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  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    As I said, with Callum, he has that strong balance of having the modern-edge as well as the look of Ian Fleming's original creation, whereas with Harris, in terms of his look, he feels more boyish still and more of an outlier in terms of imagining him in the role.

    Is there anything in particular that, you feel, gives him that 'modern edge'. And are there any actors you feel lack it?

    "Modern edge" means ugly. ;)
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Retired
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    As I said, with Callum, he has that strong balance of having the modern-edge as well as the look of Ian Fleming's original creation, whereas with Harris, in terms of his look, he feels more boyish still and more of an outlier in terms of imagining him in the role.

    Is there anything in particular that, you feel, gives him that 'modern edge'. And are there any actors you feel lack it?

    "Modern edge" means ugly. ;)

    Thanks Deke, but I'm looking for a sincere response.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Not entirely sure what modern edge means, but from interviews I’ve liked how he comes across. A blokeish type confidence if that makes sense? I can easily imagine him in a tuxedo strutting up to the bar and ordering a martini or chatting up a woman.

    I guess he has a bit of that old school movie star look about him, and this is what some people mean when saying he has that mix of modern and old school about him.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 25 Posts: 6,049
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    As I said, with Callum, he has that strong balance of having the modern-edge as well as the look of Ian Fleming's original creation, whereas with Harris, in terms of his look, he feels more boyish still and more of an outlier in terms of imagining him in the role.
    Is there anything in particular that, you feel, gives him that 'modern edge'. And are there any actors you feel lack it?
    Well, to put it simply, for me, ‘modern edge’ is simply the way Turner carries himself; his charisma feels authentic and decidedly of-the-moment. Also, it's about that blend that appeals to me the most. Like @007HallY said, he strikes the perfect balance of old-school movie-star quality and fresh, grounded authencity.

    As for actors who lack that quality. I mean this is all subjective, but Leo Suter certainly has a "modern-edge" to him, but I think lacks the old school quality, or more importantly, I feel lacks that resonance with the literary character which I think Callum has, which doesn't mean he's not right for the role, I'm just talking in terms of preference for me personally.

    Anyway, on the other hand, you have someone like Matt Smith, who I've always said would be better for a period television adaptation of James Bond because he fits so much better with the old school qualities of the original 007 than he does with the modern sensibilities that we've come to expect.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited June 25 Posts: 5,722
    Denbigh wrote: »

    As for actors who lack that quality. I mean this is all subjective, but Leo Suter certainly has a "modern-edge" to him, but I think lacks the old school quality, or more importantly, I feel lacks that resonance with the literary character which I think Callum has, which doesn't mean he's not right for the role, I'm just talking in terms of preference for me personally.

    Leo Suter’s an odd one for me. I always forget what he looks like immediately after watching him in something. Pretty sure I’ve been unable to recognise him from photos on this forum. He’s not a bad actor by any means, and not uncharismatic either and certainly good looking, but there’s something about him that just kinda blends into the background. Like he could be replaced by about ten other lookalikes from Central Casting or whatever… weird…

    I’m sure he’d be fine if picked as Bond though. But I don’t personally see it.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 25 Posts: 6,049
    He's never fully resonated with me either @007HallY, for the reasons I've stated but I think at the end of the day, it's more to do with his lack of work. Unlike Turner, he doesn't have a Masters of the Air that one can draw from to fully show off his potential. At the moment, we're just going off of photographs. I'd be intrigued to see more from him, which leads me to wonder how he'd get into the audition room, and how he could be on Amy Pascal and David Heyman's radar?
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    I suppose he’d be on their radar just by virtue of being a good looking British actor 30-35 years old. I can certainly see him getting to a first audition if he agreed. How far he’d get after is anyone’s guess.
  • dewiparrydewiparry
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    It's a job interview. Like the Red Arrows, to get on the team it's a flying audition then comes the real talk.
  • 4EverBonded4EverBonded the Ballrooms of Mars
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    Just depressing for me. Not inclined towards Turner or Dickinson. Maybe Dickinson if it came down to those two. Hauer-King, more of a maybe for me.
  • George_KaplanGeorge_Kaplan Retired
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    Denbigh wrote: »
    George_Kaplan wrote: »
    Denbigh wrote: »
    As I said, with Callum, he has that strong balance of having the modern-edge as well as the look of Ian Fleming's original creation, whereas with Harris, in terms of his look, he feels more boyish still and more of an outlier in terms of imagining him in the role.
    Is there anything in particular that, you feel, gives him that 'modern edge'. And are there any actors you feel lack it?
    Well, to put it simply, for me, ‘modern edge’ is simply the way Turner carries himself; his charisma feels authentic and decidedly of-the-moment. Also, it's about that blend that appeals to me the most. Like @007HallY said, he strikes the perfect balance of old-school movie-star quality and fresh, grounded authencity.

