BOND POLLS 2015: BEST SPECTRE-Film POLL (Think Like A SPECTRE-Operative, DEADLINE OCTOBER 18TH)

edited September 2015 in Bond Movies Posts: 11,119
Let's do this poll a bit differently >:). Try to put yourself in the shoes of a SPECTRE-operative. Just......try to demolish all Bond-fandom in your thought. Loathe all the Bond-geeks in this forum. Think of how you would use that poisonous shoe on someone who always belittled our beloved brotherhood. And instead, cherish and value something that is much much more satisfactory: S.P.E.C.T.R.E. 8-X!

It's time to vote in this new poll dear members of SPECTRE. What do you think was the best SPECTRE-film? In which Bond film got the plan from our No# 1 operative your most respect? And what ideas do you have to make SPECTRE even more resourceful, more sinister, more......effective on the whole, while you are ranking below movies? Therefore, please vote for below 7 movies and hand in your TOP 4 of Best SPECTRE-films.
--> 1 POINTS: to your 4th placed SPECTRE-film
--> 2 POINTS: to your 3rd placed SPECTRE-film
--> 3 POINTS: to your runner-up SPECTRE-film
--> 5 POINTS: to your SPECTRE-film that must win, obviously because it contained the most ambitious SPECTRE-project ever ;-)

01. SPECTRE in "Doctor No" (1962)
02. SPECTRE in "From Russia With Love" (1963)
03. SPECTRE in "Thunderball" (1965)
04. SPECTRE in "You Only Live Twice" (1967)
05. SPECTRE in "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" (1969)
06. SPECTRE in "Diamonds Are Forever" (1971)
07. SPECTRE in "Never Say Never Again" (1983)

But I remind you all: SPECTRE is a dedicated fraternity whose strength lies in the absolute integrity of its members. And if the culprit -a leak to anyone outside our brotherhood, or any other act of embezzlement- becomes known to us, we WILL decide on an appropriate action:
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Do not take this warning lightly >:).
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  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited December 2014 Posts: 5,080
    Before I post my rankings, I don't believe that FYEO should be included. SPECTRE do not feature in this film- only "Blofeld" whose identity is not explicitly stated.
  • DarthDimiDarthDimi Behind you!Moderator
    Posts: 20,656
    Good idea, @Gustav_Graves! :-)

    If we're voting plans, my choices are:

    5 points: FRWL - best constructed, most chance of success
    3 points: DN - simple sabotage, why not? I like it!
    2 points: TB - bit outrageous but pretty cool
    1 point: OHMSS - yeah, biological war fare does frighten me

  • Before I post my rankings, I don't believe that FYEO should be included. SPECTRE do not feature in this film- only "Blofeld" whose identity is not explicitly stated.

    I decided to put the film in the poll, as then there are slightly more options. Also, the reference is so obvious Blofeld/SPECTRE. Moreover, "Blofeld"s plan could have worked. If 007 did not discover in time how to unwire the RC-wires, then we had a dead Bond no ;-)?

  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    Before I post my rankings, I don't believe that FYEO should be included. SPECTRE do not feature in this film- only "Blofeld" whose identity is not explicitly stated.

    I decided to put the film in the poll, as then there are slightly more options. Also, the reference is so obvious Blofeld/SPECTRE. Moreover, "Blofeld"s plan could have worked. If 007 did not discover in time how to unwire the RC-wires, then we had a dead Bond no ;-)?

    I would have thought that seven films is sufficient. I just don't think that including FYEO purely for the fact that there's a chap who could be Blofeld in its PTS. I thought the point of the scene is meant to show that SPECTRE is no more, and he's turned slightly mad and wishes to settle an old feud with his nemesis.
  • You are right. Hereby deleted. Continue voting ;-).
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    edited December 2014 Posts: 5,080
    I didn't mean to be a party pooper, but everything seems to be neat and trim now!

    Here's mine:

    5 points for: Thunderball- Not the best film by far, but it is the film where I think SPECTRE were at their best. The Paris HQ scene is fantastic, and Ken Adam's set is delightful. The plot, although unfairly tainted by future Bond spoofs (this film did it first!), is grandiose, but not to the extent where it becomes OTT. It's a definitive Bond villain plot. TB is where SPECTRE are their most threatening (what with dispensing of insolent operatives!).

