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Who should/could be a Bond actor?

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  • MajorDSmytheMajorDSmythe "I tolerate this century, but I don't enjoy it."Moderator
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    nikos78 wrote: »
    Jack O' Connell's got the looks, the talent and he's only 24, so he has time before Craig completes his 5th -even hopefully 6th- outing. As long as he doesn't get too famous in the meantime, like Hardy and Fassbender.

    O'Connell, like Hardy and Craig, is to thuggish imo. Fassbender, I could see making a good Bond. But at 38, and with these 3 year gaps between films, he might be deemed as to old, and too famous for Bond.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    MajorDSmythe wrote: »
    nikos78 wrote: »
    Jack O' Connell's got the looks, the talent and he's only 24, so he has time before Craig completes his 5th -even hopefully 6th- outing. As long as he doesn't get too famous in the meantime, like Hardy and Fassbender.

    O'Connell, like Hardy and Craig, is to thuggish imo. Fassbender, I could see making a good Bond. But at 38, and with these 3 year gaps between films, he might be deemed as to old, and too famous for Bond.

    He will be too old and is in demand. I just saw the trailer for Fassbender as Steve Jobs. Awsome transformation.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Creasy47 wrote: »
    @Ludovico, apparently, Clive Owen's "audition" for the role of James Bond was that of his role in 'The Pink Panther.'

    I'm also getting quite tired of hearing about Idris Elba so much. He's too old, it won't happen. Fact, end of discussion, doesn't need to be brought up in any more trashy Yahoo articles that try to condemn those who are against him playing Bond as racists. He's too old, it's just not going to happen. Fantastic actor, though, don't get me wrong, but he isn't James Bond.

    Idris Elba is a great actor but yes, wrong for Bond. Race aside he's too old, too heavy and now too arrogant about it. This whole affair has shown a rather unpleasant side of him.
  • patbpatb
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    When Craig got the role, were there any rumours in advance or was it out of the blue. With hindsight, he was an inspired choice, there could be someone else out there that none of us have spotted.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    Sark wrote: »
    It will be another reboot this time a younger actor. Initial one film deal, see how it goes then if succesfull signed them up for 4 more films.

    I think they might go back to the Novels in a correct sequence. It may even be a period Bond franchise set in the 50/60's?

    Or they can go with a new time line, new cast, and start off with new stories in modern times?

    Or the new films take place between the events of Casino and Skyfall with another actor?

    I would love to bet against any of these happening. There's no reason a new Bond needs to fit into the previous films timelines. There never has been.

    Exactly. No need whatsoever for the next fella' to 'fit into' any of the Craig timeline.
    They will cast a 30-34 year old who will not be too expensive and who's schedule will permit a film every 3 years at a minimum.

    There will be plenty of talent to choose from in 3-4 year's time - imo it is far more a question of luck, more so than decision making. Connery was in the right place at the right time, it wasn't so much Cubby & Saltzman's 'genius' that cast him...
  • dinovelvetdinovelvet
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    patb wrote: »
    When Craig got the role, were there any rumours in advance or was it out of the blue. With hindsight, he was an inspired choice, there could be someone else out there that none of us have spotted.

    There were indeed some rumors in advance, I remember this very well - the first time I heard of Daniel Craig being associated with Bond was March 2005. Why do I remember that specifically? Because I had just seen The Jacket that very day and I was at home looking around the web and there was the story that he was in the rumor mill for Bond. I was like...HIM? I could only picture him as the scruffy mental patient from The Jacket, not exactly an audition piece for Bond, so I was a bit thrown off. Anyway Layer Cake came out in the US that June and I believe he did some interviews where he confirmed he'd met with EON.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    patb wrote: »
    When Craig got the role, were there any rumours in advance or was it out of the blue. With hindsight, he was an inspired choice, there could be someone else out there that none of us have spotted.

    Not entirely out of the blue, though I remember that Cavill and Clive Owen were the front-runners according to the media, and Craig was not even mentioned in some of the 'next Bond' articles at the time...
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    patb wrote: »
    When Craig got the role, were there any rumours in advance or was it out of the blue. With hindsight, he was an inspired choice, there could be someone else out there that none of us have spotted.

    The story is Barbara Brocolli was at the London premiere of Munich at a time she was considering people for Bond. She has seen him in Layer Cake and openly admit she has the hots for him. But it was portrayal of Steve in Munich in what I believe she is quoted as saying "That's when I saw my Bond on screen". She apprently fought two battles to get her way. One to convince Daniel to do it and another with the studio to convince them he was the right guy. But publicly we knew very little until the reveal. All credit to Barbs she called it right.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    SirHilaryBray wrote: »
    patb wrote: »
    When Craig got the role, were there any rumours in advance or was it out of the blue. With hindsight, he was an inspired choice, there could be someone else out there that none of us have spotted.

