Where does Bond go after Craig?

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  • Posts: 7,518
    I too like Jon Finch in 'Frenzy', and Polanskis 'Macbeth'
    He was also originally cast as Kane in 'Alien' but fell ill on first day of filming and John Hurt was cast ( And was Ridley Scotts first choice anyway!)
  • Posts: 2,008
    Frenzy! Hitchcock unleashed at last. Real nudity, swearing. The opening scene with the body floating in the Thames, "That's my school tie." What a great film.
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    I can't see Eon going with a darker portrayal in LALD after the success of DAF.

    Why they went edgier in TMWTGG I'll never know.
  • edited July 10 Posts: 1,394
    echo wrote: »
    I can't see Eon going with a darker portrayal in LALD after the success of DAF.

    Why they went edgier in TMWTGG I'll never know.

    I think they were trying to make it more Bondian. LALD was like an episode of The Saint but the best scene was when he tricks Solitaire with the cards.

    Plus, Dirty Harry movies were working well...
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    For me LALD is RM's best film.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    In terms of portrayal, it's Moonraker, I liked Moore's Bond in that film, he showed complexity, but it's just overshadowed by the more over the top aspects of the film, to which I may argue it's not, and it gets a lot of characters right (a truly menacing Bond villain with personality, a Bond Girl whose truly Bond's equal, a menacing henchman, some great fight scenes).

    For me, MR is Moore's best Bond film.
  • Posts: 1,860
    Mighty quiet on the news front.................not even interesting or ridiculous rumors to speak of.
  • TheSkyfallen06TheSkyfallen06 Buenos Aires, Argentina.
    Posts: 1,105
    delfloria wrote: »
    Mighty quiet on the news front.................not even interesting or ridiculous rumors to speak of.

    We might as well just say "screw it" and start to make up our own wacky rumors.
    Hear me out...
    Bugs Bunny as James Bond.
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    Why not. :))

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    It that a scope on her pistol? just asking.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    Dwayne wrote: »
    Why not. :))

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    Where's Timothy Dalton and Brendan Fraser? 😅
  • DwayneDwayne New York City
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    delfloria wrote: »
    It that a scope on her pistol? just asking.

    I hope so! :D
  • Posts: 1,634
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    In terms of portrayal, it's Moonraker, I liked Moore's Bond in that film, he showed complexity, but it's just overshadowed by the more over the top aspects of the film, to which I may argue it's not, and it gets a lot of characters right (a truly menacing Bond villain with personality, a Bond Girl whose truly Bond's equal, a menacing henchman, some great fight scenes).

    For me, MR is Moore's best Bond film.

    I've long disregarded MR, ever since it came out and I rushed to the theater to see it. One could tell even before seeing it, from the posters, that they would go past the barrier not crossed in YOLT, and put Bond in outer space. Sure enough, it over-used Jaws, presented a Pippi Longstockings-as-an-adult character to melt the heart of Jaws, and just got silly as heck. The ending was especially disappointing, with a double entendre not exceeded until TWINE (Xmas, once a year...). However, it DID have that terrific mano-a-mano in the shop up above the piano - shot with an interesting blue-and-black color scheme which might have gotten an homage (even if inadvertently) later with Craig, and it DID have the TB-esque parade scene in Rio, the quiet menace of the dogs chasing the lady into the woods, the OHMSS-esque scene in and ON the sky gondola, and more. Just that the tone went swinging wildly and some terrific opportunities were wasted. Overall, I never felt compelled to watch it again.

    So why do I write today ? To tell you that your notes raised some excellent points and you have encouraged me, for one, to watch it again and enjoy the good parts. For that, I thank you.
  • JustJamesJustJames London
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    There is a *ton* of Moore in the Craig era.
    Which shouldn’t remotely be surprising, as that would pretty much be the actual Bond he grew up watching.
  • Posts: 1,860
    Since62 wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    In terms of portrayal, it's Moonraker, I liked Moore's Bond in that film, he showed complexity, but it's just overshadowed by the more over the top aspects of the film, to which I may argue it's not, and it gets a lot of characters right (a truly menacing Bond villain with personality, a Bond Girl whose truly Bond's equal, a menacing henchman, some great fight scenes).

    For me, MR is Moore's best Bond film.

    I've long disregarded MR, ever since it came out and I rushed to the theater to see it. One could tell even before seeing it, from the posters, that they would go past the barrier not crossed in YOLT, and put Bond in outer space. Sure enough, it over-used Jaws, presented a Pippi Longstockings-as-an-adult character to melt the heart of Jaws, and just got silly as heck. The ending was especially disappointing, with a double entendre not exceeded until TWINE (Xmas, once a year...). However, it DID have that terrific mano-a-mano in the shop up above the piano - shot with an interesting blue-and-black color scheme which might have gotten an homage (even if inadvertently) later with Craig, and it DID have the TB-esque parade scene in Rio, the quiet menace of the dogs chasing the lady into the woods, the OHMSS-esque scene in and ON the sky gondola, and more. Just that the tone went swinging wildly and some terrific opportunities were wasted. Overall, I never felt compelled to watch it again.