    3 points for: From Russia With Love- another classic SPECTRE appearance.

    2 points for: On Her Majesty's Secret Service- up there with TB and FRWL, but I feel that the film focuses more on Blofeld.

    1 point for: You Only Live Twice- A solid appearance. SPECTRE's most OTT scheme.
  • Thanks for the vote @DarthDimi & @MayDayDiVicenzo ;-)
  • Keep voting please :-)
  • PropertyOfALadyPropertyOfALady Colders Federation CEO
    Posts: 3,648
    5 points- OHMSS: Biological warfare would have massive impacts on society while putting fear into the hearts of everyone.

    3 points- FRWL: Rosa Klebb's poison tipped shoe is ingenious, and it's all around a slick plan, too!

    2 points- DN: The original world domination plot.

    1 point- TB: How would one go about hollowing out a volcano and building a station in it?
  • SarkSark Guangdong, PRC
    Posts: 1,138
    5 points for DAF-why? Easy-bodycount. Bear in mind that we...err, SPECTRE, successfully blew up nuclear weapons bases in China and the US, as well as a Soviet nuclear submarine. The loss of life had to have been in the low thousands minimum. So w...they may have failed, but that's a feather in our cap.

    4 points for YOLT-SPECTRE brought the world to the brink of nuclear war, a feat that others only thought possible by US-Soviet oneupmanship. Or a radar glitch.

    3 points for DN-SPECTRE successfully toppled an unknown number of American rockets as well as killing Quarrell, Honey's father and Strangways. That's some measure of success.

    2 points TB: a fiendish plan, cunning in its simplicity. And SPECTRE demonstrated on three different occasions the cost of betrayal (or trying to renegotiate agreed-upon terms, which is almost the same thing).

    1 point FRWL-A clever plan, but I'm not entirely sure why Rosa Klebb, head of SMERSH, wouldn't be capable of bringing SPECTRE a Lector herself.
  • Thanks for the votes so far :-). Can you please continue voting?
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 4,622
    Best Spectre film. YOLT. This is maxium Spectre!

    Runner-up Thunderball. A plot of global scale.

    3rd.Diamonds Are Forever. Again Blofeld is very much on his game, threatening massive global destruction.

    4. Dr No. The good Doctor had a great set-up until 007 interfered.
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,403
    5 points: From Russia With Love - so cunning you can brush your teeth with it
    3 points: On Her Majesty's Secret Service
    2 points: Thunderball
    1 point: You Only Live Twice - daft but ingenious!

  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    Posts: 1,726
    Is it me or are Gustav's polls getting more and more complicated each week? :>
  • AceHole wrote: »
    Is it me or are Gustav's polls getting more and more complicated each week? :>

    Tell me @AceHole ;-). Why is it complicated ;-)
  • There's no better trailer for SPECTRE, than this one. Made shortly after the title reveal last week ;-):
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited December 2014 Posts: 1,726
    AceHole wrote: »
    Is it me or are Gustav's polls getting more and more complicated each week? :>

    Tell me @AceHole ;-). Why is it complicated ;-)

    Just a bit of fun Gustav ;)
    It's not really, strictly speaking, but at first glance is does seem to be :D
  • Posts: 12,349
    There's no better trailer for SPECTRE, than this one. Made shortly after the title reveal last week ;-):

    Loved that! Always love how Donald Pleasance introduces himself, classic! ^:)^
  • keep voting guys ;)
  • royale65royale65 Caustic misanthrope reporting for duty.
    Posts: 4,403
    The above video was kinda awesome.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2014 Posts: 23,883
    5 points: From Russia With Love - the sheer simplicity & audacity of it. Using a beautiful woman to tempt a British secret agent who they have a personal grudge against to bring them a Lector decoding machine. Definitely a scheme worthy of a grand master like Kronsteen. Use your opponent's weakness against him. If only SPECTRE could devise something so delicious in SPECTRE....if only...

