Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • edited August 2020 Posts: 6,677
    BTW, isn't it probable that Dornan has already auditioned back in 05 or something, considering he's even older than Cavill?

    Do they usually come back for another casting? 14 odd years later? Wouldn't that be...awkward?
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,131
    GadgetMan wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    suavejmf wrote: »
    Univex wrote: »
    I'd love to see Craig's screen-test one day. Wasn't there a documentary coming out that had the screen-test in it? Being Bond, or Becoming Bond, what was it called?

    And about that last post of yours, @mtm, I agree. With all of it. See? ;)

    I’ve only seen photos.....and he did it with that silly hair cut from ‘The Invasion’ too.

    Yep.

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    I love this Haircut. I wanted it like this, very classic Bond look....He looks like Dalton(his alter ego) with it. Wow!!! Look at that Comma!

    That hair cut is 90’s Beckham or H from Steps. Slicked back it might be ok.....but Bond with ‘curtains’......just wrong IMO.

    The more styled promo pics looked good though.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,131
    Univex wrote: »
    Timothée Chalamet is a skinny American actor. Frail and weird. Why on earth would he be apt as James Bond?

    Can you imagine him alongside the other 6 Bonds in a poster? I'd laugh my lungs out.

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    I'll concede you one thing, @Pierce2Daniel, I'd rather have Dornan in the role.

    Ha ha ha. +1.

    I’m restraining myself with regards to this picture. But I’d rather they cancel the franchise than cast Chalamet.

  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Craig's look in Skyfall is actually my favourite.

    I actually preferred the much shorter hair and the tighter suits.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,936
    Yeah he's not looking bad in Skyfall, but then he doesn't exactly look bad in any of them! :) I tend to think his dodgiest look is in QoS, but it seems like all Bonds have to a have a dodgy do at some point: I think Thunderball, Moonraker and Licence to Kill are also low points on the barnet scale :D

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  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
    edited August 2020 Posts: 8,028
    mtm wrote: »
    I like Dornan a lot. He's great in The Siege Of Jadotville.

    I need to see him in more stuff; may well check out that one. Weird how his accent seems a bit off in the trailer considering where he's from! :D

    Well, he's playing a real life Irishman in it who was from the opposite side of the country from where Dornan was born. It's like trying to get someone from the north of England to play a natural Londoner. It's not perfect though, you're quite right.

    It is a great story though, and it's still a hot topic of debate here in Ireland even now. The valor displayed by those boys against superior forces is still somehow viewed as shameful. They were ostracised when they came home and still have yet to be honoured by the state.
    Univex wrote: »
    I like Dornan a lot. He's great in The Siege Of Jadotville.

    I don't dislike him. He's not a strange or weird proposal. I even like the so called "crazy eyes". They give him some gravitas. If he puts on a more deep commanding voice and swagger, I say he's a proper candidate.

    Kind of reminds me of Connery in The Hill.

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    BTW, thanks for the suggestion, didn't know about The Siege of Jadotville. Seems like a good flick. Will give it a watch :)


    I hope you enjoy it, @Univex. I have a personal connection to some of these guys depicted. My Dad was in the Irish army for 30 years so I had the privilege of meeting many of the still-living soldiers from the event depicted numerous times.

    I'm not sure if it will consolidate any views on Dornan re: Bond, but at the very least it should alleviate any notions that that bloomin' 50 Shades franchise may have created!
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 12,837
    Pattinson I think could’ve been a good shout, if a bit effeminate after Craig (cracking actor but I think the days of metrosexual Bonds are behind us; I’m expecting the next one to be quite similar to DC), but obviously Batman will have ruled him out. Chamalet is another good actor, but I think he’d be better off as a villain. I could see him as a creepy, Dario esque henchman.

    But count me as another one who always enjoys what @Pierce2Daniel has to say. Don’t always agree with him, but he always tries to actually provoke discussion with his posts, rather than just spamming emojis and “+1”, and his left field suggestions add a bit of variety to what would otherwise be a fairly dull thread, imo.