    The story is Barbara Brocolli was at the London premiere of Munich at a time she was considering people for Bond. She has seen him in Layer Cake and openly admit she has the hots for him. But it was portrayal of Steve in Munich in what I believe she is quoted as saying "That's when I saw my Bond on screen". She apprently fought two battles to get her way. One to convince Daniel to do it and another with the studio to convince them he was the right guy. But publicly we knew very little until the reveal. All credit to Barbs she called it right.

    No, no and no again %-(
    Sorry, but the credit does not 'go to Babs'. She has proven time & time again that she does not make good creative decisions. She got LUCKY.

    The credit goes straight to the actor who gave it his heart & soul to become Fleming's 007 whilst still giving a clueless, hyperactive cinema audience their kicks - Dan is a class act and he would make ANY role believable, in a similar way that Christian Bale does.

    Just because 'Babs' got all fuzzy in her knickers from the mere sight of Dan does not mean she is a genius for insisting DC got the part.

    Rant over :D
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    Barb still deserves credit. It was her call. She's the one who first saw something in Craig. You can talk about luck all you want she made the decision, it was her call, she went against skepticism if not hostility from the public at first. She could have convinced any other actor and found a more obvious/consensual choice. She did not. She was both inspired and firm and should be praised.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
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    Ludovico wrote: »
    Barb still deserves credit. It was her call. She's the one who first saw something in Craig. You can talk about luck all you want she made the decision, it was her call, she went against skepticism if not hostility from the public at first. She could have convinced any other actor and found a more obvious/consensual choice. She did not. She was both inspired and firm and should be praised.
    I agree. It's unfair to say none of the credit goes to her.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    jake24 wrote: »
    Ludovico wrote: »
    Barb still deserves credit. It was her call. She's the one who first saw something in Craig. You can talk about luck all you want she made the decision, it was her call, she went against skepticism if not hostility from the public at first. She could have convinced any other actor and found a more obvious/consensual choice. She did not. She was both inspired and firm and should be praised.
    I agree. It's unfair to say none of the credit goes to her.

    She gambled and got lucky. Credit her for taking a risk perhaps, yes, but she did not foresee what DC would do with the role because she does not posses that kind of judgement.
    Hindsight makes it look like some genius move, but imo it was just a gamble that paid off, luckily for her.
  • jake24jake24 Sitting at your desk, kissing your lover, eating supper with your familyModerator
    edited May 2015 Posts: 10,588
    If it weren't for the risk she took or her persuasiveness, then we would most likely not have quite arguably the best bond (other than Connery) to play the role. Yet if it weren't for Daniel's superb acting skills and believability, we wouldn't have him either. There are two sides to the same coin.
  • DaltonCraig007DaltonCraig007 They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."
    edited May 2015 Posts: 15,694
    IMO any new Bond actor who would have been chosen for CR would have gotten a huge media and internet backlash like the one Craig had. It's gotten very fashionable for people to complain a lot about casting decisions for major characters/franchises. And it's only getting worse, so I think for Bond #7, EON will have to cope with another backlash.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    You don't gamble casting. Take a risk yes but it's never pure gamble. She was perceptive, she obviously knows a thing or two about acting. I wouldn't be so dismissive about what is her idea in the first place.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited May 2015 Posts: 1,727
    Ludovico wrote: »
    You don't gamble casting. Take a risk yes but it's never pure gamble. She was perceptive, she obviously knows a thing or two about acting. I wouldn't be so dismissive about what is her idea in the first place.

    Remember though - this is the woman who thought Purvis & Wade were the right guys to write screenplays for Bond films based simply on the fact that they had good knowledge of the franchise... that's like giving a guy control over a ship just because he knows the waters.

    I stand by my opinion - Babs should be a producer on paper alone and get someone more discerning to make creative decisions.
  • LeChiffreLeChiffre
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    As much as I'd love Tom Hardy to take over I'm not sure he'd want to commit to another franchise after the success of Mad Max. Hopefully the lure of Bond will sway him him though. No Fassbender thanks. Aidan Turner could be in the running for a return to the dark haired Bond that the so-called purists seem to prefer.
  • doubleoegodoubleoego #LightWork
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    DaltonCraig007 wrote: »
    IMO any new Bond actor who would have been chosen for CR would have gotten a huge media and internet backlash like the one Craig had.

    I completely disagree with that.

    People were actually quite excited and were looking forward to who the new Bond will be but in Craig's case, irrespective of his acting talent the guy just rubbed so many people the wrong way with the way he looked at the time and people, the media were brutally vocal about it. James Bond even today still has a cliched and generic look to him that many actors can fill. Tall, dark and traditionally handsome. Craig was skinny, had floppy blond hair, wasn't 6ft something and didn't look like the poster boy for a Givenchy ad.