    3 points: On Her Majesty's Secret Service - again terribly audacious - Angels of Death indeed. Biological warfare. Even Al Qaeda or Assad couldn't come up with this stuff!

    2 points: Thunderball - blackmailing Western powers - stealing nuclear weapons. Surgical alterations and doubles! A little extravagant and out of this world, but was it ambitious for its day ...

    1 point: You Only Live Twice - Blofeld takes it a little too far here but I admire the scale of his ambition. So good in fact that his tactics were stolen by two future Bond adversaries (Stromberg in TSWLM & Carver in TND). His revelation was, however, terribly underwhelming given the amazing buildup of the faceless, 'stroking' villain in FRWL & TB who just seemed bigger and more menacing than Pleasance. Hoping not to have a similar disappointment in SPECTRE.

    My word, doing this exercise reminds me of how damn good those old Bond movies' plots were. What happened?

    SPECTRE had better be up to scratch. This is Blofeld we are talking about for heaven's sake. Not some two bit ex-Mi6 hacker with a grudge and a mommy complex!
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    royale65 wrote: »
    The above video was kinda awesome.

    Great trailer huh? I loved it. It captures the essence of SPECTRE perfectly, even slightly more sinister with the added music and perfectly edited scenes. The trailer has been features on Slashfilm as well now:
    http://www.slashfilm.com/history-of-spectre/

    Okay, and some more wunderful links! Did you know that quite a few movie websites (the geeky ones and established ones) have now dedicated some time and effort in the history of SPECTRE? I think that's really nice, and was not possible with previous Bond films ;-):

    Time Magazine:
    http://time.com/3618903/spectre-james-bond-movie/#3618903/spectre-james-bond-movie/

    Screencrush:
    http://screencrush.com/spectre-bond-and-blofeld-a-brief-history-of-007s-greatest-adversary/

    Techcentral:
    http://www.techcentral.co.za/new-bond-raises-spectre-of-ian-fleming/53205/

    The Dissolve (includes the wunderful fan trailer):
    http://thedissolve.com/news/4255-get-a-lesson-in-james-bond-history-thanks-to-this-/

    FirstShowing.net (includes the wunderful fan trailer):
    http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/recap-the-movie-history-of-spectre-with-this-classic-007-trailer/

    It's especially nice to read some of the comments that non-Bond-fans make. For instance on that Slashfilm-article:
    "I haven't seen the OLD Bond Movies, just from Goldeneye forward.
    Maybe we will see the rise of Blowfeld/Spectre, how he got his scar.
    "
    Truly funny :-P

    Or from FirstShowing.net:
    "I remember seeing this as a kid for the first time... they just dont make movies like this anymore.."
    Be prepared lady :-D!
  • MayDayDiVicenzoMayDayDiVicenzo Here and there
    Posts: 5,080
    I've only just managed to watch the SPECTRE video. I'm speechless. Great stuff.
  • bondjames wrote: »
    1 point: You Only Live Twice - Blofeld takes it a little too far here but I admire the scale of his ambition. So good in fact that his tactics were stolen by two future Bond adversaries (Stromberg in TSWLM & Carver in TND). His revelation was, however, terribly underwhelming given the amazing buildup of the faceless, 'stroking' villain in FRWL & TB who just seemed bigger and more menacing than Pleasance. Hoping not to have a similar disappointment in SPECTRE.

    Well, even in real world there are connections to this. Albeit very indirectly. But if Russian banks are co-financing ultra-right-wing parties in the European Union. And if these Russian banks are "officially" not linked to Putin's wunderful Orlov-esque agenda, then one could say "The Russians" are trying to destabilize prosperity and democracy in the EU.

    Does that not ring a bell @bondjames :-)?
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
    edited December 2014 Posts: 23,883
    bondjames wrote: »
    1 point: You Only Live Twice - Blofeld takes it a little too far here but I admire the scale of his ambition. So good in fact that his tactics were stolen by two future Bond adversaries (Stromberg in TSWLM & Carver in TND). His revelation was, however, terribly underwhelming given the amazing buildup of the faceless, 'stroking' villain in FRWL & TB who just seemed bigger and more menacing than Pleasance. Hoping not to have a similar disappointment in SPECTRE.

