I've never noticed that before...

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  • edited August 2020 Posts: 17,281
    It's not that long ago since I watched that scene, so that might be why I remembered it. Makes you wonder if there are any other pre-Craig era props that turns up in the Craig films… :-?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I was having a look at this still from CR earlier. Where have I seen that painting on the wall, and that frame before?

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    Of course, in Tracy's hotel room in OHMSS!

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    Wow, amazing spot!
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,343
    I was having a look at this still from CR earlier. Where have I seen that painting on the wall, and that frame before?

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    Of course, in Tracy's hotel room in OHMSS!

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    Well that’s really amazing! Bravo!
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    I wouldn't have noticed the panting if you didn't post that still on the furniture and interior thread, @matt_u!
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    If they keep all these interior items from previous films, it makes you wonder how huge their storage must be, doesn't it?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,956
    Whilst I'm sure Eon have a large archive of all types of stuff, I would imagine stuff like that is probably just held by independent prop hire companies who service the Pinewood area and have just had no reason to get rid of it! :)

    I remember a couple of years ago the makers of a fictionalised documentary about the beginnings of Doctor Who saying they were trying to get hold of something that could double for large ornate columns which were on the original TARDIS set in 1963, and when they tried a prop hire house for something similar they found they still had the very same columns in stock!
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 17,281
    mtm wrote: »
    Whilst I'm sure Eon have a large archive of all types of stuff, I would imagine stuff like that is probably just held by independent prop hire companies who service the Pinewood area and have just had no reason to get rid of it! :)

    I remember a couple of years ago the makers of a fictionalised documentary about the beginnings of Doctor Who saying they were trying to get hold of something that could double for large ornate columns which were on the original TARDIS set in 1963, and when they tried a prop hire house for something similar they found they still had the very same columns in stock!

    Yes, some of these items are probably likely to belong to prop hire companies. I can just imagine one of the set decorators though, finding this old painting all the way at the back of a dusty old storage room, thinking: "Ah, that'll do for M's home!"

    …or even better, that they watched OHMSS, thinking: "We need that framed painting for M's home."
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    Fictionalised documentary? Was it some sort of This Is Spinal Tap with a Dr. Who setting?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    That's probably the wrong term! :) More like a dramatised version of its beginnings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Adventure_in_Space_and_Time
  • matt_umatt_u better known as Mr. Roark
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,343
    I wouldn't have noticed the panting if you didn't post that still on the furniture and interior thread, @matt_u!
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    If they keep all these interior items from previous films, it makes you wonder how huge their storage must be, doesn't it?

    Yeah definitely!
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    There really are some sharp eyes on this forum.
    Good one, @mtm.
    I find it fascinating that painting would have been saved all those years.
    Both OHMSS and CR tend to rank in the top 2 among many fans. That painting is in excellent company.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 17,281
    mtm wrote: »
    That's probably the wrong term! :) More like a dramatised version of its beginnings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Adventure_in_Space_and_Time

    A bit like the Becoming Bond, then? :)

    I see that this one is written by Mark Gatiss as well (unsurprising given his involvement with the series). Wouldn't mind having him and Steven Moffat having a go at writing a Bond script at some point.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah I think they’d do an amazing Bond script: it’s right up their alley.

    ‘Sherlock’ (Despite mentioning Bond by name as fictional in an early series) even made an oblique reference to a ‘blunt instrument’ that one of Mycroft’s colleagues at MI6 liked to use! :)
  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    I haven t seen Sherlock, but their script for Dracula was absolutely dreadful.
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    I wouldn't have noticed the panting if you didn't post that still on the furniture and interior thread, @matt_u!
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    If they keep all these interior items from previous films, it makes you wonder how huge their storage must be, doesn't it?
    That's one of my fantasy scenarios to explore their warehouse or archives.

    Torgeirtrap, you should be working for the government on counterfeit or forgery cases. It must make watching the films we've seen many, many times in some cases, fresh when you make those discoveries.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I haven t seen Sherlock, but their script for Dracula was absolutely dreadful.

    Nah it was great. I watched all of it.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 17,281
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah I think they’d do an amazing Bond script: it’s right up their alley.

    ‘Sherlock’ (Despite mentioning Bond by name as fictional in an early series) even made an oblique reference to a ‘blunt instrument’ that one of Mycroft’s colleagues at MI6 liked to use! :)

    I think so too. I definitely think they could solve many of the issues the series has had with scripts the last 20+ years.

    Which episode was that, @mtm? I think I must have missed that line.
    I haven t seen Sherlock, but their script for Dracula was absolutely dreadful.

    You should give Sherlock a try! Haven't seen the Dracula series, so I can't comment on that one.

    BT3366 wrote: »
    I wouldn't have noticed the panting if you didn't post that still on the furniture and interior thread, @matt_u!
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    If they keep all these interior items from previous films, it makes you wonder how huge their storage must be, doesn't it?
    That's one of my fantasy scenarios to explore their warehouse or archives.

