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I have tried to be as clear as I can be. My point is be skeptical and question (that is why I used Powell as an example - many in the US and the world took his comments at face value because he in particular was a credible man up to that point unlike Cheney/Rumsfled/Bush/Rice - some may not have believed him, but many in fact did). There is nothing wrong with that. I am suggesting that you not take what you are told at face value. Listen to it and then be skeptical. Don't be naive and don't assume that what you are being told is the truth, although it very well may be, don't make that assumption off the bat just because it affirms your preconceived view of the world and because it is most obvious (I am not referring to you personally, but certainly the media). That is not being paranoid. That is being careful. Irrefutable evidence is not possible because we are not in court. So skepticism & questioning is a good thing. Not paranoia. There is a difference.
France has engaged in Libya, may do in Syria & has done so in Mali. In all cases, the target is people of Islamic faith and there is collateral damage. I think it's safe to say that asymmetrical retributions and reprisals are likely, as has been promised.. That is common sense and is to be expected once one engages militarily elsewhere. This instance is about CH and a cartoon. The next one may not be. The question is what does the government do now to limit freedoms as a result of an attack spurred by a cartoon of all things.
To be clear, I have not suggested that Hollande is behind anything. The media in France or the right wing may have suggested this, as noted by @Suivez_ce_parachute, but I certainly have not. The most I have suggested is that he may be capitalizing on it. That is not paranoid speculation. He'd be a fool not to capitalize on it. He was in big trouble politically before this happened.
This has nothing to do with right wing/left wing simplistic distinctions.
Please read my statements before putting words in my mouth.
They had to delay week two of the lashes as the wounds had not healed from week one. Barbaric treatment from a barbaric country with a barbaric idea of freedom and justice. But we deal with them as if they are old palls. This is the problem with our nations relationship with Islam, we send out very mixed messages.
The House of Saud is the 800 pound gorilla in the room. As long as they have the oil, US presidents will continue to bow before them (literally in the case of Barack Obama).
@bondjames makes a perfectly valid point about the media - most of what we're told is bull****. Some of that is deliberate lies but also a lot of the misinformation in the media is because journalists just get stuff wrong - a lot. They report heresay as fact, don't do enough actual investigating and are often simply not qualified to talk about the subject. So much of what we get in the media is TV presenters speaking to other TV presenters, regurgitating inane observations that lack insight or understanding. Newspapers sell comment and opinion, as its a lot cheaper than investigative reporting. The consequence is that if you're in power and doing something bad, chances are you'll get away with it.
As @bondjames says, we need to be sceptical about everything the media tells us. I'm not saying that because I believe in conspiracies, but because most journalists are not very good.
As I get older and actually have more expert knowledge on my area of work, the more I realise that when the media talk about it they don't really understand it. Then I realise that this must be the case in relation to everything they report on. They skim the surface, make sweeping generalisations and never actually help people really understand what's going on. That's why our leaders get away with being such total muppets.
And you get an A+ for pointing that out.
As mentioned, just don't pass a Patriot Act and don't let your politicians manipulate you. The world is watching.
I wish we'd start referring to these people more as 'criminals' and 'murderers'.
In Northern Ireland, what the IRA wanted was a 'war' with Britain. The UK government partially gave them what they wanted, but it never quite escalated into an all out conflict. Also, even though the Irish government (and the US government for that matter) were totally complicit in funding and supporting the IRA, the British government never allowed the IRA to assume that legitemacy by turning it into a wider 'British verus Irish' war. Lucky, since the mainland UK is home to millions of people of Irish descent.
The world needs to learn similar lessons now.
Crazy to think that into the 21st century the White House was hosting IRA fundraisers - essentially giving money to terrorists so that they could kill British people. Ah, the 'special relationship'. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Well, you already wrote that the French were "in fear". So I don't think you're really watching us...
Instead of fantasies of what you think will happen next according to your theories, why not focusing in trying to understand why, today, Sky News had to cut a French journalist who wanted to show the cover of the French newspaper she works for ?
With predictions about the future (and moreover, about the "hidden truth" of the future), no one can contradict you, so you always feel you're right. Actual facts (and not "hidden facts") are more interesting to discuss.
Look, I'm not saying I'm right. In fact I hope I'm not. Why are you wasting your time trying to contradict me. Just be viligent and don't believe/buy everything you are told blindly. Or do so if you want, that's your business.
Well put @Getafix. I agree completely.
Yes, it helps that France isn't pervaded by religious nutjobs a la the US.
Agreed and happy to hear this @Ludovico.
Me I don't know how to solve the terrorist issue, given I think it's a very irrationnal issue, but I know when I'm being told psychobabble. And well, all the "economics explain everything in the world" is what teenagers were saying in the 80s, so to my ears it sounds very, very dated (I was a teenager in the 80s).
Well, you can tell me many times that I live in a country under fear full of angry people, I won't believe you, that's for sure :) On the other hand, I've just seen a UK journalist very afraid of a French journalist trying to show a drawing...
And about accepting everything blindly, I often found that those who criticize journalists and talk a lot about "hidden truth" are actually the most gullible of the lot : they don't trust journalists, but anything "explaining" why the journalists are wong easily becomes some gospel for them.
the saudis are responsible for all this evil. they spread their insane version of islam around the world.
That is sickening.
Still, as long as they keep on buying our weapons...
Quite a day for our country to show how freedom matters little in compared to the religious big guns
What Churchill and King Whotsit? Pull the other one.
Flags are lowered to half staff ( flag staff) Half mast only applies to ships and naval installations.
Lazy media have been getting this wrong for years, so it falls into the common vernacular.
If you ever hear a broadcaster actually correctly say half staff, sit up. You know this one is at least paying attention and making an effort.
He/she is not only about their time in the makeup room and wardrobe.
Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson has condemned the lowering of flags on public buildings as a mark of respect for the Saudi king.
Ms Davidson tweeted that it was "a steaming pile of nonsense".
Downing Street and other Whitehall departments were among those to put Union Flags at half mast after the death of 90-year-old King Abdullah.
In a second tweet, Ms Davidson said it was a "stupid act on its own and a stupid precedent to set".
I love the imagery of a steaming pile as it implies "sh*t without mentioning it.
Surely we have to respect the nation that funds these things indirectly. ;)
Right now they are helping Europe out of its economic funk by keeping the oil prices down and supporting the petrodollar from crashing under its own weight.
yet you still get it wrong :)) [/quote]
Does this excitable, rushed, lack of concern for accuracy, impact the veracity of some of your other posts? hmmm
Give those door knocking Tories heck ! Hold them to their lofty standards! Bravo! yes the Backhand "help" from the OPEC nations, does qualify as silver lining in cloud.
Reduced oil prices is a huge boon to the rest of the economy.
Alas the OPECers I fear, have only flooded the market with excess supply in order to drive down the profitability of Western producers, whom they don't want to compete with.
I have no sympathy for our western producers though. In a market economy, that's the way the supply-and-demand equation is played. Profits are always subject to changing market conditions.
I'll enjoy less expensive fuel while it lasts. Notice I didn't say cheap.