    Oh, and grow up @mtm, if Bond was a motorbike he’d obviously be a Triumph Bonneville ;) An old school British icon. I’ve wanted him to have a Q Branch fitted Triumph for a while. Could make a nice break from the Astons, and having him ride a bike as his personal vehicle (rather than just comandeering one) could bring out the side of him that’s addicted to danger. I know this has come up before and people say they’re not Bondanian enough, but I disagree. Everything he loves about driving, the sensory experience of it, you get more of from riding. Fleming would’ve loved it if he’d tried it imo. And Bond after all would rather die than reach mandatory retirement. He lives on the edge. A good British motorbike would suit him I reckon. Think of him racing through traffic, really seeing how far he‘d dare to push himself, before casually pulling up to a casino, taking off his helmet and lighting a fag.

    I’d love to see him on any Triumph, I’ve owned a couple myself, but I do think a Bonneville would suit him best. If it’s good enough for Steve Mcqueen.
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    I’d love to see him on any Triumph

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  • Univex wrote: »
    I’d love to see him on any Triumph

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    Ooh nice. I was going to say I saw a glimpse in the trailer and just assumed it was another Honda or something, but come to think of it I’m sure I remember praising the decision to use one on here. Maybe I’m just going senile.

    Googled it and apparently they’re an official partner for the film as well, so we’ll get a couple of different bikes. Great stuff. Hopefully the two brands will become linked in the same way they are with Aston and Omega.
  • CraigMooreOHMSSCraigMooreOHMSS Dublin, Ireland
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    I'm fine with left field suggestions that at least can be given reasonable supporting evidence - there have been plenty of suggestions throughout these pages that could be considered left of field. Hell, the only one who is not really left of field these days is Aidan Turner in terms of looks. The Chalamet suggestion often seems more provocative than productive, though. He's American, and twenty-four years of age. He's six months older than my younger brother.

    There are loads of actors that I absolutely love, young and old, but I'm not going to suggest them for Bond simply because of that fact.

    Suggest all the wildcards you want, but people getting riled up about the obvious reaction is silly. That is the nature of suggesting a wildcard. There are other ways of keeping the thread vibrant and cutting down on the emojis and short answers.

    For what it's worth, I haven't read any responses here as being sincerely nasty. If you can't handle the heat of a gentle mocking of a suggestion, stay out of the 'Who Should/Could Be A Bond Actor' kitchen.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 12,837
    I'm fine with left field suggestions that at least can be given reasonable supporting evidence - there have been plenty of suggestions throughout these pages that could be considered left of field. Hell, the only one who is not really left of field these days is Aidan Turner in terms of looks. The Chalamet suggestion often seems more provocative than productive, though. He's American, and twenty-four years of age. He's six months older than my younger brother.

    There are loads of actors that I absolutely love, young and old, but I'm not going to suggest them for Bond simply because of that fact.

    Suggest all the wildcards you want, but people getting riled up about the obvious reaction is silly. That is the nature of suggesting a wildcard. There are other ways of keeping the thread vibrant and cutting down on the emojis and short answers.

    For what it's worth, I haven't read any responses here as being sincerely nasty. If you can't handle the heat of a gentle mocking of a suggestion, stay out of the 'Who Should/Could Be A Bond Actor' kitchen.

    I wouldn’t say either of those things automatically disqualify him to be fair, at least not in my eyes. Twenty four likely means he’d be twenty eight by the time filming for the next one starts (young, but not necessarily too young). And an American wouldn’t bother me, personally. Jon Hamm would probably be my top choice if he wasn’t too old (assuming he can do the accent). Brosnan may as well have been American, he’s got that weird transatlantic thing going on. Not sure the producers would agree with me thoufh.

    What disqualifies him for me is he just doesn’t look masculine enough at all. But I do think it’s fun to think of left field actors who could pull off a surprise transformation, even if I don’t agree with this specific choice. I feel like we’ve discussed the obvious contenders countless times over the years. Although having said that, I’d rather keep the Turner lovefest going than have people seriously championing Henry Cavill again.
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah he's not looking bad in Skyfall, but then he doesn't exactly look bad in any of them! :) I tend to think his dodgiest look is in QoS, but it seems like all Bonds have to a have a dodgy do at some point: I think Thunderball, Moonraker and Licence to Kill are also low points on the barnet scale :D

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    Why Thunderball?
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,936
    Pattinson I think could’ve been a good shout, if a bit effeminate after Craig (cracking actor but I think the days of metrosexual Bonds are behind us; I’m expecting the next one to be quite similar to DC), but obviously Batman will have ruled him out. Chamalet is another good actor, but I think he’d be better off as a villain. I could see him as a creepy, Dario esque henchman.

