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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    3 performers come to mind who’s paths strongly appear to resemble the one being taken by Styles; Will Smith, Justin Timberlake and Mark Wahlberg all these began as quintessential teen pop stars, rappers, TV actors and underwear models Each eventually moved into acting ; all have become extremely solid actors . Timberlake has continued his musical career, proving that you don’t have to choose one career or another. What a shame it would have been if they were not given a chance because of their pop origins.
    So it is possible for someone to give a great performance in a film like “Social Network “ and still do this .


  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    talos7 wrote: »
    3 performers come to mind who’s paths strongly appear to resemble the one being taken by Styles; Will Smith, Justin Timberlake and Mark Wahlberg all these began as quintessential teen pop stars, rappers, TV actors and underwear models Each eventually moved into acting ; all have become extremely solid actors . Timberlake has continued his musical career, proving that you don’t have to choose one career or another. What a shame it would have been if they were not given a chance because of their pop origins.
    So it is possible for someone to give a great performance in a film like “Social Network “ and still do this .


    Good point. He is great in The Social Network, too - one of the best films of the last twenty years.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    All good examples and actors. But I was thinking British examples as we are talking about casting a new Bond?

    These guys also aren’t tarnished by association with trash reality TV.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    @suavejmf, I can't think of any British examples beyond Styles appearing in a Nolan film, though that likely has as much to do with my lack of interest in modern British pop music than anything else.

    As far as debating the idea that popstars/musicians couldn't be viable Hollywood actors in general, I don't think that stigma exists anymore. It may have a couple of decades ago but I think we're long past it. I guess the most impactful, recent transition would be Lady Gaga in A Star Is Born - can't believe I forgot that one.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    How about Matthew Goode?

    I quite like Mathew Goode, but he's 42 years old, which is a shame because he's ageing a bit and it actually suits him.
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    Well, that video made me say "no" very quickly.

    He looks the part, but those clips are too cheesey.

    Those eyes are a bit on the crazy side, worse than Dornan's, I think.

    Sir Roger was 46 in LALD.

    But he was Sir Roger B-)
    Jordo007 wrote: »
    A few people were talking in work today about Cavill being perfect for Bond, and I don't know what it is I just don't understand it. Sure he is a handsome man, who has the right physicality for the role but no offence the guy is a huge step down from Craig as an actor and he has close to nothing in screen presence. I think it would be a huge step down for the series. He would be an okay cinematic Bond (in the style of Brosnan or even Sir Roger) but he wouldn't bring the character to life on screen, with the rich layers of contradictions and believability that say Connery, Dalton and Craig have all brought to the role. Which I think as the series has evolved since Casino the character deserves

    I mean I've sort of resigned myself to the fact that whoever is chosen next will be a bit of a step down from Craig (at least for me) but surely they have to look further than the obvious easy choice?

    I think we shouldn't look at it as step down but in a different direction. It has always been like that,

    Sean-Roger-Pierce (Cinematic bond)

    George-Timothy- Daniel (Book Bond).

    Aidan Turner as Cinematic Bond?

    Yup.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    All good examples and actors. But I was thinking British examples as we are talking about casting a new Bond?

    These guys also aren’t tarnished by association with trash reality TV.

    Well yes this topic is specifically about casting Bond, but the subject of entertainers becoming actors applies no matter what their nation of origin or the role.
    As far as reality TV, that is a relatively new, within the past 20 years, format. I don’t see a reason to exclude someone who got their start there. But, we all have our personal preferences.

  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    Resurrection wrote: »
    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.

    Most actors rarely become decent Hollywood actors, it must be noted.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.

    Most actors rarely become decent Hollywood actors, it must be noted.
    Absolutely, most fail or are mediocre.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.

    Most actors rarely become decent Hollywood actors, it must be noted.
    Absolutely, most fail or are mediocre.

    Exactly. Or appear on ‘kitchen sink’ low brow soap operas like Coronation Street or Hollyoaks.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    All good examples and actors. But I was thinking British examples as we are talking about casting a new Bond?

    These guys also aren’t tarnished by association with trash reality TV.

    I don’t see a reason to exclude someone who got their start there. But, we all have our personal preferences.

    I agree with you here. My point is that trash reality TV isn’t usually a great platform for discovering talent. Quite the opposite usually. But I suppose an exception is always possible.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    All good examples and actors. But I was thinking British examples as we are talking about casting a new Bond?

    These guys also aren’t tarnished by association with trash reality TV.

    Sure, but Daniel Craig was in Heartbeat, y'know- you can't always judge someone by where they've come from. Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited October 2020 Posts: 5,131
    mtm wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    All good examples and actors. But I was thinking British examples as we are talking about casting a new Bond?

    These guys also aren’t tarnished by association with trash reality TV.

    Sure, but Daniel Craig was in Heartbeat, y'know- you can't always judge someone by where they've come from. Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar.

    Was he?! Ha ha. And our friends in the north! I quite like Heartbeat, I’ll admit that, as it’s retro and of course.....set in Yorkshire.

    Jennifer Hudson is a fairly bland actress/ celebrity or whatever IMO. Totally forgettable. I’ll have to google that Oscar as I’m very surprised! I assume she came from a reality show though......so good point.

    You are right though, I have slightly pre judged, old fashioned and snobbish attitude to ‘reality tv stars.’ Which is probably wrong.

    But for me, reality television is the lowest form of entertainment. It lauds crass behaviour, glorifies abuse, elevates shallow personalities and promotes dysfunctional relationships.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Our Friends in the North was great though, that's hardly humble beginnings.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    Well, it's been settled.