    I think I know what you mean. It's that earthy, blokeish quality @007HallY described, that makes him a bit more accessible, as opposed to someone who comes over more upper crust and posh.
    Denbigh wrote: »
    Anyway, on the other hand, you have someone like Matt Smith, who I've always said would be better for a period television adaptation of James Bond because he fits so much better with the old school qualities of the original 007 than he does with the modern sensibilities that we've come to expect.

    I've never been able to see Matt Smith as Bond, and I'm not sure I see the 'old school' qualities he possesses.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Variety linked to their rundown of possible candidates in their Villeneuve announcement piece; it's from last year but it's pretty exhaustive and names pretty much everyone we have plus a load more. There's some playful suggestions in there too:
    https://variety.com/lists/next-james-bond-henry-cavill-james-norton-rege-jean-page/theo-james-2/
  • MalloryMallory
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    mtm wrote: »
    Variety linked to their rundown of possible candidates in their Villeneuve announcement piece; it's from last year but it's pretty exhaustive and names pretty much everyone we have plus a load more. There's some playful suggestions in there too:
    https://variety.com/lists/next-james-bond-henry-cavill-james-norton-rege-jean-page/theo-james-2/

    Matt Berry as James Bond? That'd be fun :D

  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    Honestly just give it to Josh O'Connor or Callum Turner or Harris Dickinson and end the speculation. Now we have a director it should happen very quickly right? We've been talking about who should replace Craig since Skyfall was released.
  • 007HallY007HallY
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    Well, I presume it'll be development and writing, and then we'll get to casting. Still a bit to go.

    Out of all of those in the list (even the playful options) I'd still go Turner.
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
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    Yeah plus he's got a whole other massive film to shoot and edit first; I'm sure he'll be balancing pre-production on 007 while he does that as I think most big directors are looking ahead to their next project whilst working on their current one, but I wouldn't expect anything fast either.
  • ColonelSunColonelSun
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    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah plus he's got a whole other massive film to shoot and edit first; I'm sure he'll be balancing pre-production on 007 while he does that as I think most big directors are looking ahead to their next project whilst working on their current one, but I wouldn't expect anything fast either.

    They will push ahead with writing the script while Villeneuve is filming Dune: Messiah, so the time will be used well. David Heyman is a very fine producer, who drives projects hard, so, again, it's in good hands.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah plus he's got a whole other massive film to shoot and edit first; I'm sure he'll be balancing pre-production on 007 while he does that as I think most big directors are looking ahead to their next project whilst working on their current one, but I wouldn't expect anything fast either.

    They will push ahead with writing the script while Villeneuve is filming Dune: Messiah, so the time will be used well. David Heyman is a very fine producer, who drives projects hard, so, again, it's in good hands.

    That's if Denis isn't the writer. :-S
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited June 26 Posts: 7,001
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    Yeah plus he's got a whole other massive film to shoot and edit first; I'm sure he'll be balancing pre-production on 007 while he does that as I think most big directors are looking ahead to their next project whilst working on their current one, but I wouldn't expect anything fast either.

    They will push ahead with writing the script while Villeneuve is filming Dune: Messiah, so the time will be used well. David Heyman is a very fine producer, who drives projects hard, so, again, it's in good hands.

    My feelings exactly, @ColonelSun, old friend. This is a very happy day for us Bond fans. We should rejoice, immensely.
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    Honestly just give it to Josh O'Connor or Callum Turner or Harris Dickinson and end the speculation. Now we have a director it should happen very quickly right? We've been talking about who should replace Craig since Skyfall was released.