    Torgeirtrap, you should be working for the government on counterfeit or forgery cases. It must make watching the films we've seen many, many times in some cases, fresh when you make those discoveries.

    It would be quite the experience, that's for sure.

    Haha, I wish! No, that would require much more attention to detail than spotting a few things here and there :-) Looking for these items does make the viewing experience a bit more fun though. I've learned to appreciate the set designs more than I did before.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 17,281
    I'm watching another episode of The Saint tonight, and would you believe it…
    …22 minutes in, there's the painting from OHMSS and CR again, isn't it? Slightly different frame by the looks of it though.

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    Edit:
    And at 44 minutes, we see the other one from the OHMSS hotel room!

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    The painting is immortal.
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    Revelator wrote: »
    The painting is immortal.

    It really is. Does anyone know who the artist might be?
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    Amazing!
  • peterpeter Toronto
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    After Bond sleeps with Solitaire-- the second time (no sense in leaving half-cocked)-- they head into the poppy fields during the day... yet Kananga, who is giving his orders to stop them, is clearly shot at night (look at the windows behind him).
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    peter wrote: »
    After Bond sleeps with Solitaire-- the second time (no sense in leaving half-cocked)-- they head into the poppy fields during the day... yet Kananga, who is giving his orders to stop them, is clearly shot at night (look at the windows behind him).

    Interesting. Maybe there's a deleted or extended scene where he tells his guys to get a good night's sleep first and get Bond first thing in the morning. "At any cost, Bond must die. Get your rest, first, thought."
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,956
    peter wrote: »
    After Bond sleeps with Solitaire-- the second time (no sense in leaving half-cocked)-- they head into the poppy fields during the day... yet Kananga, who is giving his orders to stop them, is clearly shot at night (look at the windows behind him).

    Is it supposed to be very early in the morning? I feel like Bond is all for getting out to check the field as early as possible. And then Baron Samedi tells them it's going to be a beauuuuutiful day when they're on the way which suggests it's early. Maybe it's a case of the studio lighting being more appropriate to the time of the day than the location filming?

    I always find it funny how half-hearted that helicopter attack is: they shoot a bit, Bond and Solitare run under cover, and that's it :)
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    mtm wrote: »
    peter wrote: »
    After Bond sleeps with Solitaire-- the second time (no sense in leaving half-cocked)-- they head into the poppy fields during the day... yet Kananga, who is giving his orders to stop them, is clearly shot at night (look at the windows behind him).

    Is it supposed to be very early in the morning? I feel like Bond is all for getting out to check the field as early as possible. And then Baron Samedi tells them it's going to be a beauuuuutiful day when they're on the way which suggests it's early. Maybe it's a case of the studio lighting being more appropriate to the time of the day than the location filming?

    I always find it funny how half-hearted that helicopter attack is: they shoot a bit, Bond and Solitare run under cover, and that's it :)

    Yeah, it really does seem to have some budget limitations. Why not have that helicopter go after the bus too if you have it at your disposal?
  • LeonardPineLeonardPine The Bar on the Beach
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    Not sure if this is the correct board for this, but the other day i saw a deleted scene from TWINE i'd never seen before. It takes place in Q's lab and features a technician using electricity to stun a colleague.

    It's so godawful i did wonder how it even got to the filming stage. It's like something out of a 'Carry On' film....
  • echoecho 007 in New York
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    TWINE, or at least Dana Stevens, is the writer who has least understood the essence of a Bond film. Until, maybe, SP's John "00 programme" Logan.
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    More paintings: The same paintings can be seen in Bond's hotel room in OHMSS, and Kananga's offices in LALD.
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  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,956
    Not sure if this is the correct board for this, but the other day i saw a deleted scene from TWINE i'd never seen before. It takes place in Q's lab and features a technician using electricity to stun a colleague.

    It's so godawful i did wonder how it even got to the filming stage. It's like something out of a 'Carry On' film....

    Yes I know what you mean. I do wonder if perhaps a lot of the gags look similarly bad before proper editing... but perhaps this one could never be saved so they ditched it! :)

    It does appear to be absolute garbage though. And not cheap either!
    More paintings: The same paintings can be seen in Bond's hotel room in OHMSS, and Kananga's offices in LALD.
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    Amazing! :)
  • Posts: 17,281
    mtm wrote: »
    More paintings: The same paintings can be seen in Bond's hotel room in OHMSS, and Kananga's offices in LALD.
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    Amazing! :)

    I suspect the paintings might have featured in more films too, but can't be sure until I watch them again!
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    Took another screenshot from The Saint episode I watched the other day (The Loaded Tourist), as there's a drawer cabinet (?) in the background in one of the scenes I found familiar. I can't be completely sure, as the quality of the Youtube video isn't particularly good – but isn't that the same drawer cabinet we see in Dr. No's lair?
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  • ThunderfingerThunderfinger Das Boot Hill
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    Yor right.
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