    According to Wikipedia Aidan Turner is indeed slated to be Bond in 2025. On the right hand box Turner is listed after Craig.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrayal_of_James_Bond_in_film
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    mtm wrote: »
    Our Friends in the North was great though, that's hardly humble beginnings.

    Never seen it. But heard good things. I would watch it. I like quality drama with good acting certainly.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Well, it's been settled.

    According to Wikipedia Aidan Turner is indeed slated to be Bond in 2025. On the right hand box Turner is listed after Craig.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrayal_of_James_Bond_in_film

    Shows how wiki is open to incorrect edits!! Ha ha ha.

  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    Well, it's been settled.

    According to Wikipedia Aidan Turner is indeed slated to be Bond in 2025. On the right hand box Turner is listed after Craig.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portrayal_of_James_Bond_in_film

    Shows how wiki is open to incorrect edits!! Ha ha ha.

    I thought it was pretty funny. I guess anyone can go in and make up some bulls**t on Wikipedia. LOL.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    One last example of humble beginnings, I was watching a repeat of the old show Unsolved Mysteries, hosted by Robert Stack. and was surprised to see future OSCAR winner Matthew McConaughey playing a character in a reenactment of a true crime.

    Unsolved Mysteries is not exactly highbrow, but I admit a guilty pleasure.
    Someone would have had to be a Nostradamus to see McConaughey as a future Academy Award winner bast on this performance.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.menshealth.com/entertainment/amp33279046/matthew-mcconaughey-unsolved-mysteries/
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    One last example of humble beginnings, I was watching a repeat of the old show Unsolved Mysteries, hosted by Robert Stack. and was surprised to see future OSCAR winner Matthew McConaughey playing a character in a reenactment of a true crime.

    Unsolved Mysteries is not exactly highbrow, but I admit a guilty pleasure.
    Someone would have had to be a Nostradamus to see McConaughey as a future Academy Award winner bast on this performance.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.menshealth.com/entertainment/amp33279046/matthew-mcconaughey-unsolved-mysteries/

    I do rate McConaughey. Great actor.

    I like true crime dramas. I was mainly having a pop at X Factor, love island, TOWIE and other such rubbish.
  • ResurrectionResurrection Kolkata, India
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    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.

    Most actors rarely become decent Hollywood actors, it must be noted.

    Agreed but compare to popstars, they are far more decent.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited October 2020 Posts: 14,935
    talos7 wrote: »
    One last example of humble beginnings, I was watching a repeat of the old show Unsolved Mysteries, hosted by Robert Stack. and was surprised to see future OSCAR winner Matthew McConaughey playing a character in a reenactment of a true crime.

    Unsolved Mysteries is not exactly highbrow, but I admit a guilty pleasure.
    Someone would have had to be a Nostradamus to see McConaughey as a future Academy Award winner bast on this performance.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.menshealth.com/entertainment/amp33279046/matthew-mcconaughey-unsolved-mysteries/

    Ha! That's great.
    I mean, not for the guy he was playing obviously.
    Resurrection wrote: »
    CraigMooreOHMSS wrote: »
    Resurrection wrote: »
    Problem is popstars rarely become decent Hollywood actors in general, these actor's are just exceptions amongst majority, imo.

    Most actors rarely become decent Hollywood actors, it must be noted.

    Agreed but compare to popstars, they are far more decent.

    Don't forget a lot of popstars come from drama schools just like a lot of famous actors do. Billie Piper is a good example; she's a brilliant actor but started out as a pop singer.
  • ToTheRightToTheRight
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    That was great! I always thought Matthew would be an ideal Felix Leiter.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    The one quality that successful pop stars , and I’ll include Frank Sinatra, a pop star of his era, often have in spades is charisma. That is something that cannot be manufactured, taught or coached.

    Of the Bond’s I think Sean had the most and in part accounts for him being generally thought of as the best.
  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    I think Sean and Roger are the Bond giant's.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Sean and Roger are the Bond giant's.
    Absolutely, and every actor to portray Bond had/has great qualities; but, if you were able to put all of the actors, in their primes, in one room, Sean would stand out as the Alpha and that is charisma.

  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Sean and Roger are the Bond giant's.
    Absolutely, and every actor to portray Bond had/has great qualities; but, if you were able to put all of the actors, in their primes, in one room, Sean would stand out as the Alpha and that is charisma.

    True. But Roger oozes star quality.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    talos7 wrote: »
    The one quality that successful pop stars , and I’ll include Frank Sinatra, a pop star of his era, often have in spades is charisma. That is something that cannot be manufactured, taught or coached.

    Of the Bond’s I think Sean had the most and in part accounts for him being generally thought of as the best.

    Now he would have made a good Felix.
  • talos7talos7 New Orleans
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Sean and Roger are the Bond giant's.
    Absolutely, and every actor to portray Bond had/has great qualities; but, if you were able to put all of the actors, in their primes, in one room, Sean would stand out as the Alpha and that is charisma.

    True. But Roger oozes star quality.
    He did, pure class.

  • MSL49MSL49 Finland
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    suavejmf wrote: »
    talos7 wrote: »
    MSL49 wrote: »
    I think Sean and Roger are the Bond giant's.
    Absolutely, and every actor to portray Bond had/has great qualities; but, if you were able to put all of the actors, in their primes, in one room, Sean would stand out as the Alpha and that is charisma.

    True. But Roger oozes star quality.

    Pierce has that star quality too.
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