    Well, even in real world there are connections to this. Albeit very indirectly. But if Russian banks are co-financing ultra-right-wing parties in the European Union. And if these Russian banks are "officially" not linked to Putin's wunderful Orlov-esque agenda, then one could say "The Russians" are trying to destabilize prosperity and democracy in the EU.

    Does that not ring a bell @bondjames :-)?

    You're right @Gustav_Graves.

    The same thing is in fact going on today in geopolitics. Deception is the name of the game at the highest levels of government, with the average man in the street the pawn, and a complicit media. Only this time the war is 'financial' in nature. Currency manipulation, sanctions (or tariffs as they used to call it), commodity price manipulation etc. It's also 'technological' (phone tapping, Snowden etc.). There are definitely hidden agendas, and I'll contend that it goes both ways....Putin is definitely a player in this game of deception, but so is Obama (or rather, his western backed financiers & large multinational corporates along with Saudi oilmen - all of whom influence western policy).

    The real villains today are multinational corporates. Perfect hiding place for Blofeld.
  • bondjames wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    1 point: You Only Live Twice - Blofeld takes it a little too far here but I admire the scale of his ambition. So good in fact that his tactics were stolen by two future Bond adversaries (Stromberg in TSWLM & Carver in TND). His revelation was, however, terribly underwhelming given the amazing buildup of the faceless, 'stroking' villain in FRWL & TB who just seemed bigger and more menacing than Pleasance. Hoping not to have a similar disappointment in SPECTRE.

    Well, even in real world there are connections to this. Albeit very indirectly. But if Russian banks are co-financing ultra-right-wing parties in the European Union. And if these Russian banks are "officially" not linked to Putin's wunderful Orlov-esque agenda, then one could say "The Russians" are trying to destabilize prosperity and democracy in the EU.

    Does that not ring a bell @bondjames :-)?

    You're right @Gustav_Graves.

    The same thing is in fact going on today in geopolitics. Deception is the name of the game at the highest levels of government, with the average man in the street the pawn, and a complicit media. Only this time the war is 'financial' in nature. Currency manipulation, sanctions (or tariffs as they used to call it), commodity price manipulation etc. It's also 'technological' (phone tapping, Snowden etc.). There are definitely hidden agendas, and I'll contend that it goes both ways....Putin is definitely a player in this game of deception, but so is Obama (or rather, his western backed financiers & large multinational corporates along with Saudi oilmen - all of whom influence western policy).

    The real villains today are multinational corporates. Perfect hiding place for Blofeld.

    If only Ian Fleming himself lived in today's world....if only he could give his comment now :-)
  • KerimKerim Istanbul Not Constantinople
    edited December 2014 Posts: 2,629
    1. FRWL (5). The introduction of SPECTRE remains the best.
    2. OHMSS (3). SPECTRE is kind of minimalized at this point, but very effective. Telly Savalas was the best of all Blofelds.
    3. TB (2). Only SPECTRE could have come up with this wild of a plan and nearly pull it off.
    4. YOLT (1). I know, I know, hollowed out volcano. But we meet Blofeld.
    5. DN (0). Yeah, SPECTRE is mentioned but, no real representation other than the Doc.
    T6. DAF and NSNA (- 1 kazillion points). Need I explain this?
  • 9 voters so far. Keep voting :-).
  • edited December 2014 Posts: 11,119
    My vote would be:

    01. 5 points - FRWL
    02. 3 points - TB
    03. 2 points - DN
    04. 1 points - OHMSS


    Total score so far after 10 votes:

    01. 33 POINTS - "From Russia With Love"
    02. 27 POINTS - "Thunderball"
    03. 21 POINTS - "On Her Majesty's Secret Service"

    04. 12 POINTS - "You Only Live Twice"
    05. 11 POINTS - "Doctor No"
    06. 07 POINTS - "Diamonds Are Forever"
    07. 00 POINTS - "Never Say Never Again"
  • Keep voting guys :-).
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