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It is elitist. Like the character of Bond. But anyone is free to agree or disagree on this forum.
TBH I’m not massively pro Aidan Turner, I’m just massively against a none handsome, very short and what I see as a ‘common’ Bond. Again, my opinion, which I am sure many disagree with.
The problem in general on this forum is members get offended when they can’t change other people’s minds or they have their opinions disagreed with. When really no one should care either way.
I agree, you might not ‘write off’ anyone. But it doesn’t mean others can’t.
For me (not you) an actor being short (for example) should be a ‘write off’.
That’s fine that you don’t agree with me. But I don’t have to follow the same ethos.
The age, more so, in the context of it being the era that follows Craig's, as I really think they need to freshen things up, as while they've been successful, I feel James Bond is no longer what it used to be mainstream audiences, and I think EON need to make some good decisions to fix that. We love it, I love it, but a lot of people seem to not care anymore.
Fame and age may indeed be ‘write offs’ for both those candidates. Agreed.
But I still would quite like Hiddleston for the part after seeing the Night Manager. Whether or not that’s realistic or not doesn’t matter to me as I feel he could fit the mould of the part.
Elba has been a ‘write off’ for me from the start. He’s a great actor, but he physically can’t play a white character. Whether people like that view point or not is irrelevant to me personally, as I personally won’t be changing my mind.
Admittedly, I don’t think there are enough decent candidates out there. Hence, why the press make stupid suggestions like ‘a woman.’
What would be your objection to just making one off films, with different actors each time? So that we could see Fassbender etc, despite their age. Sounds dreadful to me, but on the other thread your argument was that each new actor is a reboot anyway. If that's the case, why not just change the actor each time, or have them for only a couple of films before switching?
Whilst some of the plot of SP was a ‘miss-step’ I don’t think the general public really cared.
Box office takings don’t suggest the franchise is ‘dead in the water’ at all? In fact demand seems to be on the increase (Skyfall)...... So this is a tad confusing to me.
What if we like one guy and would like him to stick around but now their system is to change it every-time? What if we don't like one guy but he eventually would've been great if he had been given more films to get comfortable like many believe Lazenby needed? I see your idea, but I think it could cause more problems.
Also recasting will always delay the process, so you'd be looking at these longer gaps more often, which in my eyes, would keep the franchise where it is.
I think they just need to make decisions about casting and tone that's gonna have mass appeal. I think they also need a clearer vision and shorter breaks. I understand that they can't see these things coming, and every delay that has happened, has happened for a good reason but I think if they have a better plan, with whoever they cast and whatever route they want to go down, from the beginning, they might be able to avoid that. Maybe even consider keeping on directors more.
Honestly, if No Time to Die is a success, I would have EON sit down with Fukunaga and discuss possibly working together again. Just because I believe he's brought this freshness in terms of quality and tone - already I think - and I haven't even seen the film. The only thing I think he's gonna be held back by here is the corner they wrote themselves into with Spectre. Imagine what he could possibly do with a clean slate and a new 007.
Thanks for your response. It wasn't my idea as such, just wondering what your take on that approach would be, given what we discussed the other night on the NTTD thread. I also didn't mean to imply change every time, so much as not give a guy a five film contract and be lumbered with him for ages. If it is renegotiated every time it's less of an issue.
I agree with your reasoning on the cast and directors, but the issue is that they are taking so long to make films that it's simply unsustainable. Hence, why one solution would be to forget it as a series, and just treat them as one off productions. If they continue with an overrarching narrative like they have with Craig then again, this can't happen.
They really seem to have gotten themselves in a bind I think.
Anyway, Turner is my pick out of all the ones mentioned on the thread so far.
Indeed. There's a massive lack of respect from some folks in here whilst they simultaneously claim to be being polite and respectful: laughing at others' suggestions and addressing them as 'so-called candidates' is not respectful- it's disdainful and rude and unpleasant.
Personally I find it interesting to think around the subject the little and consider different people for this role, but these folk who just want to shut down every suggestion, 'automatically reject' them because they don't look exactly like Tim Dalton, make this conversation very wearing and not worth getting into.
Although again, I think having a chat with Fukunaga if No Time to Die is a success, wouldn't be a bad idea. New slate, new 007, with no ties to any continuity or previous narrative.
And yeah, it's the battle of the Turners between us @FatherValentine, Callum or Aidan. EON decide haha :D
Either way I'm happy to have my surname up on a James Bond poster ;)
If NTTD is good, then of course I wouldn't mind him having another go. It would make sense. As long as they get a move on though! Don't let him go off and make an entire TV series in the meantime!
I love Casino Royale and Skyfall to death, and their my top two favourites, but something about this film just reminded of the old classic Bond adventures, while looking and feeling fresh and modern. Love it.
I know you were, I'm saying my choice is Callum. We'll see who EON chooses - if either haha :D
I'll have to check out Callum in something. I just googled him again and realised I might have been exaggerating when I said I was better looking.
There is a concept that would keep from watching a new Bond film, though, and that is the code name theory actually being given credence on-screen. For me that's a franchise-killer.
I'd suggest the TV series The Capture, and the films, Queen and Country and Fantastic Beasts 2, although his role is quite limited in Beasts, but he just has more of the "upper-class" Bondian quality about him in that film, compared to his other performances. He's also good in Emma. I'm quite the fan of his "I'm sick of England" delivery in that film.
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Just create an intricate plot & remind us Bond is a Naval Officer by adding the military to the plot, Get a complex & beautiful femme fatale, Get a Complex, Beautiful & Independent Love interest, Get an eccentric & unique Villian, surround him with an array of interesting & peculiar Henchmen who frequently stalk Bond, keep up with the standout & innovative action scenes, Take us to exotic & at the same time, ethereal locales, create fear & suspense, add a bit of technology & gadgetry that won't stray from the plot, get a good composer, a good artist, etc...all these can be done without the films being pastiche, it's just a matter of getting the balance right....after all, Older quality films like FRWL, GF, OHMSS, TSWLM, TLD, GE, etc. had all these elements.
If all these colourful elements aren't brought back to the franchise to match with the gritty style, it might begin to lose its escapism. It's only we the Avid Bond fans that love Craig's take on the franchise in movies like CR, QoS & SF, majority of casual fans don't, they want a return to CLASSIC Bond....and it's not difficult to do all these, the Bondian ingredients are already there....it shouldn't be that strenuous. I hope this is EON's plan for Bond 7 & Bond 26.
Although I'm one of the people that is kind of glad about the circumstances with Boyle, as I'm way more interested in seeing what Fukunaga delivers as opposed to the former. I actually remember feeling quite deflated when Boyle was first announced.
:) Thanks @Denbigh....Just Clamouring for the best like any other Bond fan here.
Matching that quality would be most welcome again.
Yeah, I like Fukunaga & Boyle and am eager to see what Fukunaga conjures up as well, but at end of the Day, It's EON's choice on which Direction the franchise takes....if they really wanted a Standalone adventure, Fukunaga would have also done it.
Yeah, the only thing I think might stop him is, he might be wary of not returning immediately....so he doesn't repeat himself like Mendes.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Bond#/media/File:Hoagy_Carmichael_-_1947.jpg
https://flaunt.com/content/callum-turner
Very much agreed.
I really don’t want a slightly tired retread of the old formula: I think CR showed us it doesn’t have to the exact same big base, sacrificial lamb, femme fatale combination of elements. If they can come up with a clever and satisfying plot with a hint of twisted weirdness in there somewhere that’s all it needs I think. Folks have been quite excited by not knowing what happens in NTTD, and that’s down to it not being the old YOLT-style plot.