James Bond on Blu-ray/4K

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  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Why is the best film of the series (CR) so chopped down? Don't get me wrong, this is great, and I love seeing EON's effort in making this collection special, but come on. I would love to see deleted CR scenes like Bond and Vesper in the water and the same for QoS which got even further short-sided. I am interested to listen to the DAD commentary, so I'll have to suffer through that film again, and why does TND have over 9 hours of content?! Of all the films, I've got no idea. Ah well, I am excited though. And seeing a great variety of commentaries are cool, especially seeing ones with just Roger, which will be cool to listen too. He definitely has the dedication to do solo commentaries, and I respect him for that. Hopefully Sean and Dan have some commentaries that they were apart of, because I haven't heard one involving either yet.

    I knew there was another deleted scene in CR that we haven't seen anywhere else. I have the CR Collector's Edition on blu-ray, and that has a few really nice deleted scenes on it...but almost everything else on the disc really isn't in the Bond 50 set. And where is the alternate ending from QoS, or any deleted scenes from it, for that matter? I'm sure QoS had some type of deleted scenes.

    I just think I'll be taking a pass on this box set and purchasing the individual blu-rays. Doesn't really warrant a $200 purchase.
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    I have the three disc CR DVD so I'll be fine without the special features on that.

    But come on! No new features for QOS? I remember Forster saying how he recorded a commentary only a few months after the film was released. And I still really want to see the alternate ending! Not sure about the logic in this...
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    bondbat007 wrote:
    I have the three disc CR DVD so I'll be fine without the special features on that.

    But come on! No new features for QOS? I remember Forster saying how he recorded a commentary only a few months after the film was released. And I still really want to see the alternate ending! Not sure about the logic in this...

    Honestly, I don't see that alternate ending to QoS hitting the light of day. Your best bet is to watch the ending to QoS, the video game version.
  • I can agree with that. Seriously, Why isn't MGM/Fox releasing Casino Royale Collector's Edtion and the unreleased Quantum Of Solace Definitive Edtion as part of the Bond 50 box set? I know that Bond 50 was supposed to be a "monumental golden anniversary"
    box set, but it's not Monumental when studios DOESN'T put all of the features into one set, now we got three movies that doesn't have all of the features (Die Another Day still lacks some special features that was originated on the 2-disc Special Edition DVD from 2003). If it's gonna be a definitive box set, then MAKE IT a Definitive Box Set, and don't put skimping amount of extras for certain films in the set when the others aren't. It's kind've like doing a Special Edition set where every film has special features except for including the 1997/98 editions of GoldenEye and Tomorrow Never Dies, albeit being repackaged and has a trailer as an extra.
  • I meant: ...or using first editions of certain movies in that collection when all others are ultimate editions!
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
    edited May 2012 Posts: 40,683
    @JamesBond1988, I just don't see the reasoning behind it. And it's nifty that they put an empty spot for Skyfall in there, but a few years down the road, we will have a 25 Film Set, then the 60th Anniversary set, etc. It will never stop, and that's why sets are pointless, unless given absolute reasoning to be purchased. It is a great prospect, just not worth that much money.
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    I'll buy this, be done with it, and then buy every subsequent film on Blu-ray singularly.
  • I know that, but sets are for Definitive stuff, not pointless stuff. It's true, I want to collect all of the Blu-rays, but I rather get them all in definitive editions. I was excited when I heard about the Definitive Edtion of Quantum Of Solace when it was first announced for July of 2010, but that passed, and I hoped that would be released as a part of the 50th Anniversary box set... but It didn't turned out the way it's supposed to be. To be honest, I rather see Collector's Edtion of Casino Royale and QOS:DE in that set than the first releases being re-packaged as part of Bond 50
  • JamesPageJamesPage Administrator, Moderator, Director
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @JamesBond1988, I just don't see the reasoning behind it.

    Check who owns the two movies and who distributes them for home entertainment. Compare to the other 20. There you may find the answers you seek :)
  • 0BradyM0Bondfanatic70BradyM0Bondfanatic7 Quantum Floral Arrangements: "We Have Petals Everywhere"
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    Has the definitive edition of QoS ever been released/marketed/commercialized? I want to see it too!
  • I know who owns it, but MGM/Fox are putting them together with Permission (I presume) from Sony. @0BradyM0Bondfanatic7 to answer your question, no. It was rumoredly announced by Fox (it was said from the Mi6-HQ site) and it was supposed to have a commentary by Marc Forester and deleted scenes (including the original ending as I remembered) but nothing came out it since, and as I said, I thought they would make it for this set. I was wrong.


  • This is the news article that Mi6-HQ put out a few years ago:
    Source: http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?itemid=8548&catid=106&t=qos&s=qos

    As director Marc Forster previously pointed out, the release of "Quantum of Solace" on DVD and Blu-Ray last year was just the first round and fans should expect a double-dip release later.

    UPDATE: Fox updated their listing to redact the 'definitive edition' tag, and have confirmed this is the same Blu-Ray release as occurred in Europe and USA in 2009. This release was not originally made available in Australia. The 'definitive edition' of the movie is now expected around the theatrical release of Bond 23, according to sources.

    That time has now come with news that a 'Definitive Edition' two-disc DVD of Daniel Craig's second outing as James Bond is being scheduled for release on 28th July 2010 in Australia.

    The new souped-up edition will also feature lenticular packaging.

    As with the first release, Fox will distribute the updated title.

    There is no word yet on what the special features will be, but fans should expect cast & crew commentaries (missing from the first release) as well as additional behind-the-scenes content.

    Perhaps the most interesting possibility though, is the inclusion of the original ending of the film that Forster cut for theatrical release. In it, Bond is seen to confront Mr White and the shadowy Guy Haines at a Quantum-owned mansion near London.