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    This man to many people, understandably just was not what was expected as being James Bond and they were viciously vocal about it. I doubt the likes of Cavill would have received a modicum of the abuse Craig endured; at least not before the film was released anyway.
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    We can debate about Purvis and Wade and their responsibility for things that went wrong. I for one have a more nuanced view on their contribution to the franchise but this is irrelevant to the current topic. Had Barb made a thousand mistakes that would mean nothing regarding her casting decision. Which she got right. And she can take credit for that.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited May 2015 Posts: 1,727
    Basically what I am trying to say is : Daniel Craig made Babs look good/saved her skin & that of the franchise - not the other way around.
    007 Is still going strong despite Barbara Broccoli, not because of her.
    As you may have noticed, I'm not her biggest fan...
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    Babs made mistakes early on as she was getting her feet wet and building experience. She's an old hand now and knows what it's about. I have complete faith in her after her bold decision for Craig. If she's involved, we have nothing to be worried about when it comes to the next Bond actor. I actually have more faith in her than I do in MGW.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
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    bondjames wrote: »
    Babs made mistakes early on as she was getting her feet wet and building experience. She's an old hand now and knows what it's about. I have complete faith in her after her bold decision for Craig. If she's involved, we have nothing to be worried about when it comes to the next Bond actor. I actually have more faith in her than I do in MGW.

    I'd prefer to see someone completely new take the reins. I don't want 'Craig Mk II' when Dan retires.
    But I guess I'm in a minority and most people think 'Babs' knows what she's doing :>
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    AceHole wrote: »
    bondjames wrote: »
    Babs made mistakes early on as she was getting her feet wet and building experience. She's an old hand now and knows what it's about. I have complete faith in her after her bold decision for Craig. If she's involved, we have nothing to be worried about when it comes to the next Bond actor. I actually have more faith in her than I do in MGW.

    I'd prefer to see someone completely new take the reins. I don't want 'Craig Mk II' when Dan retires.
    But I guess I'm in a minority and most people think 'Babs' knows what she's doing :>

    Going back to what I said previously. I think Barbara and Michael have been great custodians of the franchise and believe when Dan's time is up it will be the next generation of the family Gregg & David G Wilsons turn to reboot it with french new ideas. Hoyte van Hoytema doing Cinemotography for Spectre was a master stroke Cinematically Bond can only get bigger, Bond for the Imax generation. I would love to see Chris and Jonathan Nolan come on for story writting and direction from Bond 26 with a new Bond and cast. Kind of the Interstella team back together. Onwards and upwards but I will be sad when Dan goes he is a terrific Bond in some ways his performace holds up poor written parts of his era, and I do agree Dan is a bigger reason than Barbs for the recent success. But Bards does deserve credit because Dan was not an obvious Bond, he wasn't from the usual mould and his prior roles were not an obvious path to Bond. She saw something in him that we all see now and thats before he hit the Gym for Casino.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    If his accent English accent was proved flawless Eric Bana may have been an Option. Christina Bale would have been an excellent choice. Russell Crowe has the acting ability, although he may be too 'gruff' as well as his off screen persona being dire for the brand.
  • bondjamesbondjames You were expecting someone else?
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    I've always thought Bale was stolen from us for the Bat. I agree that he would have been outstanding. Whenever he's in his Wayne suits he just screams Bond - a cross between Brosnan and Craig - suave but with an edge.

    Bana could be good too (really liked him in Closed Circuit) but whenever I see him I'm reminded of that tragedy that is Hulk. Sadly it's indelibly imprinted in my mind forever.
  • Lancaster007Lancaster007 Shrublands Health Clinic, England
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    Watching BBC2s The Game, and thinking that in a few years time (after Bond 25 if Craig does it) then Tom Hughes who plays MI5 agent Joe would make a good Bond.
  • AceHoleAceHole Belgium, via Britain
    edited May 2015 Posts: 1,727
    Lancaster007 wrote: »
    Watching BBC2s The Game, and thinking that in a few years time (after Bond 25 if Craig does it) then Tom Hughes who plays MI5 agent Joe would make a good Bond.

    I mentioned him a few weeks ago, and yes, he has some potential. Rather like a young Dalton, in a way, both in looks and approach...
    He's dark & edgy. Not sure about his cinematic appeal though, time will tell perhaps.
  • suavejmfsuavejmf Harrogate, North Yorkshire, England
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    bondjames wrote: »
    I've always thought Bale was stolen from us for the Bat. I agree that he would have been outstanding. Whenever he's in his Wayne suits he just screams Bond - a cross between Brosnan and Craig - suave but with an edge.

    Bana could be good too (really liked him in Closed Circuit) but whenever I see him I'm reminded of that tragedy that is Hulk. Sadly it's indelibly imprinted in my mind forever.

    Yes, I would agree with all these points.
  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Not a fan of the Tom Hughes look, similar to why I wouldnt like Nicholas Hoult or Sam Claflin to be considered, too airy fairy pretty boy look about them I think Bond has to be gritty not just pretty.

    Bale would have been decent back in 2002 when he did Equilibrium.

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  • SirHilaryBraySirHilaryBray Scotland
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    Here is one for you.. who could have been.

    Ian Flemings prefered actor for playing Bond Richard Todd, but scheduling conflicts prevented him from getting it.

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