    Hey, I'd be happy with any of these. Good choices.
  • Mendes4LyfeMendes4Lyfe The long road ahead
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    As far as my understanding goes, there's no reason they can't cast Bond while Denis is filming Dune, right? Now they have heard his pitch, have chosen the creative direction, its not like its ultimately his decision who is cast? He doesn't need to be there.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    As far as my understanding goes, there's no reason they can't cast Bond while Denis is filming Dune, right? Now they have heard his pitch, have chosen the creative direction, its not like its ultimately his decision who is cast? He doesn't need to be there.

    They need to have the script first. The actor needs to fit the story. So, I'd say they'll write the piece when Dune is filming and then use Dune: Messiah's press roundabout to push for the big news, just after the casting is done.
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    As far as my understanding goes, there's no reason they can't cast Bond while Denis is filming Dune, right? Now they have heard his pitch, have chosen the creative direction, its not like its ultimately his decision who is cast? He doesn't need to be there.


    Denis is going to choose the actor. The question is, does he already have one in mind?
  • LudovicoLudovico
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    DEKE_RIVERS wrote: »
    Mendes4Lyfe wrote: »
    As far as my understanding goes, there's no reason they can't cast Bond while Denis is filming Dune, right? Now they have heard his pitch, have chosen the creative direction, its not like its ultimately his decision who is cast? He doesn't need to be there.


    Denis is going to choose the actor. The question is, does he already have one in mind?

    My guest is most likely. Maybe not one as much as a few he'd think could work with his vision.
  • BennyBenny Shaken not stirredAdministrator, Moderator
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    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.
  • UnivexUnivex
    edited June 26 Posts: 7,001
    Benny wrote: »
    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.

    Yes, it'll be a team effort, I'm sure. In fact, the list of British actors will most likely be provided, mainly, by David, who has, well, all the possible and imaginable contacts this side of the sea. But yes, they'll have their endless talks. How fun :)
  • ColonelSunColonelSun
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    Benny wrote: »
    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.

    Absolutely. And with Villeneuve, who has very smart casting instincts, we can expect a good choice for Bond, plus M, Moneypenny, Q, the baddies etc. etc. Top actors all want to work with him,
  • mtmmtm United Kingdom
    edited June 26 Posts: 18,767
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.

    Absolutely. And with Villeneuve, who has very smart casting instincts, we can expect a good choice for Bond, plus M, Moneypenny, Q, the baddies etc. etc. Top actors all want to work with him,

    That's a good point actually. Bond is probably a big enough draw in itself, but Villeneuve is a huge one on top of that. Would we have got Fiennes without Mendes? Possibly, but you never know, he might have been the deciding factor.
  • 007HallY007HallY
    edited June 26 Posts: 5,722
    Yes, I can definitely imagine some big, relevant actors in this one, at least in the cast around Bond (the villain in particular - hope he doesn't go for Jared Leto again though!)
  • DEKE_RIVERSDEKE_RIVERS
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    Amazon has a lot of money. It was never going to be a problem but I think Villeneuve, like Nolan, likes working with stars.
  • UnivexUnivex
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    mtm wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.

    Absolutely. And with Villeneuve, who has very smart casting instincts, we can expect a good choice for Bond, plus M, Moneypenny, Q, the baddies etc. etc. Top actors all want to work with him,

    That's a good point actually. Bond is probably a big enough draw in itself, but Villeneuve is a huge one on top of that. Would we have got Fiennes without Mendes? Possibly, but you never know, he might have been the deciding factor.

    He could very well get Charlotte Rampling for M ;) David Dastmalchian for Q. I'm now thinking he's worked with two Bond baddies, de Toro and Bardem.
  • DenbighDenbigh UK
    edited June 26 Posts: 6,049
    Univex wrote: »
    mtm wrote: »
    ColonelSun wrote: »
    Benny wrote: »
    I think, Denis, Amy and David are all going to have a huge say in who is the next actor to play James Bond.

    Absolutely. And with Villeneuve, who has very smart casting instincts, we can expect a good choice for Bond, plus M, Moneypenny, Q, the baddies etc. etc. Top actors all want to work with him,

    That's a good point actually. Bond is probably a big enough draw in itself, but Villeneuve is a huge one on top of that. Would we have got Fiennes without Mendes? Possibly, but you never know, he might have been the deciding factor.

    He could very well get Charlotte Rampling for M ;) David Dastmalchian for Q. I'm now thinking he's worked with two Bond baddies, de Toro and Bardem.
    Three Bond baddies, Christopher Walken too, and a Bond girl, Léa Seydoux :)
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