What actually happened to Pierce Brosnan?

I've heard and read many things - even quotes from Pierce - and everything is so topsy-turvy. What actually happened to Pierce Brosnan? Was he fired? Did his contract expire? Did he quit voluntarily?

What exactly happened and what was the background behind it?
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  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    His contract expired. It was not renewed
  • Thanks so much for the prompt reply!
  • NicNacNicNac Administrator, Moderator
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    https://www.mi6-hq.com/sections/bonds/brosnan.php3?t=tnd&s=tnd
    It doesn't answer all the questions, but if you take a look around the main site you can piece it all together.
  • Thank you!
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    He was thankfully finally sacked.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Yes, after three he was on a film per film basis, the
    producers just didn't hire him again.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    He was thankfully finally sacked.

    Wrong, his contract came to an end.
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    He was thankfully finally sacked.

    Wrong, his contract came to an end.
    He's messing with you. Thunderfinger isn't a Brosnan fan so he likes to playfully pick on him. Much to my sadness. :))
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    Yes, after three he was on a film per film basis, the
    producers just didn't hire him again.

    BB said that after DAD which was very, very fantasy and sci-fi loaded they (her and MGW) wanted to change the direction. Furthermore CR's rights were finally in the hand of EON and BB + MGW didn't want to lose any time to shoot CR and Brosnan would not have fit in as they wanted to do CR as it was meant to be, Bond's first mission.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Agreed, just bad timing for Pierce.
  • Posts: 11,425
    DrGorner wrote: »
    Yes, after three he was on a film per film basis, the
    producers just didn't hire him again.

    BB said that after DAD which was very, very fantasy and sci-fi loaded they (her and MGW) wanted to change the direction. Furthermore CR's rights were finally in the hand of EON and BB + MGW didn't want to lose any time to shoot CR and Brosnan would not have fit in as they wanted to do CR as it was meant to be, Bond's first mission.

    Brosnan may not have been technically sacked but it's clear that EON on longer wanted to work with him.
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    Basically preople who like Brosnan think he wasn't rehired for the film.
    People who dislike him think he was sacked ! :D So you take your pick. :D
  • MurdockMurdock The minus world
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    At least Brosnan had one more adventure after Die Another Day which was a big step up. ;)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Ahhhh that was ridiculously epic. Brings back so many memories playing EoN.

    That video showcasing the level combined with Dalton's Bond theme was just magic
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    DrGorner wrote: »
    Basically preople who like Brosnan think he wasn't rehired for the film.
    People who dislike him think he was sacked ! :D So you take your pick. :D

    I like Brosnan the man but still think he was sacked ;)
  • ThunderpussyThunderpussy My Secret Lair
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    It's all semantics , like meeting an old friend after many years,
    you can say " My you've filled out nicely" or to put the boot in...
    .. " Wow, you're a fat b*$tard Now".
    Just depends how nice or nasty you want to be. ;)
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    To be sacked means to be fired from the job. If Brosnan fulfilled his contractual commitments where he didn't owe the producers anything and the producers didn't owe him anything, was he really fired? I know it must sting not being asked to come back but surely, neither side can claim foul play.

    Personally, I think that in Brosnan's case he was the only actor out of the 6 who's contribution and relationship with the producers was the most business-like and the least familial. Even Lazenby had all the stops pulled out to get him to stay, we all know Connery's situation, Moore was begged to stay continuously and Dalton was asked to come back too but declined and let's not even bother talking about Craig because he might as well change his last name to Broccoli.
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    I think after starring in one of the most commercially successful Bonds (DAD) and being a very popular Bond you can only really see it as quite negative. EON clearly were not very happy with him.

    I do feel a bit sorry for him, but I also see where EON were coming from.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    It's true about Broccoli and Craig in particular. The look below says a lot.

    0e8t4151.jpg

    I agree that Brosnan and EON seemed to have a less familial relationship, and so when the time came to reboot with CR when they got the rights, I don't think it was all that difficult for EON to make the change. It was just business. I'm pretty sure that the immense success of Bourne played a part as well though. Damon did fantastic work in the first film and redefined the spy role in a more realistic way for a post 911 world, which must have impacted EON's decision process for a new actor.

    I think they'll have a much more difficult time getting rid of Craig, just like they found it so difficult to part ways with Moore.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    Wow I've never seen that pic before. Craig and the producers are literally in bed together, although, the hotel room looks like a budget accommodation.

    I think if the producers put in as much effort as they did to get Mendes back, who knows what they'll do to keep Craig. Anyway, in Brosnan's defence his best work is his post Bond career and although he may have looked tge part for Bond, he was always a fan boy of tge series who had the opportunity to star as the leading character and that's something he'll always have. He got to live the dream.
  • BondJasonBond006BondJasonBond006 on fb and ajb
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    If EON wouldn't have won the rights for CR, Brosnan would have gotten his fifth movie.
    BB + MGW finally being able to do Casino Royale was the game changer.

    That EON wasn't happy with Brosnan is nonsense. Thanks to Brosnan the franchise was put on a new level of success twice!! First with GE, second with DAD.

