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31 American special forces troops die in helicopter crash

DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
edited August 2011 in General Discussion Posts: 15,690
Talibans claim to have shot down the helicopter, which killed 31 American special troops and 7 Afghans.

This is the worst single incident in Afghanistan.

<url>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8685756/Taliban-helicopter-attack-kills-31-US-special-forces-troops.html</url>;

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  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
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    And so the war on terror reads another dark page. I hope this can end one day.
  • CoH_GHOST_007CoH_GHOST_007
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    This just shows how tough it is out there and how brave these men/women are/were/.
    RIP to each and every one of those brave soldiers.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    WHAT?! We killed Osama and the war isn't over?! A lot of people treat these kinds of deaths as certain collateral damage, and I get sick of it. Same with Al Queda. We can thank them for Taliban's rise as well, due to their import of soldiers from Arab countries and central Asia. I have heard so many people talking garbage about the Middle East and who seemed to believe Osama was the sole Al Queda leader. And we as a country think one death will stop the fighting? Men will continue to be bred for war and told that to giving their lives in the service of the Afghan world is heroic, and they are told to take as many American lives as possible. My US can say they went to war to protect our country against terrorism, they can hint at oil and all that jazz, but I have no idea how this is protecting a country, and we sure as hell don't have the oil. Our economy is handled by the same people who expect to be bailed out for failing what they indeed are paid to do and damn well should be experienced at. We had for eight years the most ridiculous waste of life, who was still reelected for his acts in "helping" the country through the time. By how? Cheney was the real President, and that poor bastard believes a six foot man is a quail. Bush was a little puppet that sat silently on Cheney's old lap. Bush probably started every morning pissing off analysts when he would color on the PDF in Crayola and spill his warm milk when he had to go to the trouble to pass on or veto a bill. Things haven't gotten better and the men responsible get to retire and disappear, writing heroic tales of their lives. Not only couldn't Bush write a word, but he forgot the parts of his life where he was hammered and stoned. And his C+ average in grade school also fell through the cracks. I may sound a little strong here, but try living here before you criticize my views. That man for 8 years tried his hand at comedy and making up words of unintelligible substance. He tried to be cordial when announcing more deaths and he got to sit his stupid ass in the oval office while he was pampered while he told our nation everything would be alright. Funny stuff. It's weird how all the greatest presidents of resolve die, like Lincoln and JFK. Strategists and neutral men, who knew when sides shouldn't be picked, like Washington. Funny how men like Jefferson who made the Declaration of Independence and could have hung for treason aren't as well known. Funny how FDR gave his life(literally) for his country for 12 years. These midiots like Bush and his ex CIA(DCI) father(whos money and position in the government gave Bush his free ride to Yale and Harvard) get to fall off the face of the Earth. And the Americans in the Middle East get to pay for all my countries mistakes. These are the things that stop me from considering servicing my country at home or abroad. If I am to endanger my life for my country I want to work for people who know what the hell they're doing and I don't want my work to have been for nothing. That still hasn't changed, and the brave soldiers(the real heroes, not our Congress and officials)have to give their lives in a pointless war which will only kill and kill and become a dark mark on history. It will be Vietnam 2.0, and like Vietnam, the war effort in Iraq and Afghanistan will never be talked about in full context in our textbooks. Ask us Americans about the Vietnam War. Kids in schooling won't know a damn thing. Many grown Americans won't even know, even though they were born at the time of the war and felt its effects growing up. We have to do reading on our own time, and who wants to do that, right? But ask us about WW1 and 2 we'll write you a book. I've heard enough about bad Hitler, bad Hitler, yeah! US wins in epic finale! Is that really what we fought the Germans for? To gloat about the war later? Or is the US so much in the shitter that the government says 'Hey! See what we did as a country in WW1 and 2? Yeah, we really showed the Germans. We can still do that!' And the truth is we can't. We don't have the resolve and high number of ethical and brave men in our high positions anymore. We get men that screw us over and retire wealthy on profit and fake ideology. So we sit in school and read about wars we win and let the Vietnam War fall wayside, as if the people involved in the conflict didn't give everything for us. Thank you US for not letting us learn from our mistakes, because our officials sure as hell can't either. A dog will only sit on a hot plate that burns them once, sure, buts this is also the same dog who drinks from the toilet and sniffs their own ass after going to the bathroom on the carpet. The war in Afghanistan will continue down the path of the Vietnam War, and like Ho Chi Minh before them, the Taliban will turn on a country who helped them, and they even can't be blamed completely. We will help you now, but forget about you further on and still have the stupidity to wonder why our territory is being entered by terrorists. Cheers America! Land of the free and home of the brave. I would like to live in a time when that was actually considered a patriotic statement, and not a joke.

    I'm sorry but I had to get all that out of my system.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
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    0Brady, I....................... agree with you ! Excellent post !!
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Thanks @DC007. Don't worry, I agree with you too.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Sad to hear.

    Great post, @0Brady.
  • ShorelineShoreline
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    OBrady, that was a very heartfelt, and truthfull post. I havent been here for a while, but your post was quite something, I felt I had to commend you on it. Well said my friend, well said.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    Posts: 15,690
    It seems 20 of the Americans that were killed were members of the unit that killed Bin Laden.
  • j7wildj7wild Suspended
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    do any of yall even know why people in Afghanistan hate the Russian, the Americans and the British so much and why Russia invaded Afghanistan?
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
    edited August 2011 Posts: 28,694
    do any of yall even know why people in Afghanistan hate the Russian, the Americans and the British so much and why Russia invaded Afghanistan?
    GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED. Every country has it, but the extent varies. I'd rather be with you Brits than in the US for sure. I would be right at home with my two British loves, Bond and Sherlock Holmes.

  • timmertimmer
    edited August 2011 Posts: 4,622
    The Vietnam War isn't that tough to understand. In fact you can make the argument that
    the United States won the Vietnam War. America was never defeated on the battlefield, after all, and the United States compelled North Vietnam to sign a peace treaty. When American troops left South Vietnam, it was still a sovereign, independent, non-Communist country, and American troops had also given the rest of East Asia a 2 1/2-year breathing space from Communist expansion. It was only after Congress refused to hold North Vietnam accountable for violating the peace accords and walked away from America's commitment to South Vietnam that victory became defeat but peace protestors had been making a lot of noise, so that was that.
    Saigon fell in 1975, the Socialist Republic of Vietnam was created and misery and oppression followed.
    Basically the Vietnam war was a war against communist expansion in the region.
    The war in Afghanistan is a war against the Taliban. It may not be winnable though unless the Afghan army can ultimately sustain the fight.
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