    But count me as another one who always enjoys what @Pierce2Daniel has to say. Don’t always agree with him, but he always tries to actually provoke discussion with his posts, rather than just spamming emojis and “+1”, and his left field suggestions add a bit of variety to what would otherwise be a fairly dull thread, imo.

    Oh, and grow up @mtm, if Bond was a motorbike he’d obviously be a Triumph Bonneville ;) An old school British icon. I’ve wanted him to have a Q Branch fitted Triumph for a while. Could make a nice break from the Astons, and having him ride a bike as his personal vehicle (rather than just comandeering one) could bring out the side of him that’s addicted to danger. I know this has come up before and people say they’re not Bondanian enough, but I disagree. Everything he loves about driving, the sensory experience of it, you get more of from riding. Fleming would’ve loved it if he’d tried it imo. And Bond after all would rather die than reach mandatory retirement. He lives on the edge. A good British motorbike would suit him I reckon. Think of him racing through traffic, really seeing how far he‘d dare to push himself, before casually pulling up to a casino, taking off his helmet and lighting a fag.

    I’d love to see him on any Triumph, I’ve owned a couple myself, but I do think a Bonneville would suit him best. If it’s good enough for Steve Mcqueen.

    Heh! You’ll enjoy the new film then! :)
    ToTheRight wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah he's not looking bad in Skyfall, but then he doesn't exactly look bad in any of them! :) I tend to think his dodgiest look is in QoS, but it seems like all Bonds have to a have a dodgy do at some point: I think Thunderball, Moonraker and Licence to Kill are also low points on the barnet scale :D

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    Why Thunderball?

    I think it’s his dodgiest syrup with a bit of an extreme parting :)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    I'm fine with left field suggestions that at least can be given reasonable supporting evidence - there have been plenty of suggestions throughout these pages that could be considered left of field. Hell, the only one who is not really left of field these days is Aidan Turner in terms of looks. The Chalamet suggestion often seems more provocative than productive, though. He's American, and twenty-four years of age. He's six months older than my younger brother.

    There are loads of actors that I absolutely love, young and old, but I'm not going to suggest them for Bond simply because of that fact.

    Suggest all the wildcards you want, but people getting riled up about the obvious reaction is silly. That is the nature of suggesting a wildcard. There are other ways of keeping the thread vibrant and cutting down on the emojis and short answers.

    For what it's worth, I haven't read any responses here as being sincerely nasty. If you can't handle the heat of a gentle mocking of a suggestion, stay out of the 'Who Should/Could Be A Bond Actor' kitchen.

    I wouldn’t say either of those things automatically disqualify him to be fair, at least not in my eyes. Twenty four likely means he’d be twenty eight by the time filming for the next one starts (young, but not necessarily too young). And an American wouldn’t bother me, personally. Jon Hamm would probably be my top choice if he wasn’t too old (assuming he can do the accent). Brosnan may as well have been American, he’s got that weird transatlantic thing going on. Not sure the producers would agree with me thoufh.

    What disqualifies him for me is he just doesn’t look masculine enough at all. But I do think it’s fun to think of left field actors who could pull off a surprise transformation, even if I don’t agree with this specific choice. I feel like we’ve discussed the obvious contenders countless times over the years. Although having said that, I’d rather keep the Turner lovefest going than have people seriously championing Henry Cavill again.

    It’s funny how opinions differ......

    Everything about Chalamet is the opposite of Bond for me.

    An American Bond is totally unacceptable IMO (not starting this debate again, but American actors are awful at a British dialect of any kind, again IMO). I’d go so far as to say I probably wouldn’t watch the film. I still have dreadful thoughts about how John Gavin or James Brolin could have ruined Bond forever. Brolin’s ‘all American screen test’ is almost comedy gold (or wood). For me, it just didn’t work and in his case he made no effort at an English accent at all.