    An exclusive still from the cut scene can be found in MI6 Declassified magazine issue #4.

    Stay tuned to MI6 for the latest news on this upcoming DVD release.
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    I think this packaging looks quite nice but i am not impressed that the some of the ultimate edition features wont be brought across and also that we get bad versions of Casino and Quantum. I might have to look into buying the deluxe casino blu-ray.
  • RC7RC7
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    Has the definitive edition of QoS ever been released/marketed/commercialized? I want to see it too!

    What's the 'definitive edition'?

  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @RC7, I could only hope it would be like the Collector's Edition of CR: jam-packed with special features, deleted scenes, and finally, that alternate ending every Bond fan has been wanting to see for the past few years that we can only find at the end of the video game version of QoS. I, too, remember reading about that edition a few years back. Sadly, it looks like it won't see the light of day this year.
  • TheWizardOfIceTheWizardOfIce 'One of the Internet's more toxic individuals'
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    This whole thing is an absolute con. I was going to buy it to have a nice set but I think I might just get the missing blurays I havent got instead.

    Although has it been announced anywhere that all the films will be available individually? It may be the only way to get OHMSS and TLD will be to buy this set in which case I think I'll draw the line because then EON are just taking the piss out of me.

    I was all ready with a fistful of cash to buy this set if they had gone to the effort of making it unmissable but as it is I'm thinking 'meh'. Just goes to show the shocking lack of foresight in the marketing department as if you cant bring out a product that someone like me wants who has bought the films on VHS, VHS widescreen, DVD special edition and ultimate edition how are you going to attract the casual fans money?

    Have a look at the Star Wars bluray box set for how to do it properly. Say what you like about Lucas but he doesnt scrimp when it comes to extras and special features. 3 extra discs of stuff - for a series only 6 films long. At least he gives the fans an incentive to go out and buy what they already own time and time again. EON are just giving us a paltry 2 hours of new extras, a nice box and a worse version of CR than whats already out there.

    And the definitive version of QOS seems to have disappeared without trace and is unlikely to be seen now until the discs are reissued again in say about 4 or 5 years time.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    The individual copies of the films have to be available; there's no way that the only way you can own them is by purchasing the $200 edition. I have to own at least GE on blu-ray.
  • RC7RC7
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    Creasy47 wrote:
    @RC7 that alternate ending every Bond fan has been wanting to see for the past few years that we can only find at the end of the video game version of QoS

    Not going to happen. At least not until Craig has long gone, if at all.
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    @RC7, that's what I've been saying. I doubt we'll see it for a long time, if ever. Hence, the best thing you can do is watch the ending of the video game version of QoS.
  • Posts: 406
    I was considering buying the set as it was 50th anniversary, but whats the point spending all that money on a set with less special features than I already have and in a year or twos time they'll be released separately again probably
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
    edited May 2012 Posts: 13,353
    The second edition of Casino Royale was announced in July 2008 so we may still get the new Quantum Of Solace release, I haven't given up hope, not yet anyway.

    As for this packaging, it's average. A big annoyance Die Another Day doesn't have it's other features added back in. Why were they taken out for the UE in the first place?

    My bet is EON will put something better out after Bond 25, the 'silver' film, or the 60th anniversary. I'll just hang on until then to see what awaits us.
  • Posts: 76
    Im really annoyed about this anouncment, I bought the whole set because I thought wed get an updating of all my special edition dvds but they have only taken some of them out. Can you get a refund on a pre order?
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    MrDJWest wrote:
    Im really annoyed about this anouncment, I bought the whole set because I thought wed get an updating of all my special edition dvds but they have only taken some of them out. Can you get a refund on a pre order?

    Pretty big purchase for something you weren't sure about. I'm not sure about the pre-order cancellation, but be sure next time.
  • Samuel001Samuel001 Moderator
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    MrDJWest wrote:
    Im really annoyed about this anouncment, I bought the whole set because I thought wed get an updating of all my special edition dvds but they have only taken some of them out. Can you get a refund on a pre order?

    There are no features missing from the Special Edition DVDs, only some from Die Another Day that were taken out for the Ultimate Editions.
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    A little disappointed there aren't new 50th covers. Instead just books. Its efficient, but for 200 dollars I don't want efficient, I want art!
  • Posts: 267
    I was hoping for a couple of things. The packaging looks awesome, but I really wanted to see the original theatrical posters for each films as the covers for each individual film box. Thought it would've been nice to have them all together for the 50th anniversary.

    I also just wanted to see more deleted scenes. We've all heard rumors of things like the OHMSS roof-top chase that may or may not have been lost long, long ago, but its simple things like including the deleted scenes from CR and QoS. Even in the big, pretty awesome deluxe version of CR they included a decent amount of deleted scenes, but still left out a few that were even shown in the trailers.
  • JamesPageJamesPage Administrator, Moderator, Director
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    Stay tuned folks - the 'special features' list released the other day is not complete. More to come... (may just be the audio commentary details and such)
  • marketto007marketto007 Brazil
    edited May 2012 Posts: 3,277
    Hmmm...good to know, thanks JP. But I think the majority here would love to see a complete edition of QOS, with the infamous deleted scene.

    xxx
  • Creasy47Creasy47 In Cuba with Natalya.Moderator
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    Hmmm...good to know, thanks JP. But I think the majority here would love to see a complete edition of QOS, with the infamous deleted scene.

    xxx

    You have that right. With that, I may muster up the money to buy the complete set. Get all the others, get the definitive edition, and be happy.
  • gt007gt007 Station G
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    @marketto007, you're absolutely right. Unfortunately, I'm afraid it's not going to happen right now.
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