

    I'm very glad that most critics give Spectre 4 or even 5 stars. I have a feeling that Spectre can be as good as CR, and I have said so countless times. But ignoring mixed reviews or negating the scores on RT or MetaCritic is just dumb.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited October 2015 Posts: 23,883
    So no reason so far to think lowly of "SPECTRE". It is en route to score a Tomato-meter rating on RT of between 86% and 94%. Let's see what the USA will bring us....

    And this is exactly as we expected it to be. There are no surprises here. The film appears to be good - not sure if great yet. Given the very high expectations set by SF, that is a positive, because it appears that despite such expectations, SP is measuring up. If the expectations had been lower (as they were when SF followed QoS) then the reviews might have been in total more positive.

    As I've said before, and as you allude to above, the real test will be the US media, who love to knock a front runner down a few notches. I am hoping that the positive press continues for the two week period (like it did for SF) so that when the US picks up the baton in a fortnight they will be prevented from unnecessary bashing (although I do welcome critical comments by them if warranted).

    I agree with you @BondJasonBond006, all reviews should be counted - the good, and the bad.
  • Posts: 11,119
    Tomatometer now at 91%. Thanks @The_Reaper. I guess we have another very good RT-rating for a Bond-film. But let's wait a bit.....till the dust settles. A final RT-rating between 86% and 94% is very well possible.

    It will be interesting to see how IMDB-voters will vote for the film....

    My impression is that "SPECTRE" will be the most 'classic Bond', a more welcome return to the 007-formula. BUT this has been done slowly and gently over the course of 4 Bond adventures. Thus I wouldn't be surprised if audience ratings will be higher than critics ratings.
  • RC7RC7
    Posts: 10,432
    As they say, 'lightning doesn't strike twice', especially after 53 years and 24 films, so the simple fact that SP is getting decent and some brilliant reviews is a great sign IMO. It was always unlikely it was going to best SF; hitting the cultural zeitgeist twice in a row is the reserve of successful new trilogies, not stalwarts of cinema. If this were after QoS it would be regarded as a masterpiece no doubt. Everything is relative.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
    Posts: 9,021
    Rotten Tomatoes at 88% with 7.1 out of 10 rating.
    Metacritic still at 70% with 6 good and 4 mixed reviews.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
    Posts: 11,090
    RC7 wrote: »
    As they say, 'lightning doesn't strike twice', especially after 53 years and 24 films, so the simple fact that SP is getting decent and some brilliant reviews is a great sign IMO. It was always unlikely it was going to best SF; hitting the cultural zeitgeist twice in a row is the reserve of successful new trilogies, not stalwarts of cinema. If this were after QoS it would be regarded as a masterpiece no doubt. Everything is relative.

    Exactly!

    Some of these reviewers have missed the point of what Mendes wanted to achieve. He didn't want to make SF2, he wanted to make a very different movie that celebrates Bond as opposed to exploring the impact of emotional depths. Looks like Mendes etc al succeeded and now more than ever I'm convinced and still hoping some of the reviews that say it's better than SF and in par with CR hold true.

  • Last_Rat_StandingLast_Rat_Standing South Florida
    Posts: 3,575
    When was the last time we had seen a higher reviewed and rated Bond film, follow another highly reviewed and rated Bond film? Outside of the first three Connery's it always seemed like if we got a highly praised Bond film, the next one fell short. Such as TSWLM followed by MR, CR followed by QOS etc.
  • RC7 wrote: »
    As they say, 'lightning doesn't strike twice', especially after 53 years and 24 films, so the simple fact that SP is getting decent and some brilliant reviews is a great sign IMO. It was always unlikely it was going to best SF; hitting the cultural zeitgeist twice in a row is the reserve of successful new trilogies, not stalwarts of cinema. If this were after QoS it would be regarded as a masterpiece no doubt. Everything is relative.

    Yeah, I think in some ways, Skyfall is like an albatross around the series' neck. I'm seeing some reviews that say Spectre doesn't match the "emotional stakes" or have the same "impact". Well, how could it? SF had a one off event where they killed a beloved character who'd been a part of the series for 7 films. And people are expecting the followup to match that in terms of impact? Was never possible, was never going to happen, short of actually killing James Bond. And EON knew that chasing that kind of feeling and creating Skyfall II just couldn't work, so it seems like they've focused on doing another style of classic Bond movie.
  • mcdonbbmcdonbb deep in the Heart of Texas
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    Yea SP is kinda Craig's Moonraker ...or better his TB.
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