    I don’t think Pierce sounded remotely American and although I’m no advocate for Cavill as Bond, I’d have him in the role above many of the ‘left field suggestions’.

    I agree John Hamm looks like a Bond. But he’s American, which for me rules him out.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    I guess Brolin was taking the Connery approach to accents! :)
    Weirdly with the screen test I found I accepted it quite quickly, but yeah I think I’d miss it in a full movie.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    The only thing that would bother me about an American actor is how baffling it would be to think that they struggled to find a British one...
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Well we're struggling! :)
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    mtm wrote: »
    I guess Brolin was taking the Connery approach to accents! :)
    Weirdly with the screen test I found I accepted it quite quickly, but yeah I think I’d miss it in a full movie.

    True. Sean was a brilliant Bond. But when he’s playing a Russian General or a Spanish Warrior....still Scottish!! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,869
    mtm wrote: »
    Well we're struggling! :)
    Haha sure, but EON certainly have the advantage over us on how they judge an actor for the role haha :D
    Also I doubt we’ve even covered real ground with British actors. Plenty more out there than the ones we’ve mentioned :D
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,936
    suavejmf wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    I guess Brolin was taking the Connery approach to accents! :)
    Weirdly with the screen test I found I accepted it quite quickly, but yeah I think I’d miss it in a full movie.

    True. Sean was a brilliant Bond. But when he’s playing a Russian General or a Spanish Warrior....still Scottish!! 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣

    It's worse than that: he was supposed to be Egyptian in Highlander!
    Denbigh wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Well we're struggling! :)
    Haha sure, but EON certainly have the advantage over us on how they judge an actor for the role haha :D
    Also I doubt we’ve even covered real ground with British actors. Plenty more out there than the ones we’ve mentioned :D

    There is, but I reckon you need an experienced one. They got Craig at exactly the right moment in his career.
    That's why I think the suggestions like Sam Claflin or Nicholas Hoult feel closest to the money to me, although who knows: our Bond candidate may show himself with a starring role in a movie in the next couple of years.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    Sam Claflin is an actor I’d be very happy to see cast. He’s certainly in my top five.
  • edited August 2020 Posts: 12,837
    Jack O Connell is probably still my number one choice. Brilliant actor who can carry a film (deserved a BAFTA for Starred Up), he just oozes presence, and he’s hard and masculine enough to sell the danger of the role, while still being young enough to be a viable long term choice.

    The one thing against him so far is I haven’t seen him do the whole suave posh thing before. But I think that’s less important than having presence, charisma, and masculinity. The posh boy stuff can be learnt. Connery is evidence of that. An Edinburgh milkman bodybuilder who Young moulded into the former private school boy. But that raw presence and charisma, that magnetism, I think that’s something you either have or you don’t.

    I think that’s generally a better approach to take than hiring posh drama school types these days as well; hiring a more edgy, dangerous actor and moulding them into the suave upper class archetype. Vesper summed Bond up well. He’s posh but he’s not a toff. Back in the day they could cast drama school sort of actors, and it was fine, because people didn’t age as well back then. Plus the social mobility of grammar schools and things like that meant you had actors who went to drama school, and looked and sounded upper class, but who still knew how to carry themselves, and weren’t weak chinned or anything like that. But nowadays, with so many less people smoking, people generally being healthier, and that kind of formal/classical education being harder to afford for most people, I think you can tell the difference between someone who’s lived a life and someone who’s had it handed to them. Not necessarily from their looks (although looking a bit older and more masculine helps), but from their presence imo. The vibe they give off.

    Compare Dalton to Tom Hiddleston for example. Same classical training (RADA), so both of them sound upper class, but Dalton just has a more dangerous, masculine presence about him. Because he was a RADA graduate from a different era, where kids of his background could afford it. The current crop from those sort of schools just don’t seem tough enough to me (based off the examples I’ve seen, could be proven wrong), because I think social mobility in this country is constantly going further and further downhill, which is why I’d rather an actor like O Connell.