    BB said it herself: After DAD and getting the rights to CR they wanted to change the direction.
    It's obvious that CR could not have been made with Brosnan.

    As for BB being so fond of Craig, just imagine how quickly that will be over if Spectre doesn't perform as expected.
  • SzonanaSzonana Mexico
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    If EON wouldn't have won the rights for CR, Brosnan would have gotten his fifth movie.
    BB + MGW finally being able to do Casino Royale was the game changer.

    That EON wasn't happy with Brosnan is nonsense. Thanks to Brosnan the franchise was put on a new level of success twice!! First with GE, second with DAD.

    BB said it herself: After DAD and getting the rights to CR they wanted to change the direction.
    It's obvious that CR could not have been made with Brosnan.

    As for BB being so fond of Craig, just imagine how quickly that will be over if Spectre doesn't perform as expected.


    You took the words out of my mind, i totally agree with you.
    I saw the documentary everything or nothing and that's exactly what happened, Pierce left the part because they really wanted to do Casino Royale and that film needed a new actor o make us believe that was his first mission.

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    The film needed a much MUCH younger actor to make us believe this was his first mission with that script, probably 25 or less. I still think doing CR as Broz' last film would have been terrific too, where it looks like he is going to have a happy ending and a way out, but ... no. Often wondered if that is what QT intended with his version.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Lol, Craig isn't that much younger
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    My point exactly.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    I think it came down to babs having the chemistry with Dan that she never had with pierce. Go figure
  • edited August 2015 Posts: 1,778
    doubleoego wrote: »
    To be sacked means to be fired from the job. If Brosnan fulfilled his contractual commitments where he didn't owe the producers anything and the producers didn't owe him anything, was he really fired? I know it must sting not being asked to come back but surely, neither side can claim foul play.

    Personally, I think that in Brosnan's case he was the only actor out of the 6 who's contribution and relationship with the producers was the most business-like and the least familial. Even Lazenby had all the stops pulled out to get him to stay, we all know Connery's situation, Moore was begged to stay continuously and Dalton was asked to come back too but declined and let's not even bother talking about Craig because he might as well change his last name to Broccoli.

    Very true. EON has always made it a point to hold onto their leading man as long as they can (sometimes too long) and Brosnan was the only case where they dumped their James Bond. And when he still conceivable could've had one more film left in him to boot.

    They threw the bank at Connery for DAF and offered him an even greater sum for LADL. Even after Lazenby proved to be a pain in the ass and OHMSS underperformed they still offered him an absurdly lucrative 7 film contract. They offered Moore an 8th film despite the little fact that he would've been pushing 60 by 1987. They had every intention of filming a 3rd Dalton film. And it doesn't look like they're in any rush to part ways with Craig.
    If EON wouldn't have won the rights for CR, Brosnan would have gotten his fifth movie.
    BB + MGW finally being able to do Casino Royale was the game changer.

    That EON wasn't happy with Brosnan is nonsense. Thanks to Brosnan the franchise was put on a new level of success twice!! First with GE, second with DAD.

    BB said it herself: After DAD and getting the rights to CR they wanted to change the direction.
    It's obvious that CR could not have been made with Brosnan.

    As for BB being so fond of Craig, just imagine how quickly that will be over if Spectre doesn't perform as expected.

    There's this misconception out there that won't die that Brosnan's films were such box office juggernauts for the Bond series. When nothing can be further from the truth. Adjusted for inflation none of Brosnan's films even crack the top 10 highest grossing Bond films. Every Connery film (minus Dr. No) grossed more than Brosnan's entries. All 3 of Craig's films have left Brosnan's movies in the dust. And as far as Roger Moore goes, LALD, TSWLM, and MR all grossed considerably more.

    Yes Brosnan's films outgrossed both of Dalton's films but is that really something to brag about? The series was running on fumes at that point as far as the general public was concerned. Atleast when compared to it's prior success.

    BTW this isn't Brosnan bashing. It's just simple numbers.
    Lol, Craig isn't that much younger

    38 years old compared to 53 in 2006. I don't know but that sounds alot younger to me. Brosnan's oldest son is only about 4 years older than Daniel Craig.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    Brosnans films all made a shit ton of money no matter how hard you try and spin it.
  • Brosnans films all made a shit ton of money no matter how hard you try and spin it.

    I'm not disputing that his films made money. Every Bond film has. I'm just stating the fact that Brosnan's films made less money than half of the films in the series. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Look up the numbers for yourself.

    This whole notion of Bronson bringing the series to "new levels of success" is laughable. Financially the series peaked with Goldfinger and Thunderball and it wouldn't reach that level again for nearly another 50 years with Skyfall and hopefully Spectre. Critically you can basically say the same thing. Peaked in the 60s and re-emerged with the Craig Era.
  • ThomasCrown76ThomasCrown76 Augusta, ks
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    They did bring the series back to a level of success it hadn't seen for a long time. I get it, it just will kill you to say anything nice about the Brosnan films. I'm the same way about the roger moron movies.
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