    So why do I write today ? To tell you that your notes raised some excellent points and you have encouraged me, for one, to watch it again and enjoy the good parts. For that, I thank you.

    Agree on all points except...................I'm not quiet motivated to revisit it even for those moments.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Since62 wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    In terms of portrayal, it's Moonraker, I liked Moore's Bond in that film, he showed complexity, but it's just overshadowed by the more over the top aspects of the film, to which I may argue it's not, and it gets a lot of characters right (a truly menacing Bond villain with personality, a Bond Girl whose truly Bond's equal, a menacing henchman, some great fight scenes).

    For me, MR is Moore's best Bond film.

    I've long disregarded MR, ever since it came out and I rushed to the theater to see it. One could tell even before seeing it, from the posters, that they would go past the barrier not crossed in YOLT, and put Bond in outer space. Sure enough, it over-used Jaws, presented a Pippi Longstockings-as-an-adult character to melt the heart of Jaws, and just got silly as heck. The ending was especially disappointing, with a double entendre not exceeded until TWINE (Xmas, once a year...). However, it DID have that terrific mano-a-mano in the shop up above the piano - shot with an interesting blue-and-black color scheme which might have gotten an homage (even if inadvertently) later with Craig, and it DID have the TB-esque parade scene in Rio, the quiet menace of the dogs chasing the lady into the woods, the OHMSS-esque scene in and ON the sky gondola, and more. Just that the tone went swinging wildly and some terrific opportunities were wasted. Overall, I never felt compelled to watch it again.

    So why do I write today ? To tell you that your notes raised some excellent points and you have encouraged me, for one, to watch it again and enjoy the good parts. For that, I thank you.

    Have you not watched it in 45 years? I'm not going to say it's the best Bond movie or anything, but if you're a Bond fan there's still lots that great in there, and the score by itself enhances so much about it. I'm a Bond fan and although not all of the films are equal in my affections, there's not a one of them I haven't watched multiple times.
  • MaxCasinoMaxCasino United States
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    mtm wrote: »
    Since62 wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    In terms of portrayal, it's Moonraker, I liked Moore's Bond in that film, he showed complexity, but it's just overshadowed by the more over the top aspects of the film, to which I may argue it's not, and it gets a lot of characters right (a truly menacing Bond villain with personality, a Bond Girl whose truly Bond's equal, a menacing henchman, some great fight scenes).

    For me, MR is Moore's best Bond film.

    I've long disregarded MR, ever since it came out and I rushed to the theater to see it. One could tell even before seeing it, from the posters, that they would go past the barrier not crossed in YOLT, and put Bond in outer space. Sure enough, it over-used Jaws, presented a Pippi Longstockings-as-an-adult character to melt the heart of Jaws, and just got silly as heck. The ending was especially disappointing, with a double entendre not exceeded until TWINE (Xmas, once a year...). However, it DID have that terrific mano-a-mano in the shop up above the piano - shot with an interesting blue-and-black color scheme which might have gotten an homage (even if inadvertently) later with Craig, and it DID have the TB-esque parade scene in Rio, the quiet menace of the dogs chasing the lady into the woods, the OHMSS-esque scene in and ON the sky gondola, and more. Just that the tone went swinging wildly and some terrific opportunities were wasted. Overall, I never felt compelled to watch it again.

    So why do I write today ? To tell you that your notes raised some excellent points and you have encouraged me, for one, to watch it again and enjoy the good parts. For that, I thank you.

    Have you not watched it in 45 years? I'm not going to say it's the best Bond movie or anything, but if you're a Bond fan there's still lots that great in there, and the score by itself enhances so much about it. I'm a Bond fan and although not all of the films are equal in my affections, there's not a one of them I haven't watched multiple times.

    Yes, Moonraker is silly, but it knows it’s silly. Don’t let Richard Maibaum’s comments turn you away.
  • Posts: 4,226
    I really can’t dislike MR. It’s a bit daft (Bond seems to go from tenuous lead to tenuous lead a lot in this film) but it’s stylish and entertaining. Great villain too, and some very memorable scenes. I’ll also say the space scenes are among some of the least silly parts of the film!

    In a weird way I view it a bit like NTTD. It has an ‘anything goes’ element to it that I think some fans struggle with. But I find it well made and a good watch.
  • RichardTheBruceRichardTheBruce I'm motivated by my Duty.
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    MR has my favorite moment in all the films, probably for all time for me.

    007 getting pushed out of an airplane at altitude without a parachute. That setup and action always strikes me as the near perfect expression of Bond's potential.


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    MR has my favorite moment in all the films, probably for all time for me.