    You can see it in the wider acting world too imo, at least when it comes to the biggest productions (obviously TV and British film is different). Our biggest Hollywood exports used to be people like Finney, Connery, Caine. They could do refined and upper class, but they still had that edge about them. Nowadays it’s actors like Hiddleston and Cumberbatch who are our biggest exports. Bond is an old etonian sure, but he shouldn’t seem too much like one imo.

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    I think he’s got the same sort of vibe as Craig, seems very much BB’s type. And while he hasn’t done much big American stuff, she’s president of BAFTA, so I imagine she’s seen Starred Up and 71. I reckon he might be on the radar, I could see him auditioning.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,936
    I think he's very strong and wouldn't mind at all. Others will shriek about him being too short, but I tend to think actors in movies all end up twenty feet tall anyway! :)

    I didn't realise BB was on the board for BAFTA.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited August 2020 Posts: 5,869
    I agree wholeheartedly @thelivingroyale, Jack O' Connell is a great actor and would be perfect to takeover the franchise, but as I'm sure some will point out, many believe his height will hold him back (5′ 8"). Although I believe if the producers think he's good enough then there's no reason not to give him a screentest. If there's only small thing holding him back, it's not enough to completely be ruled out.

    And although he's another people won't get behind, I feel the same with Aaron Taylor-Johnson. While physically right for the role, many question his voice, but as I've stated before, when you're an actor, if you're good enough, your voice is the easiest thing you can change if that's even something they want to differ.

    But back to your point, if I was a producer, I'd certainly have my sights on O'Connell.

    I saw him on stage once in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof with Sienna Miller, and sat in the front row, I can tell you, he makes quite the impression in person as well as one screen.
  • mtm wrote: »
    I think he's very strong and wouldn't mind at all. Others will shriek about him being too short, but I tend to think actors in movies all end up twenty feet tall anyway! :)

    Yeah, I really don’t think height matters to anyone outside of this forum to be honest.

    Take Tom Cruise. 5’6, possibly even shorter now he’s getting on a bit. But that doesn’t stop people fawning over the new MI films and saying they’re better than Bond. He’s still a sex symbol too, despite his height.

    So, I think a 5’8 actor is fine. Especially when that actor has the presence that O’Connell has. Movie magic will do most of the work and they can always cast shorter Bond girls if they’re that bothered (Jenna Coleman for example, 5’2, absolutely stunning in a proper classy way; real Bond girl material).

    @Denbigh I’ll have to check out more of Taylor Johnson. I’ve only seen him in Kick Ass (which he was great in, but it’s obviously not a Bond esque role) and Godzilla (disappointing film all round imo). But I’ve seen him mentioned a few times on here, so he must have something about him.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
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    mtm wrote: »
    I think he's very strong and wouldn't mind at all. Others will shriek about him being too short, but I tend to think actors in movies all end up twenty feet tall anyway! :)
    @Denbigh I’ll have to check out more of Taylor Johnson. I’ve only seen him in Kick Ass (which he was great in, but it’s obviously not a Bond esque role) and Godzilla (disappointing film all round imo). But I’ve seen him mentioned a few times on here, so he must have something about him.
    He certainly deserves a screen test and his star is certainly continue to rise. To be honest the mention of him has probably been consistently myself haha, but I'm sure others can see something in him.

    I'd recommend watching Nocturnal Animals, where he shows his intensity and range as an actor, and Nowhere Boy, which is just a great film imo and his performance as John Lennon was brilliant :)
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited August 2020 Posts: 14,936
    Ooh yes I’d forgotten he’s in Nocturnal Animals: that’s a scary one. Excellent movie.
  • GadgetManGadgetMan Lagos, Nigeria
    edited August 2020 Posts: 4,247
    Yeah, O'Connell looks it. I think the main problem with his height, is not about him alone ....it's how he looks with the Bond girls. The girls might be taller, I know not every girl is 6 ft 3 like Elizabeth Debicki, but even the average-looking girl is taller once she puts on heels....and Bond girls usually do.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    If Tom manages I'm sure he could though.
  • JeremyBondonJeremyBondon Seeking out odd jobs with Oddjob @Tangier
    edited August 2020 Posts: 1,318
    Jack's a midget and so are his teeth. Next.
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