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Yeah I think that's a decent point. Is how he looks more important than how he acts? If his looks don't affect his behaviour (i.e he's still great-looking enough to pull all the birds) then does it matter?
That is kind of exactly the opposite meaning that the phrase 'apples and oranges' has though.
Hah - I was going to say it's no use having the classic Bond look but not the chops, but Craig proved that that's not true in reverse, so what do I know?!
Come to think of it, I feel the same about Cavill.
Okay.
As long as Babs is producing these Bond films, regardless of what hopes she's setting up for those wanting a non white Bond, I don't believe it'll happen and if I'm wrong, one thing I'm sure of is it won't start with Bond #7.
Yeah we’ll have to disagree then. I don’t know about Bond 7 (I think it’s more likely than it ever was before, but who knows), but I do think it’s an inevitability, and that it will probably happen with Barbara still at the helm, since they don’t seem to be selling up any time soon.
Yeah that’s the only standard I hold them to when it comes to looks. Good looking enough to be a womaniser and fit enough to convince as an action hero. Other than that I’m not really bothered.
To be honest I’m surprised his appearance is still so important to people, I thought Craig embarassing the DCINB lot would’ve changed that. How he acts is more important to me. And I do try my best to be open minded about that too, I like having different takes on it. But a black or asian actor playing it closely to the books would more closely resemble Fleming’s Bond to me than Roger Moore did, even though they’d look less similar. He did his own thing with it, and it was brilliant. But I can’t say I understand why changing his race is still an uncrossable line when we’ve already had that kind of personality change. Mileage varies I guess, different people see it differently. I just hope that people will give it a chance if/when it does happen.
I agree. I think there's two ways the production can go with that one: 1)they cast a fairly unknown actor, 2)they go fir a better known actor, akin to Roger Moore, to get out of Craig's large shadow. Somehow I think they'll go for the former, because I can't see anyone who has a stature equivalent to Moore when he was cast.
I’m thinking they’ll be relatively unknown too, that seems like the safest bet, but honestly who knows. They’ve been so all over the place in terms of profile that I find that a tough aspect to call personally. I don’t even think an A lister would be out of the question now, providing they were young enough, and talented enough to disappear into it (so more of a Tom Hardy type than a Henry Cavill type, but obviously it won’t be either of them). Craig’s given the role a lot of prestige, and that sort of casting has gotten more common in blockbusters in the past decade or so. Like Ben Affleck as Batman for example, or Benedict Cumberbatch in Marvel. Bond has done that a lot with the villains too lately, cast big names, so would a big name as Bond really be out of the question anymore? I wouldn’t rule it out myself.
Yes, and even then Roger was -shock horror- fair haired!
Please no Madden.
Wasn't Adrian Paul a bit old at the time as well?
I just checked and born in 1959 he would have been the oldest Bond when cast. I don't think that he would have worked, not even for a "normal" transition from Brosnan to him, let alone for a reboot and CR.
Then again, I saw Aidan Turner in And Then There Were None and thought he was great... but I've got to say, his Leonardo da Vinci was not impressive. You can be great in one part and lacking in another. If I was a casting director and had seen Turner in only Leonardo, I don't think I'd give him an audition for Bond.
Thought he did quite well. Direction of the series wasn't all that great however.
I doubt it too.
Aren't we done with sensitive Bond anyway? ;)
I think his real Bond audition though was Gangs of London. He‘s brilliant in that show, a really dark and charismatic screen presence, and he pulled the physical stuff off well. My money would still be on a POC getting it this time, but who knows, maybe he’s on the radar. Looking forward to seeing how he does as the new Harry Palmer.
I'm certainly looking forward to Ipcress though.
Cole was great in GoL but I didn't find anything particularly Bondish about him. Sope who plays Elliot is actually a friend of mine and even though I'm vehemently against a black Bond, he'd make a great and much better Bond. Gareth Evans was brilliant with this and he's the only director that I believe who could make a Bond film that tops Casino Royale.
Thought he was good in Peaky Blinders but I don't see him as Bond.
Yes, Sope Disiru is pretty Bond-like and has been mentioned in this thread before. Good looking chap too.
I did consider suggesting him as I wrote that, but to be honest I assumed he was older than he is, and I’ve been trying to think of young suggestions. But it turns out he’s actually younger than Cole is. Yeah, he could be very good. Rugged good looks, great in the fight scenes. And he’s the right age. Have we finally found a 30 year old who fans on here wouldn’t call too baby faced?
Interesting that he’s a mate of yours too @Jimjambond. Don’t suppose you could give us any teasers for the next season? ;) Agree on Evans too, I think he could be a great choice for a down and dirty, back to basics sort of reboot.
And while I wouldn’t call Cole Bond esque in Gangs of London, he’d be an unconventional choice, but I do think he had a dark and captivating presence about him in that show, which could be interesting to channel for Bond. Don’t think Palmer would rule him out either, seeing as it’s just an ITV adaptation. But yeah, not sure how likely he is to get it. I reckon he could pull it off though.
Before someone jumps in with "he's just an overgrown stuntman", Adkins is still my #1 for Bond, even though I know in my heart of hearts it is never going to happen.