    007 getting pushed out of an airplane at altitude without a parachute. That setup and action always strikes me as the near perfect expression of Bond's potential.


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    But follows it up with some the most lame moments in the series as Jaws flaps his arms and does a bullseye into a random circus tent.
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    I always have an easy time with Moonraker. Perhaps that’s down to me having a lot of nostalgia for the film, but it’s always a good time whenever I put it on.
  • QBranchQBranch Always have an escape plan. Mine is watching James Bond films.
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    That shot of Bond falling away from the plane looks so amazing. I think the last time I got that wow factor from a Bond stunt may be in SF, when Craig ran across the top of the excavator arm and jumped into the train.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
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    The Moore Bond films were always outlandish to me, so I think I've expected the outlandishness of Moonraker, I already know that it's a part of Moore Era's nature, but compared to the previous Bond films, it's the film that got it right: in terms of characters (sans Jaws, but hey, Jaws is a cartoonish character for me either, not a menacing one, so his turn here isn't surprising to me), and Moore's portrayal and his Bond (which is more comfortable and showed more of his human and complex side), I think all aspects and things were all in place in this film, none of the things in this film disappoints.
  • Posts: 1,394
    Moonraker has Octopussy Syndrome. They went for the kids' money.

    Bond in space is a good idea but the movie ends up being a remake of TSWLM. It's a little frustrating.

    Anyway, the movie is fun.
  • SIS_HQSIS_HQ At the Vauxhall Headquarters
    edited July 20 Posts: 3,797
    Moonraker has Octopussy Syndrome. They went for the kids' money.

    Bond in space is a good idea but the movie ends up being a remake of TSWLM. It's a little frustrating.

    Anyway, the movie is fun.

    Remake of TSWLM in a better way, MR is what TSWLM should've been:
    * A strong, memorable villain with personality and charisma.
    * A Bond Girl whose a real equal of Bond himself, independent and could handle herself.
    * A Moore performance that's comfortable with natural (not forced) line deliveries and facial expressions, with a bit of evolution in how he treats women.
    * Excellent and haunting score (not discotheque).
    * Great, memorable lines.

    The thing is the space plot overshadows these good aspects of the film.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    delfloria wrote: »
    MR has my favorite moment in all the films, probably for all time for me.

    007 getting pushed out of an airplane at altitude without a parachute. That setup and action always strikes me as the near perfect expression of Bond's potential.


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    But follows it up with some the most lame moments in the series as Jaws flaps his arms and does a bullseye into a random circus tent.

    Aw, I love it for what it is.
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    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Moonraker has Octopussy Syndrome. They went for the kids' money.

    Bond in space is a good idea but the movie ends up being a remake of TSWLM. It's a little frustrating.

    Anyway, the movie is fun.

    Remake of TSWLM in a better way, MR is what TSWLM should've been:
    * A strong, memorable villain with personality and charisma.
    * A Bond Girl whose a real equal of Bond himself, independent and could handle herself.
    * A Moore performance that's comfortable with natural (not forced) line deliveries and facial expressions, with a bit of evolution in how he treats women.
    * Excellent and haunting score (not discotheque).
    * Great, memorable lines.

    The thing is the space plot overshadows these good aspects of the film.

    I’d personally say TSWLM’s the better film, but it’s also worth saying it’s effectively a very loose remake of YOLT. All the Gilbert films are spins on the same broad ideas. That’s not uncommon for Bond. I also think MR and TSWLM are different films in their own ways, so I wouldn’t fault it for having similarities to TSWLM.
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    TSPWLM is outlandish but it's Moore's most serious film. The tone is quite controlled here.

    I think it is the best of the Gilbert's trilogy. YOLT was undercooked and MR was Kinda childish.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    007HallY wrote: »
    SIS_HQ wrote: »
    Moonraker has Octopussy Syndrome. They went for the kids' money.

    Bond in space is a good idea but the movie ends up being a remake of TSWLM. It's a little frustrating.

    Anyway, the movie is fun.

    Remake of TSWLM in a better way, MR is what TSWLM should've been:
    * A strong, memorable villain with personality and charisma.
    * A Bond Girl whose a real equal of Bond himself, independent and could handle herself.
    * A Moore performance that's comfortable with natural (not forced) line deliveries and facial expressions, with a bit of evolution in how he treats women.
    * Excellent and haunting score (not discotheque).
    * Great, memorable lines.

    The thing is the space plot overshadows these good aspects of the film.

    I’d personally say TSWLM’s the better film, but it’s also worth saying it’s effectively a very loose remake of YOLT.

    And the villain’s scheme also has some roots in Thunderball too: TSWLM is kind of both of them combined- Stromberg steals some nuclear weapons as in TB, but he steals the vessels they’re in too! :)
    Really it’s TB done right: ransoming the bombs isn’t as scary as someone who just is going to set them off and can’t be bought out from doing so.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Lewis Gilbert loved having villains steal something by getting something else to eat it.
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